America is ‘flying blind’ to the coronavirus mutations

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Sounds like you're just the guy to explain how this thing works. Now we'll find out what the fuck you're talking about.

It's in the quotes

If you want play wordsmith you should reread what was said

What you did most people would call "moving the goal posts". IDK why you were trying to do that.

But it's so obvious i have to assume you need to sober up and come back to the internet tomorrow

 

[Briss]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

You understand only academia are the arbiters of truth, correct?

Not the WHO, the CDC, and CERTAINLY not the manufacturers of drugs in a for profit medical system you fucking dolt. Do you hear yourself?

You took gen eds exactly to avoid having to defer to authorties like that. We have the internet, you don't even have to go to a library or university. All the information you need is jsut a few keystrokes away.

Yes i can read they are not conventional vaccines.

convention - Google Search

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

 

[BertramN]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



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[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



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yea let's just pump money into big pharma for vaccines against colds we don't need. great idea

idiot

and you fucking retards wonder why the rich win in this country. Most of you are useless ***** that's why.

 

[Briss]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

You understand only academia are the arbiters of truth, correct?

Not the WHO, the CDC, and CERTAINLY not the manufacturers of drugs in a for profit medical system you fucking dolt. Do you hear yourself?

You took gen eds exactly to avoid having to defer to authorties like that. We have the internet, you don't even have to go to a library or university. All the information you need is jsut a few keystrokes away.

Yes i can read they are not conventional vaccines.

convention - Google Search

Almost sounds like you're claiming that it prevents infection and transmission, but that you know better than to come right out and say it because you know it's not true. And as much as you'd like to dance your way around that fact, I don't think I'm going to let you do that.

So, does the new and improved "vaccine" prevent infection and transmission? I'd like to know your stand on that, if you don't mind . . . and even if you do.

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

 

[Briss]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

 

[tigerred59]

Its gonna years for all of us to get beyond this pandemic.....and the sooner we all get use to it the better. Until these rednecks get the memo and mask up, this shit is never going away. And them 40 thousand murderers that showed up in DC and weeks later, the UK, the SAF virus appears??????all these mutations stemmed from that insurgence

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

 

[BertramN]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



.

yea let's just pump money into big pharma for vaccines against colds we don't need. great idea

idiot

and you fucking retards wonder why the rich win in this country. Most of you are useless ***** that's why.

As another of trump's devoted Nazis, dedicated to defending his 30,000+ lies, it is best if you do everything in your power to contract the most recent variant of COVID-19. You can then prove to the world you are suffering from nothing more than a common cold.

You will be a hero to all other trump's Nazis. That is, if you survive that particular "cold".


.

 

[Desperado]

America currently has so little of the genetic sequencing needed to detect new variants of the coronavirus — like the ones first identified in Great Britain and South Africa — that such mutations are likely proliferating quickly, undetected, experts said.

The lack of widespread genetic sequencing means the window is closing to find and slow the spread of variants such as the one first spotted in Britain, which appears to be much more transmissible, and those initially detected in Brazil and South Africa.

Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel.

Why America is ‘flying blind’ to the coronavirus mutations racing across the globe

So is Biden going to have a EO that eliminates calling the new variants the British and South African strains like he did for the Chinese Virus?

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

You understand only academia are the arbiters of truth, correct?

Not the WHO, the CDC, and CERTAINLY not the manufacturers of drugs in a for profit medical system you fucking dolt. Do you hear yourself?

You took gen eds exactly to avoid having to defer to authorties like that. We have the internet, you don't even have to go to a library or university. All the information you need is jsut a few keystrokes away.

Yes i can read they are not conventional vaccines.

convention - Google Search

Almost sounds like you're claiming that it prevents infection and transmission, but that you know better than to come right out and say it because then this new "vaccine" is no different from . . .

I'm saying that the only sources that matter are studies that can pass peer review in this context. Most of what teh WHO, CDC, and big pharma says does not line up with the academic literature on the topics that can pass peer review.

Masks as an obvious example have never worked. The reasons Asians do it is because htey don't believe in enlightenment principles. Historically in the west we don't use masks because as far as we can prove they do not work, which is why the CDC is now reccomending more layers lol. That has not changed in 2020, you cannot do proper mask studies in 2020 under quarantine.

Soft quarantines against something like again totally untested. Places with no lock downs getting similar results because the quarantines are not very strict and borders are open. Pointless security theater if they aren't strict enough, as predicted by many. Although there wasn't any real data on it because no one else was stupid enough to think this would work when there is so much asymptomatic spread.

Literature on cold vaccines again, stay the fuck away from that.

I'm saying you're not properly vetting your sources and need to rethink your strategy for getting information in the pandemic.

Any study conducted on these topics in 2020 outside the vaccine trials are inherently suspect because you would need state approval to run any proper study under quarantine. And the states that aren't quarantining quite frankly don't have many universities and the people in them probably don't care anyway.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



.

yea let's just pump money into big pharma for vaccines against colds we don't need. great idea

idiot

and you fucking retards wonder why the rich win in this country. Most of you are useless ***** that's why.

As another of trump's devoted Nazis, dedicated to defending his 30,000+ lies, it is best if you do everything in your power to contract the most recent variant of COVID-19. You can then prove to the world you are suffering from nothing more than a common cold.

You will be a hero to all other trump's Nazis. That is, if you survive that particular "cold".


.

I'm an independent

Trump loved big pharma

Just like the left apparently/

Retard, look at how low you will go out of fear of a cold.

Fucking wanna be socialists are so pathetic. Next you're going to cheer on GME short squeezes as a fucking borderline commie. lol I think it's funny but i'm also not against speculative markets. I'm a liberal not a progressive.

 

[Briss]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

You know this isn't about the 100%. It's about the "vaccine" not preventing infection and transmission.

 

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No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.