ChrisL
Diamond Member
Society and popular media in a free society caters to the will of the people.
I didn't say women "want to be raped."
What I wrote was, "women have rape fantasies."
From 1973 through 2008, nine surveys of women’s rape fantasies have been published. They show that about four in 10 women admit having them (31 to 57 percent) with a median frequency of about once a month. Actual prevalence of rape fantasies is probably higher because women may not feel comfortable admitting them.
For the latest report (Bivona, J. and J. Critelli. “The Nature of Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Analysis of Prevalence, Frequency, and Contents,” Journal of Sex Research (2009) 46:33), psychologists at North Texas University asked 355 college women: How often have you fantasized being overpowered/forced/raped by a man/woman to have oral/vaginal/anal sex against your will?
Sixty-two percent said they’d had at least one such fantasy. But responses varied depending on the terminology used. When asked about being “overpowered by a man,” 52 percent said they’d had that fantasy, the situation most typically depicted in women’s romance fiction. But when the term was “rape,” only 32 percent said they’d had the fantasy. These findings are in the same ballpark as previous reports.
Frequency of rape fantasies varied substantially. Thirty-eight percent of respondents never had them. Of those who did, 25 percent reported such fantasies less than once a year. Thirteen percent had them a few times a year, 11 percent once a month, 8 percent once a week, and 5 percent several times a week. (Twenty-one percent of the respondents said they’d been sexually assaulted in real life.)
Rape fantasies can be either erotic or aversive. In erotic fantasies, the woman thinks: “I’m being forced and I enjoy it.” In aversive fantasies, she thinks: “I’m being forced and I hate it.” Forty-five-percent of the women in the recent survey had fantasies that were entirely erotic. Nine percent were entirely aversive. And 46 percent were mixed.
What do rape fantasies mean? I believe they are no different from any other fantasies. They are neither wrong nor perverted. They imply nothing about one’s mental health or real-life sexual inclinations. They just happen, to somewhere around half of women. Rape or near-rape fantasies are surprisingly common.
I have rape fantasies. I read it was about control or something but do you know why? I feel pretty embarrassed about it and would never tell anyone (not even my boyfriend of 8 years). | The Angry Therapist
If you want to pay to see the primary source of the study, or if you are using a University database, knock yourself out. I'm not making this shit up. Sorry if facts contradict your feminist world view.
The nature of women's rape fantasies: an analysis of prevalence, frequency, and contents. - PubMed - NCBI
Do NOT put thoughts in my head, and I will not interpret what these fantasies mean.
If you say women have fantasies that "are limited to men the women find attractive," fine, I'll believe you.
But, in a civilized society, if you want to get rid of a "culture of rape," it's going to be an uphill battle when half of all women are fantasizing about it. . . .
One in twenty, several times a week?!
There you go, blaming women. Fantasies don't mean anything. Lol.
Where's the straw man?No straw man. You said yourself in your other post that things will not get better because women have "rape fantasies" in so many words. Lol. You must understand the difference between fantasy and reality.
You are telling me that I am "blaming" groups of people for the way things are.
It sounds more like you are whining or creating arguments about things being the way they are because reality may not conform to the way you think it should be. We need to investigate why things are the way they are, there are no good guys, there are no bad guys, just explanations for reality.
And you said that because women have "rape fantasies" that it would be difficult to change things. THAT is a strawman if I've ever heard one! Good grief, man! Lol.
