America is winning the war with Iran

[Cellblock2429]

I doubt that Iran will use bomb even against Israel, if Israel cease hostilities against Iran and its allies. You know, possibility of a nuclear exchange (even with a minor nuclear power) might be pretty pushing for peace talks and peace keeping.

/------/ You're either incredibly naive or in complete denial.

 

[Zavulon]

I suppose the mullahs can just take the money out of their Swiss bank accounts

Because putin does not take a check

BTW: although libs are praying to their woke graven image that it will, I dont foresee the war lasting for years

Actually Putin prefers cheques and obligations. Anyway, this war is bringing Russia a lot of money, and Russia is interested in keeping it this way. Which means possibility of investing in the war.
What is more important, I doubt that the mullahs keep a lot of roubles in Swiss banks.

 

[Zavulon]

/------/ You're either incredibly naive or in complete denial.

You are also invited in the thread:

Thread 'Is it doublethink or non-binary think?'

Yesterday at 2:27 AM

George Orwell in his 1984 described "doublethink" as ability to change one's mind between two mutually contradictory statements by using some mental tricks and self-control. Victor Pelevin described "non-binary think" as a skill to ignore even most obvious contradictions at all.

So, there are some guys who more or less simultaneously believe (or just say so) in two contradictory statements:
1) Iranian society is so divided, weak and undetermined, that it will collapse even because of extended blockade and some economic problems.
2) Iranian society is so united, determined and unselfish...

• Zavulon
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[Mac-7]

I doubt that Iran will use bomb even against Israel, if Israel cease hostilities against Iran and its allies. You know, possibility of a nuclear exchange (even with a minor nuclear power) might be pretty pushing for peace talks and peace keeping.

Preventing Iran from having the bomb is the only only way to prevent a nuclear war

 

[Zavulon]

I suppose the mullahs can just take the money out of their Swiss bank accounts

Because putin does not take a check

BTW: although libs are praying to their woke graven image that it will, I dont foresee the war lasting for years

Feel free to join the thread:

Thread 'Is it doublethink or non-binary think?'

Yesterday at 2:27 AM

George Orwell in his 1984 described "doublethink" as ability to change one's mind between two mutually contradictory statements by using some mental tricks and self-control. Victor Pelevin described "non-binary think" as a skill to ignore even most obvious contradictions at all.

So, there are some guys who more or less simultaneously believe (or just say so) in two contradictory statements:
1) Iranian society is so divided, weak and undetermined, that it will collapse even because of extended blockade and some economic problems.
2) Iranian society is so united, determined and unselfish...

• Zavulon
• Replies: 25
• Forum: Iran

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[Zavulon]

Preventing Iran from having the bomb is the only only way to prevent a nuclear war

How so? If deterrence worked with Russia, China, America, Britain, France, why it shouldn't work with Iran?

 

[Cellblock2429]

How so? If deterrence worked with Russia, China, America, Britain, France, why it shouldn't work with Iran?

/---/ Because the theocracy running the country is hell-bent on destroying any country that doesn't go along with their beliefs. Shouting "Death to America! Death to Israel!" everyday is a good hint.

 

[Zavulon]

I suppose the mullahs can just take the money out of their Swiss bank accounts

Because putin does not take a check

In fact, Iran sell Russia their UAVs type "Shahed"/"Geran". It's approximate price is 1.5 million roubles (about $20K). Russia often launches 1 thousand of them a day (or, more commonly, a night).
So, one night salvo of those UAVs worth enough to feed at least 1.5 million of Iranian conscripts a day. If Iran is buying MREs, of course, not grain, wheat, corn and meat.

 

[Zavulon]

/---/ Because the theocracy running the country is hell-bent on destroying any country that doesn't go along with their beliefs. Shouting "Death to America! Death to Israel!" everyday is a good hint.

Hey, Russians (and not only them) are also love to sing songs about elimination of America.



So what?
And given that Iran has more allies than American regime - they are not that bad in liaison making.

 

[Moonglow]

/------/ You're either incredibly naive or in complete denial.

We know you and many MAGATs have delusions of nuclear weapons that do not exist. I bet you saw the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. These lie never gets old....Coming from a faithful Chauvinist.

 

[Mac-7]

How so? If deterrence worked with Russia, China, America, Britain, France, why it shouldn't work with Iran?

Because the Iranians radicals are a different animal

They want to die a fiery death to bring back the 12th Imam and collect their 72 virgins

I believe in Armageddon and the 2nd Coming of Jesus the Messiah, but on God’s timetable, not mine

 

[Mac-7]

In fact, Iran sell Russia their UAVs type "Shahed"/"Geran". It's approximate price is 1.5 million roubles (about $20K). Russia often launches 1 thousand of them a day (or, more commonly, a night).
So, one night salvo of those UAVs worth enough to feed at least 1.5 million of Iranian conscripts a day. If Iran is buying MREs, of course, not grain, wheat, corn and meat.

I am not say we will

But the US military can cut off trade between russia and iran

And we should

 

[Cellblock2429]

We know you and many MAGATs have delusions of nuclear weapons that do not exist. I bet you saw the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. These lie never gets old....Coming from a faithful Chauvinist.

;/-----/ "nuclear weapons that do not exist."
Thanks to President Trump and the Israelis, there are no nukes in Iran.

 

[toomuchtime_]

;/-----/ "nuclear weapons that do not exist."
Thanks to President Trump and the Israelis, there are no nukes in Iran.

And we are over there to make sure there aren't any in the future. You apparently would like to wait until there are nuclear weapons pointed at our cities and those of our allies before taking action.

 

[Zavulon]

Because the Iranians radicals are a different animal

We all are more or less the same. Especially if we are talking about some kind of experts.

They want to die a fiery death to bring back the 12th Imam and collect their 72 virgins

They are politicians. They do lead their country throw the sanctions and two wars. Idealistic guys, including religious fanatics don't survive on this job. And, after all, if you believe that Iranians are ready to commit national-wide suicide for no practical reason, why do you think, that this ridiculous half-blockade of yours can put them on the knees?

I believe in Armageddon and the 2nd Coming of Jesus the Messiah, but on God’s timetable, not mine

As far as I know, Christianity promote the thing, called "Freedom of will". Your (and everyones) actions could make it closer or further.

There are some guys in Russian headquarters that would prefer to kill 90% of the Earth population to prevent Israel of building the Third Temple and initiating inviting False Messiah, aka anti-christ. Do you believe that building of the Third Temple should be prevented by any (literally any) mean?

 

[Zavulon]

I am not say we will

But the US military can cut off trade between russia and iran

No, you can't. Definitely not without a nuclear war.

 

[Cellblock2429]

And we are over there to make sure there aren't any in the future. You apparently would like to wait until there are nuclear weapons pointed at our cities and those of our allies before taking action.

/-------/ I know why we are there, and I approve. I don't want to wait for anything. Wipe them out.

 

[toomuchtime_]

/-------/ I know why we are there, and I approve. I don't want to wait for anything. Wipe them out.

Wipe who out? There are 90 million people in Iran and there is no democracy so we have no idea how many support the regime. We can bring down the regime without having to wipe them all out.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Wipe who out? There are 90 million people in Iran and there is no democracy so we have no idea how many support the regime. We can bring down the regime without having to wipe them all out.

/—-/ You’ve got me wrong. We’re on the same side. Post #174 was off base.

 

[toomuchtime_]

/—-/ You’ve got me wrong. We’re on the same side. Post #174 was off base.

Sorry, my mistake.