CDZ America first, or another country?

[Indofred]

It strikes me, a lot of people put other countries' interests before those their home country.
Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

 

[Wyatt earp]

No such thing as free health care.

 

[Indofred]

No such thing as free health care.

Perhaps - but should tax dollars be sent to other countries when they could be spent looking after Americans?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

It strikes me, a lot of people put other countries' interests before those their home country.
Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

US is the exception to what works well in other countries. As the world's glutton nation (4% of the population, use 25% of the planet's resources) putting other countries' needs sometimes ahead of our own is how you keep the peace in Dodge.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No such thing as free health care.

Indeed, there is no free lunch.

However, we have the most expensive convoluted system in the world that puts us down the ladder in health compared to countries who spend less.

"We are already paying for universal health care. We just are not getting it." ~ Dennis Kucinich.

 

[GHook93]

It strikes me, a lot of people put other countries' interests before those their home country.
Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

Dual citizenship should end. Americans use to be the most patriotic people on the planet that has sure changed.

Foreign aid makes up a 1/2 of a percent of the budget, so it is not breaking us. I know you comment is on Israel, but you ignore the fact we give more money to Muslim countries.

First thing we should do is revoke citizenship to all Muslims and ship them out that would solve a ton of out problems.

 

[Desperado]

No such thing as free health care.

Perhaps - but should tax dollars be sent to other countries when they could be spent looking after Americans?

A lot of those are sent as charitable contributions, we should at least eliminate the Tax Deduction on those contributions.

 

[TheOldSchool]

It strikes me, a lot of people put other countries' interests before those their home country.
Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

Sure we can start by stopping the hundreds of millions we give to Indonesia every year.

 

[Bobby1250]

It strikes me, a lot of people put other countries' interests before those their home country.
Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

Yes, to all of the above.

 

[Bobby1250]

Dual citizenship should end. Americans use to be the most patriotic people on the planet that has sure changed.

Foreign aid makes up a 1/2 of a percent of the budget, so it is not breaking us. I know you comment is on Israel, but you ignore the fact we give more money to Muslim countries.

First thing we should do is revoke citizenship to all Muslims and ship them out that would solve a ton of out problems.

Anti-Semite much?

No, we do not give more money to Islamic countries. Israel gets the lions share of our foreign aid. More than all the aid to the Islamic countries put together.

Muslims have nothing against America and Americans. It is the Zionists we should revoke the citizenship of.

 

[Josf]

When the criminals take over government they call bribes names that fool people into thinking bribes are not bribes; such as "foreign aid."

Bribing criminals in Israel, so that criminals called Zionists will follow criminal orders, is called "foreign aid" for one example.

Another example is bribing Osama Bin Ladin, and other so called "terrorists," to follow criminal orders is another example, and the predictable results are most likely the goal.

If the criminals take over a geographical area, like the Zionists, the Taliban/Al Qaeda (whatever), Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, you name it, even Saddam Hussein; said criminals stop following criminal orders and start issuing their own criminal orders.

Bribe Saddam Hussein to steal Iraq Oil and sell Iraq Oil based upon the fraudulent Federal Reserve Note World Reserve Currency unit, and Saddam Hussein accept the bribe (so called "foreign aid") along with some weapons of mass destruction in the form of poisonous gas to secure a criminal overthrow of the existing government, and soon enough, as if on a schedule, said puppet receiving "foreign aid" will "turn" and begin a competitive criminal operation, and start selling oil to China, or Russia, based upon something other than World Reserve Currency; which then inspires a whole lot more investment in war of aggression for profit; which is a BOOMING industry that pays very well.

"Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?"

When the author of the topic uses the word America does the author of the topic actually mean a legal fiction called the United States? If so, then the question is entirely different compared to the author of the topic using the word America to mean all the good people in America.

Like this:

Should the legal fiction called United States stop dual citizenship, and should the legal fiction called United States stop all donations to any and all other countries until the legal fiction called United States no longer invests in people living on the streets, all (who want it) have free (charitable) healthcare, and (all who want) a job?

That is a whole different question than the alternative meaning as such:

"Should all the good people in America stop dual citizenship, and should all the good people in America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

If you stop paying the extortion fee to the criminals who took over government then by which method can said criminals afford to give anything to anyone?

 

[Bobby1250]

Foreign Aid is given to other countries to help develop them. Foreign Aid is given to Israel; so they do not detonate any of the several dozen nuclear weapons they have smuggled into our cities.
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Each and every country in the world is on the hook to Israel paying the govt of Israel nuclear blackmail.

 

[MisterBeale]

It strikes me, a lot of people put other countries' interests before those their home country.
Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

Dual citizenship should end. Americans use to be the most patriotic people on the planet that has sure changed.

Foreign aid makes up a 1/2 of a percent of the budget, so it is not breaking us. I know you comment is on Israel, but you ignore the fact we give more money to Muslim countries.

First thing we should do is revoke citizenship to all Muslims and ship them out that would solve a ton of out problems.

I agree, this duel citizenship shit has got to end. Israeli-American scum that place Israel's interests ahead of America's have got to be kicked out of our government and our media. They have our population brainwashed beyond all reckoning.


The 1940 Nationality Act


Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality by...voting in a political election in a foreign state."


This law was tested many times. In 1958, for instance, an American citizen named Perez voted in a Mexican election. The case went to the Supreme Court, where the majority opinion held that Perez must lose his American nationality. The court said Congress could provide for expatriation as a reasonable way of preventing embarrassment to the United States in its foreign relations.


But then something very odd happened.


In 1967 an American Jew, Beys Afroyim received an exemption that set a precedent exclusively for American Jews. Afroyim, born in Poland in 1895, emigrated to America in 1912, and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1926. In 1950, aged 55, he emigrated to Israel and became an Israeli citizen. In 1951 Afroyim voted in an Israeli Knesset election and in five political elections that followed. So, by all standards he lost his American citizenship -- right? Wrong.


After living in Israel for a decade, Afroyim wished to return to New York. In 1960, he asked the U.S. Consulate in Haifa for an American passport. The Department of State refused the application, invoking section 401 (e) of the Nationality Act -- the same ruling that had stripped the American citizen named Perez of his U.S. citizenship.


Attorneys acting for Afroyim took his case to a Washington, DC District Court, which upheld the law. Then his attorneys appealed to the Court of Appeals. This court also upheld the law. The attorneys for Afroyim then moved the case on to the Supreme Court. Here, with Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Lyndon Johnson's former attorney and one of the most powerful Jewish Americans, casting the swing vote, the court voted five to four in favor of Afroyim. The court held that the U.S. government had no right to "rob" Afroyim of his American citizenship!


The court, reversing its previous judgment as regards the Mexican American, ruled that Afroyim had not shown "intent" to lose citizenship by voting in Israeli elections. Huh?


While Washington claims it has a "good neighbor" policy with Mexico, the U.S. does not permit Mexicans to hold dual nationality. The US makes them become either U.S. or Mexican -- you can't be both. But the U.S., in its special relationship with Israel, has become very sympathetic to allowing Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S. citizens not only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US government positions as well! No other country holds this special exception to our laws of citizenship.

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A few classic examples can be cited here.

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Jonathan Jay Pollard

was an American-Israeli citizen who worked for the US government. He is well known because he stole more secrets from the U.S. than has any other spy in American history. During his interrogation Pollard said he felt compelled to put the "interests of my state" ahead of his own. Although as a U.S. Navy counter-intelligence specialist he had a top-secret security clearance, by "my state" he meant the state of Israel.

Literally tens of thousands of Americans holding U.S. passports admit they feel a primary allegiance to the state of Israel. In many instances, these Americans vote in Israeli elections, wear Israeli uniforms and fight in Israeli wars. Many are actively engaged both in the confiscation of Palestinian lands and in the Israeli political system. Three examples come to mind:

One is Rabbi Meir Kahane, who founded the militant Jewish Defense League in the U.S. in the 1960s, then emigrated to Israel where, eventually, he was elected to the Knesset. Until he was shot and killed at one of his U.S. fund-raising rallies in 1990, the Brooklyn-born rabbi shuttled between Tel Aviv and New York, where he recruited militant American Jews for his activities in Israel against Palestinians. He claimed to be a "dual citizen" of America and Israel.

Another Jewish American, James Mahon from Alexandria, Virginia, reportedly was on a secret mission to kill PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat when he was shot in 1980 by an unknown assailant. When he was shot, Mahon held an American M-16 in his hand and a U.S. passport in his pocket.

Then there was Alan Harry Goodman, an American Jew who left his home in Baltimore, Maryland, flew to Israel and served in the Israeli army. Then, on April 11, 1982, armed with an Uzi submachine gun, he walked, alone, to Al-Aqsa, Jerusalem's most holy Islamic shrine, where he opened fire, killing two Palestinians and wounding others. Both the U.S. and Israeli governments played down the incident, as did the media.

Most recently, US Navy Petty Officer, Ariel J. Weinmann, while serving at or near Bahrain, Mexico, and Austria, "with intent or reason to believe it would be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation (Israel), [attempted] to communicate, deliver or transmit classified CONFIDENTIAL and SECRET information relating to the national defense, to a representative, officer, agent or employee of a foreign government." Weinmann was apprehended on March 26 after being listed as "a deserter by his command," according to the US Navy. The information he gathered was supplied to Israel.

Ben-Ami Kadish, a Connecticut-born U.S. dual citizen who worked in New Jersey was arrested and charged with giving top secret nuclear information and details about the US Patriot Missile to an Israeli agent -- the same agent involved with the Jay Pollard case. The espionage charges reportedly stem from acts committed in the 1980s. These activities, like the ones with convicted spy Pollard, were immediately denied by Israel (Pollard pleaded guilty in 1986). It is further reported that Israeli officials instructed Kadish to lie to US investigators. Kadish was scheduled to be arraigned on April 22, 2008 at U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

In 2009 it was revealed that the NSA had secretly taped conversations of Congresswomen Jane Harman [pictured above on the right with Israeli Knesset Speaker, Dalia Itzik] negotiating with two AIPAC spies accused of giving sensitive information about US military activities to the Israeli government. In the taped conversation she is being asked to dismiss their espionage charges in return for large politiacl contributions and (are you ready) a chairmanship of the US Intelligence Committee! One has to assume that they thought they could actually "arrange" for this to happen. This information was secretly revealed by the NSA to Nancy Polosi prior to the selection of the committee chairman and was a factor (let's hope, anyway) in Harmon's failure to obtain this highly sensitive position. After all was said and done, however, the case against the two Israeli lobbyists was dismissed -- against the insistance of the FBI. No satisfactory reason has been given for this.

Unfortunately, such an act of treason remains unchallenged and Jane Harman remains at her congressional job and enjoys being the third wealthiest member of Congress. Only in America!
Dual Citizenship -- Loyal to Whom


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And folks thought that shit in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was just conspiracy nonsense.

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[GHook93]

Dual citizenship should end. Americans use to be the most patriotic people on the planet that has sure changed.

Foreign aid makes up a 1/2 of a percent of the budget, so it is not breaking us. I know you comment is on Israel, but you ignore the fact we give more money to Muslim countries.

First thing we should do is revoke citizenship to all Muslims and ship them out that would solve a ton of out problems.

Anti-Semite much?

No, we do not give more money to Islamic countries. Israel gets the lions share of our foreign aid. More than all the aid to the Islamic countries put together.

Muslims have nothing against America and Americans. It is the Zionists we should revoke the citizenship of.

Another guy that doesn't know the meaning of anti-semitism.

Do you homework the amount of money we give to the aggregate Muslim countries trumps Israel.

 

[GHook93]

Foreign Aid is given to other countries to help develop them. Foreign Aid is given to Israel; so they do not detonate any of the several dozen nuclear weapons they have smuggled into our cities.
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Each and every country in the world is on the hook to Israel paying the govt of Israel nuclear blackmail.

Lol that is a rich one. We provide them military aid to which they spend on our weapons. No one other than us provides them aid.

And they don't have any nuclear weapons on our shores. That is so illogical you are so blinded by anti-semitism that you are not worth debating with.

 

[Bobby1250]

Foreign Aid is given to other countries to help develop them. Foreign Aid is given to Israel; so they do not detonate any of the several dozen nuclear weapons they have smuggled into our cities.
'
Each and every country in the world is on the hook to Israel paying the govt of Israel nuclear blackmail.

Lol that is a rich one. We provide them military aid to which they spend on our weapons. No one other than us provides them aid.

And they don't have any nuclear weapons on our shores. That is so illogical you are so blinded by anti-semitism that you are not worth debating with.

I am well aware of the tactics of you, my Zionist brethren, use to quiet anyone who attempts to expose any of your subversive acts.

If the person is a Gentile, you cry, "You're anti-semitic" which is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide your actions.

But, if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, you resort to other tactics.

• • First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.
  • If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.
  • If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient scandal you are adept at fabricating scandal against the person or persons.
  • If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to physical attacks.

But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.


Your beloved, cultural marxist, Edomite/Khazars, who call themselves "Jews" tm, who pretend to be Semites and the descendants of the Biblical Hebrews for political and financial gain, have smuggled nukes into every capital city of every state in America,

Now put that into your crack pipe and smoke it.

 

[Josf]

Example of item 3: Self Hating Jew.

 

[I amso IR]

Should America desire to assist other nations, then does it not make sense to care for America first?

If both activities can be accomplished at the same time, do both.

Were America to become unable to do both, charity then begins at home.

 

[Unkotare]

No such thing as free health care.

Perhaps - but should tax dollars be sent to other countries when they could be spent looking after Americans?

You seem confused. The US gives aid to other countries to advance our own interests.

 

[Unkotare]

It strikes me, a lot of people put other countries' interests before those their home country.
Should America stop dual citizenship, and should America stop all donations to any and all other countries until Americans no longer live on the streets, all have free healthcare, and a job?

Dual citizenship should end. Americans use to be the most patriotic people on the planet....

Dual citizenship does not indicate an absence of patriotism.