America makes aircraft carriers. China sells stuff…

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

No carrier last 1 day in an all out war, which is why the USA uses them to attack camels

China can now hold the U.S. Navy’s surface fleet at risk at significant ranges from the mainland. This threat to the U.S. surface fleet continues to grow. China’s anti-surface capability is founded on four developments: (1) the establishment of an increasingly capable long-range maritime surveillance capability designed to detect and track surface ships, (2) the deployment of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles and the world’s first anti-ship ballistic missile, (3) the acquisition of strike aircraft with greater range and power, and (4) the deployment of new classes of larger and quieter submarines armed with cruise missiles and torpedoes

There is a good reason that Russia does not have an active carrier, which is that they are useless in an all out conflict

No, they got rid of their carriers because they suck at building and maintaining them.

Russia dumped a useless weapons system, but then Russia does not launch air attacks on camels like the USA does.

So are you going to pretend that you are an admiral forever, or do you have plans to grow up one day

It's useless to Russia because it isn't tasked with maintaining freedom of the seas.

You're an idiot who has no understanding of military strategy.

OK genius, how would a carrier get close enough to Russia or China to launch an attack and have the jets land back on the carrier? So again carriers are great for attacking camels. The poor strategist is you who merely believes that the USA is invulnerable and that no American ship can be sunk. Wake up

Why would we use a carrier to attack Russia? However, carriers will be quite useful if China tries to attack any of its neighbors in the South China sea. You have to be terminally stupid not to see that.

In certain minor situations and at a limited level when the adversary does not have the missles that can sink carriers they can be useful....but not worth the huge costs of carriers.

Not even to mention anti-ship aka anti-aircraft technology continues to develop....we are misleading ourselves to believe China cannot sink our carriers.

The best replacement for our AirCraft -Carriers in any military engagement with China would be to develop attack resistant cruise missile bases ....aka deep underground as close to china as possible ......loaded with stealth missiles...with a huge payload....backed up by nuclear tipped missiles if needed---we cannot fight China with the methods of WWII....our military leaders seem to always want to fight a current war using tactics and methods from previous wars....our current situation with China and how we respond militarily needs to be thoroughly reviewed by those with good analytical powers and lots of knowledge regarding modern technology in regards to which China is leaving us behind....our situation is dire and we are in for a tremendous shock within the next couple of years....if China decides to go on the offensive....unless we quickly revamp our military force potential in the South China Sea.

Spare me. You've already demonstrated that you know nothing about the military.

LOL so if ufos are looping around American fighter jets as if the fighter was a turtle walking, are they scared of carriers?

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

No carrier last 1 day in an all out war, which is why the USA uses them to attack camels

China can now hold the U.S. Navy’s surface fleet at risk at significant ranges from the mainland. This threat to the U.S. surface fleet continues to grow. China’s anti-surface capability is founded on four developments: (1) the establishment of an increasingly capable long-range maritime surveillance capability designed to detect and track surface ships, (2) the deployment of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles and the world’s first anti-ship ballistic missile, (3) the acquisition of strike aircraft with greater range and power, and (4) the deployment of new classes of larger and quieter submarines armed with cruise missiles and torpedoes

There is a good reason that Russia does not have an active carrier, which is that they are useless in an all out conflict

No, they got rid of their carriers because they suck at building and maintaining them.

Russia dumped a useless weapons system, but then Russia does not launch air attacks on camels like the USA does.

So are you going to pretend that you are an admiral forever, or do you have plans to grow up one day

It's useless to Russia because it isn't tasked with maintaining freedom of the seas.

You're an idiot who has no understanding of military strategy.

OK genius, how would a carrier get close enough to Russia or China to launch an attack and have the jets land back on the carrier? So again carriers are great for attacking camels. The poor strategist is you who merely believes that the USA is invulnerable and that no American ship can be sunk. Wake up

Why would we use a carrier to attack Russia? However, carriers will be quite useful if China tries to attack any of its neighbors in the South China sea. You have to be terminally stupid not to see that.

So if a carrier can not attack the greatest enemies of the USA.

WHY HAVE THEM
Again the carrier is useless unless attacking camels and blowing your neighbors kids legs off in camel conflicts is the goal

The purpose of carriers is to protect the freedom of the seas, not to attack Russia. Carriers have been used in all the wars the USA has been involved in since WW I.

OK kid, so in your mind carriers are not meant to actually attack the enemy. If your theory is true then no carriers launched air attacks against camel bearing countries

So much for your theory

You'll have to forgive me if I have no interest in lectures on military strategy given by ignoramuses.

Again I really get a kick out of little boys like you that just wave the flag and say that the USA is invulnerable. Nothing is further from the truth and this is a fact.

 

[Richard-H]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

No carrier last 1 day in an all out war, which is why the USA uses them to attack camels

China can now hold the U.S. Navy’s surface fleet at risk at significant ranges from the mainland. This threat to the U.S. surface fleet continues to grow. China’s anti-surface capability is founded on four developments: (1) the establishment of an increasingly capable long-range maritime surveillance capability designed to detect and track surface ships, (2) the deployment of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles and the world’s first anti-ship ballistic missile, (3) the acquisition of strike aircraft with greater range and power, and (4) the deployment of new classes of larger and quieter submarines armed with cruise missiles and torpedoes

There is a good reason that Russia does not have an active carrier, which is that they are useless in an all out conflict

No, they got rid of their carriers because they suck at building and maintaining them.

Russia dumped a useless weapons system, but then Russia does not launch air attacks on camels like the USA does.

So are you going to pretend that you are an admiral forever, or do you have plans to grow up one day

It's useless to Russia because it isn't tasked with maintaining freedom of the seas.

You're an idiot who has no understanding of military strategy.

OK genius, how would a carrier get close enough to Russia or China to launch an attack and have the jets land back on the carrier? So again carriers are great for attacking camels. The poor strategist is you who merely believes that the USA is invulnerable and that no American ship can be sunk. Wake up

Why would we use a carrier to attack Russia? However, carriers will be quite useful if China tries to attack any of its neighbors in the South China sea. You have to be terminally stupid not to see that.

In certain minor situations and at a limited level when the adversary does not have the missles that can sink carriers they can be useful....but not worth the huge costs of carriers.

Not even to mention anti-ship aka anti-aircraft technology continues to develop....we are misleading ourselves to believe China cannot sink our carriers.

The best replacement for our AirCraft -Carriers in any military engagement with China would be to develop attack resistant cruise missile bases ....aka deep underground as close to china as possible ......loaded with stealth missiles...with a huge payload....backed up by nuclear tipped missiles if needed---we cannot fight China with the methods of WWII....our military leaders seem to always want to fight a current war using tactics and methods from previous wars....our current situation with China and how we respond militarily needs to be thoroughly reviewed by those with good analytical powers and lots of knowledge regarding modern technology in regards to which China is leaving us behind....our situation is dire and we are in for a tremendous shock within the next couple of years....if China decides to go on the offensive....unless we quickly revamp our military force potential in the South China Sea.

Or we could just let China have the South China Sea.

 

[Richard-H]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

Take out the GPS grid and you take out most everything not aimed with an eyeball. Furthermore in time of war the military throws a switch and the civilian GPS turns off and only military decrypts will work on the system

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Not necessarily with the 40000 new starlinks adding to the system

 

[bripat9643]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

How will Starlink backup GPS?

Because the military can take possession of private assets in time of war or national emergency. Starlink can never make a profit due to the costs of building and launching satellites. Every user would need to pay thousands of dollars a month and since there are more affordable options this will not happen, rather easy to see if you crunch numbers. Thus Starlink is not what it seems. LOL probably many of the supposed Starlink units are actually stealth military sats that the enemy supposedly can't see.

Starlink can never make a profit due to the costs of building and launching satellites.

That's pure idiocy. Starlink will generate huge profits for Elon Musk. potentially every person in the world can become a customer. At least several hundred million will. At $100/month, that means hundreds of billions in revenue every year, moron.


You said about half a dozen things that are clearly absurd.

Starlink units are actually stealth military sats

What evidence is there that Starlink satellite are military? What evidence is there that they can perform the GPS function?

Short answer: none.

Once again, you are talking out your ass about things you know nothing about.

 

[Rigby5]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

How will Starlink backup GPS?

Because the military can take possession of private assets in time of war or national emergency. Starlink can never make a profit due to the costs of building and launching satellites. Every user would need to pay thousands of dollars a month and since there are more affordable options this will not happen, rather easy to see if you crunch numbers. Thus Starlink is not what it seems. LOL probably many of the supposed Starlink units are actually stealth military sats that the enemy supposedly can't see.

Star link did not cost very much to launch at all.
The launch costs were absorbed by regular test flights, so actually cost almost nothing.
And while income is low at first, ($500 connect fee and $100/month rental), it could last 50 years or more, with hundreds of millions of customers world wide, so would result in massive profits over time.

But both GPS and Starlink have no military use in any large scale war.
Neither is secure, reliable, or possible to at all protect.
A high energy EMF pulse easily burns them up in space, but they can also be easily be spoofed or corrupted as well.
All someone would even have to do is launch a load of ball bearings into space, at 90 degrees to the geo-sync orbits. Only take a couple of days to wipe the skies clear of any satellites at all.
No rational person counts on satellite survivability.
They are only useful against primitive camel economies.

 

[bripat9643]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

Take out the GPS grid and you take out most everything not aimed with an eyeball. Furthermore in time of war the military throws a switch and the civilian GPS turns off and only military decrypts will work on the system

Starlink does transit GPS signals, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Any military asset can be destroyed. She would get rid of all our radar installations?

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

How will Starlink backup GPS?

Because the military can take possession of private assets in time of war or national emergency. Starlink can never make a profit due to the costs of building and launching satellites. Every user would need to pay thousands of dollars a month and since there are more affordable options this will not happen, rather easy to see if you crunch numbers. Thus Starlink is not what it seems. LOL probably many of the supposed Starlink units are actually stealth military sats that the enemy supposedly can't see.

Starlink can never make a profit due to the costs of building and launching satellites.

That's pure idiocy. Starlink will generate huge profits for Elon Musk. potentially every person in the world can become a customer. At least several hundred million will. At $100/month, that means hundreds of billions in revenue every year, moron.


You said about half a dozen things that are clearly absurd.

Starlink units are actually stealth military sats

What evidence is there that Starlink satellite are military? What evidence is there that they can perform the GPS function?

Short answer: none.

Once again, you are talking out your ass about things you know nothing about.

Then sell your trailer and buy starlink

I can not buy starlink.

Why?

The great news however is that Starlink will be available to the aborigine's in the outback. Perhaps they will pay with grubs

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Any military asset can be destroyed. She would get rid of all our radar installations?

Actually many radar sites have been closed as they were archaic and not even worth upgrading

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

Take out the GPS grid and you take out most everything not aimed with an eyeball. Furthermore in time of war the military throws a switch and the civilian GPS turns off and only military decrypts will work on the system

Starlink does transit GPS signals, moron.

Well then thanks for agreeing with me professor

 

[bripat9643]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Any military asset can be destroyed. She would get rid of all our radar installations?

Actually many radar sites have been closed as they were archaic and not even worth upgrading

ROFL! yeah, and many planes have been sent to the airplane graveyard. What's your point?

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Any military asset can be destroyed. She would get rid of all our radar installations?

Actually many radar sites have been closed as they were archaic and not even worth upgrading

ROFL! yeah, and many planes have been sent to the airplane graveyard. What's your point?

There are very few planes in the current military. The current buzz term is stealth jets, but for some reason the Air Force just bought a bunch of updated old F15's

 

[bripat9643]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Any military asset can be destroyed. She would get rid of all our radar installations?

Actually many radar sites have been closed as they were archaic and not even worth upgrading

ROFL! yeah, and many planes have been sent to the airplane graveyard. What's your point?

There are very few planes in the current military. The current buzz term is stealth jets, but for some reason the Air Force just bought a bunch of updated old F15's

"There are very few planes in the current military."

 

[InspectorDetector]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

US special ops investing in new technology as warfare evolves

The U.S. Special Operations Command is investing in new technology as warfare evolves, SOCOM commander Gen. Richard Clarke said earlier this week.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Dusty]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Any military asset can be destroyed. She would get rid of all our radar installations?

Actually many radar sites have been closed as they were archaic and not even worth upgrading

ROFL! yeah, and many planes have been sent to the airplane graveyard. What's your point?

There are very few planes in the current military. The current buzz term is stealth jets, but for some reason the Air Force just bought a bunch of updated old F15's

"There are very few planes in the current military."

The little tiger apparently does not even differentiate a plane from a jet.

Time for your afternoon nappy kid

 

[bripat9643]

So true and they are kicking our ass in just about every economic endeavor. We are watching the USA Empire slowly die before our eyes, thanks to our rapacious oligarchs and the politicians they own. Not necessarily a bad thing. A warlike empire needs termination.

Excellent column by Fred Reed.
A Dolorous Imbalance


Now R supporters commence Xiden comments and D supporters Putin/Trump are lovers comments, just like little naughty second graders.

Prototype of China’s 385 mph maglev train

Pingtang Bridge, recently opened. Well over a thousand feet high



“An almost entirely automated port in China, during unload of a container ship. “

They also have 3 aircraft carriers under construction and two completed and in service.

Their first aircraft carrier has problems. If you don't at first succeed, try and try, again. A long journey begins with the first step.

The main problem with it is the fact that using the Ski ramp for take off means they can carry no appreciable weapons load and even require a recuded fuel load. As a result, their fighters are almost useless.

It is not their 'fighters' we have to worry about....it is China's massive arsenal of missles....capable of destroying our Aircraft Carriers.

Carrier Woes: The Navy's fighters can't reach China

The biggest threat to America's Navy in the 21st century is the short fuel range of its fighters compared to hypersonic anti-ship weapons.

www.sandboxx.us

I haven't seen a demonstration that shows that China can knockout our aircraft carriers with missiles. Carrier groups have massive defenses against missile attacks.

I am reminded of General Billy Mitchell a early advocate of air power and when he demonstrated a Airplane could sink a Battleship he became very unpopular with the big boys and eventually he was courtmartialed.

Now today we see something very similar....those who cling to the importance of aircraft carriers even though it is known they are very vulnurable to missle attacks.

Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missiles are going hypersonic now. They are faster and faster. You shoot 20 of them and if only 1 gets through that at least slows down or stops the carrier from using their aircraft. In an all out war, they out mass produce us. So we better have a huge technology advantage. Perhaps those UFO's the military has been showing recently are our so called secret projects. Then they will be used to win the day before the war goes nuclear.

There is no way to shoot down a hypersonic sea skimming missile in a surprise attack as the weapons that will do the shooting are not kept loaded and unlocked, which is what they must be to shoot at a missile coming in at 1.7 miles per second

Where is the guarantee anything moving that fast can hit the broad side of a barn? That's the key point where the Chinese and Russian suck!

Since the offensive weapons systems are not loaded and unlocked the USA is defenseless against a surprise attack against a weapon traveling 2.7 miles per second

OMG, STFU! In the age of satellites, there is no such thing as a surprise attack, dumbass!

As a former military man (ret) and coming from a LONG line of military men, I can say to you that you know better than that (or you should).

For every NRO Sat Station In space, both the Russians and the ChiCom have the capability to disable them from the ground - exactly as we can with theirs. It's the 21st century, Admiral.

Never a truer sentiment was expressed that "For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction ".

Take for example our "stealth" fighters. Look at the Chinese opposite. Looks EXACTLY like ours. Helps prevent MADD.....

Which is why Elon Musk Starlink space internet system will double as backup military GPS satellites to keep up the GPS grid, with it's over 40,000 planned orbiters they would be very difficult to disable all of them before an attack.

GPS can't be used in war.
Too easily spoofed.

To be reliable, you need to fall back on gyroscopic inertial guidance.
The military is also working on and may have finished a simple astronomical guidance system.
Humans only see stars at nigh, but electronics can see them in the day as well as at night.

The U.S. has tens of thousands of munitions that rely on GPS, moron.

GPS is based on Satellites. Satellites are sitting ducks in time of war.

Any military asset can be destroyed. She would get rid of all our radar installations?

Actually many radar sites have been closed as they were archaic and not even worth upgrading

ROFL! yeah, and many planes have been sent to the airplane graveyard. What's your point?

There are very few planes in the current military. The current buzz term is stealth jets, but for some reason the Air Force just bought a bunch of updated old F15's

"There are very few planes in the current military."

The little tiger apparently does not even differentiate a plane from a jet.

Time for your afternoon nappy kid

A jet is a plane, moron.

 

[22lcidw]

Point of the article seems to be that China does business, the US does empire and the empire is fading fast.
Reed has done a number of articles regarding Chinese advances.

The job of the US Navy is to keep the sea lanes open and not build an Empire.

The job of the U.S. Navy SHOULD HAVE BEEN to keep sea lanes open, but HAS BEEN to build an empire.

Now you get into the conversation of being a world policeman or minding our own business. World stability... a negative or positive depending on what we do. Spending trillions on each incursion though with soldiers killed and worse is cause enough to have a good talk by our leaders and powers that be on the subject.