All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Self-Determination
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I'm betting the "Syriangirl" accusation that the Resistance Axis (Axis Forces) played a role is a Red Herring. The SAM used is too sophisticated to be in the hands the New Age assymetric Axis Forces.

Normally Syriangirl is accurate in her reporting. Israel cannot play the victim card here like it usually does. Allegedly, Israel has been attacking Iranian oil tankers, Iranian facilities in Syria, and the power supply to Iran's nuclear facility.

The distence traveled does seem excessive for a SAM.

(COMMENT)

I believe that the C-RAM in the hands of the Israelis have provided them with a Point of Origin (POO). I think the Israeli Air Defense Command (ADC) multilayered surveillance system, has a theory that fits much better than you're describing...

I don't think that ADC has been overwhelmed.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Natural Citizen]

One thing is certain, someone just exposed a rather dangerous weakness.

I'm not sure what kind of missile that was. But it's a rather long drive, so....

Don't quite know what to think about this one.

There were reports of a failed Israeli weapons test there at the Dimona Nuclear Weapons facility prior to any reports of missiles.

There's something scwewy about this.

In other news, it seems that there's rockets raining down on the Baghdad airport. That's an interesting twist of irony. No reports of casualties at Camp Victory there.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

DOP - Days of Palestine

Days of Palestine Foundation is a Palestinian organization concerned with international media in order to reach all people and institutions around the world.

daysofpalestine.ps

"Egypt condemns the acts of violence and provocation carried out by extremist Jewish groups targeting the Palestinian brothers residing in the Old City of East Jerusalem which has resulted in the injury of dozens of civilians," the Egyptian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

The statement came as Israeli settlers continued to assault Palestinians in various areas across the occupied East Jerusalem for the third day in a row.

At least 105 Jerusalemites have been injured while 50 others have been rounded up by the Israeli police on the grounds of causing "violence."

 

[P F Tinmore]

DOP - Days of Palestine

Days of Palestine Foundation is a Palestinian organization concerned with international media in order to reach all people and institutions around the world.

daysofpalestine.ps

Amnesty International condemned the Israeli occupation by using excessive force against the Palestinians, which caused the imposition of coercive measures, which caused the displacement of hundreds of Palestinian families in the occupied territories, the demolition of hundreds of homes, the imposition of unfair discrimination, and killings and arrests.

In its annual report for the year 2020, the organization stated that the Israeli occupation forces tortured children with all kinds of torture and other ill-treatment, and detained hundreds of them in arbitrary administrative detention, and continued to restrict freedom of movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, exposing its residents to collective punishment, exacerbating the crises they are experiencing.

 

[Hollie]

DOP - Days of Palestine

Days of Palestine Foundation is a Palestinian organization concerned with international media in order to reach all people and institutions around the world.

daysofpalestine.ps

Amnesty International condemned the Israeli occupation by using excessive force against the Palestinians, which caused the imposition of coercive measures, which caused the displacement of hundreds of Palestinian families in the occupied territories, the demolition of hundreds of homes, the imposition of unfair discrimination, and killings and arrests.

In its annual report for the year 2020, the organization stated that the Israeli occupation forces tortured children with all kinds of torture and other ill-treatment, and detained hundreds of them in arbitrary administrative detention, and continued to restrict freedom of movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, exposing its residents to collective punishment, exacerbating the crises they are experiencing.

Reads like a typical propaganda hit piece.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Negative Reporting Style of NGOs
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Such Annual Reports are manipulated by propagandists with three goals:

◈ To make an effort to that attempts to distribute a crude attempt at mud-slinging. ​

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◈ It pretends to thoughtfully address issues of the day to show that they are relevant.​

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◈ They present no new information → but → instead, such annual criticism claims reiterates a venue popular anti-Israeli view to make it appear they have something to contribute. ​

Amnesty International condemned the Israeli occupation by using excessive force against the Palestinians, which caused the imposition of coercive measures, which caused the displacement of hundreds of Palestinian families in the occupied territories, the demolition of hundreds of homes, the imposition of unfair discrimination, and killings and arrests.

In its annual report for the year 2020, the organization stated that the Israeli occupation forces tortured children with all kinds of torture and other ill-treatment, and detained hundreds of them in arbitrary administrative detention, and continued to restrict freedom of movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, exposing its residents to collective punishment, exacerbating the crises they are experiencing.

(COMMENT)

As far as "torturing children" (an emotional attempt to describe juvenile delinquents), the claim is never really substantiated. There is no evidence of a systematic program of intentionally harming juvenile delinquents. But they are detained and have an environment equal to or better than any other Regional Country has for detain those delinquents engaged in activities outside the law.

There is no program of "arbitrary detention," administrative or otherwise - that degrade public order and safety (HR 1907 Article 43) or are involved in committing offenses which are solely intended to harm the Occupying Power. Additionally, any internment or imprisonment of any category of protected person for such offenses, adhere to International Humanitarian Law (IHL) (Article 68, GCIV) detention and countermeasures which have the consequence which result in depriving protected persons of liberty.

These types of foggy reports make accusations of the demolition of hundreds of homes, but never explain the mitigating circumstances or legal reasoning. These reports never mention that the complainants do not use the dispute resolution processes or other means under the Permanent Status of Negotiation.

IF you do a "Word Search" on the Amnesty International Report 6 April 2021, a type of Executive Summary, does NOT mention Israel once. However, the much larger Amnesty International Report 2020/21 • THE STATE OF THE WORLD’S HUMAN RIGHTS © Amnesty International 2021 • 7 April 2021, Index number: POL 10/3202/2021, makes several references to Israel and the Occupied Territories. Nothing that is not already known to be anti-Israel notiations.

◈ FORCIBLE TRANSFERS, FORCED EVICTIONS AND DEMOLITIONS​

DISCRIMINATION (against Palestinian citizens of Israel in areas of planning, budget allocation, policing and political participation)​

1. UNLAWFUL KILLINGS AND EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE
2. FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT
3. ARBITRARY DETENTION
4. UNFAIR TRIALS
5. TORTURE AND OTHER ILL-TREATMENT
6. FREEDOMS OF EXPRESSION AND ASSOCIATION
7. RIGHTS OF REFUGEES, ASYLUM-SEEKERS AND MIGRANTS
8. GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE
9. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTORS

To put this in perspective, there were over 100 countries listed in the Amnesty International Report, and in each one had Amnesty International had something negative to say about that nation.

My personal favorite was the little country • The Republic of Moldova. To be perfectly honest - I had to look it up and I got a real kick out f it. The first thing that jumped-out at me was the statement: "Location of Moldova in Europe (green) and its uncontrolled territory of Transnistria (light green).

No progress was made compared to previous years in addressing systemic problems behind torture and other ill-treatment, and impunity for perpetrators prevailed. Torture survivors and victims’ families remained unable to access full and effective reparation. The number of allegations, independently reported and officially registered, remained broadly the same year on year.

I had to chuckle.

To get a real flavor to the report, you have to look, at a minimum, what Amnesty International had to say about Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and Syria. Then you get the tone of the Report that generally paints an ugly face on the pig (which is already ugly enough).

Just My Thoughts,

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no program of "arbitrary detention," administrative or otherwise - that degrade public order and safety (HR 1907 Article 43) or are involved in committing offenses which are solely intended to harm the Occupying Power.

Israeli horseshit, of course. Khalida Jarrar has never as much as picked up a rock.

Israel's persecution of Khalida Jarrar Member of Palestinian Parliament

 

[Hollie]

Israeli horseshit, of course. Khalida Jarrar has never as much as picked up a rock.

Incitement to violence can cause others to pick up rocks.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israeli horseshit, of course. Khalida Jarrar has never as much as picked up a rock.

Incitement to violence can cause others to pick up rocks.

What incitement was that?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC:
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

CMT: Khalida Jarrar is a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), #20 that is listed as a Terrorist Organization all across Europe.

There is no program of "arbitrary detention," administrative or otherwise - that degrade public order and safety (HR 1907 Article 43) or are involved in committing offenses which are solely intended to harm the Occupying Power.

Israeli horseshit, of course. Khalida Jarrar has never as much as picked up a rock.

Israel's persecution of Khalida Jarrar Member of Palestinian Parliament

(COMMENT)

What does it matter if she was a member of the now defunct Palestinian Legislative Council? (RHETORICAL) Any day is a good day to neutralize a terrorist.

Khalida Jarrar was sentenced on the charge of “inciting violence” and belonging to a “banned organization.”

Just the other day you were harping about Israel being outside international law.

You are free to interpret the prohibition of all advocacy that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence (“incitement” or “incitement to hatred”), as mandated by Article 20(2) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (“ICCPR”).

Article 20 ​

1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1624 (2005)
Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

1. (a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
2. (b) Prevent such conduct;
3. (c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible

Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war - Para 1 • A/RES/2/110

Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;​

Khalida Jarrar deserves a much longer prison term then what she received.

Just My Thoughts,

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

What incitement was that?

What RoccoR offered.

Pleading ignorance has never saved you from the facts you hope to ignore.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC:
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

CMT: Khalida Jarrar is a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), #20 that is listed as a Terrorist Organization all across Europe.

There is no program of "arbitrary detention," administrative or otherwise - that degrade public order and safety (HR 1907 Article 43) or are involved in committing offenses which are solely intended to harm the Occupying Power.

Israeli horseshit, of course. Khalida Jarrar has never as much as picked up a rock.

Israel's persecution of Khalida Jarrar Member of Palestinian Parliament

(COMMENT)

What does it matter if she was a member of the now defunct Palestinian Legislative Council? (RHETORICAL) Any day is a good day to neutralize a terrorist.

Khalida Jarrar was sentenced on the charge of “inciting violence” and belonging to a “banned organization.”

Just the other day you were harping about Israel being outside international law.

You are free to interpret the prohibition of all advocacy that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence (“incitement” or “incitement to hatred”), as mandated by Article 20(2) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (“ICCPR”).

Article 20 ​

1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1624 (2005)
Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

1. (a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
2. (b) Prevent such conduct;
3. (c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible

Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war - Para 1 • A/RES/2/110

Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;​

Khalida Jarrar deserves a much longer prison term then what she received.

Just My Thoughts,

Most Respectfully,
R

You just don't like Khalida Jarrar because that is what Israel told you to do. Actually she is a remarkable woman. That is what Israel hates about her.

Free Khalida Jarrar: A Discussion with Yafa Jarrar

 

[Bobob]

Top Israelis Have Warned of Apartheid, so Why the Outrage at a UN Report?

the Israeli journalist Hirsh Goodman described how he returned home from the Six Day War in June 1967 to hear the country’s founding father and first prime minister, David Ben Gurion, speak on the radio. “Israel, he said, better rid itself of the territories and their Arab population as soon as possible,” recalled Goodman. “If it did not Israel would soon become an apartheid state.”

Goodman was born and raised in apartheid-era South Africa. “That phrase, ‘Israel will become an apartheid state,’ resonated with me,” Goodman wrote. “In a flash I understood what he was saying.”

Top Israelis Have Warned of Apartheid, so Why the Outrage at a UN Report?

Maybe the report is false? Could the children be involved in attacks against Israel?
Let's not forget that the Palestinian charter calls for the destruction of Israel.

 

[Hollie]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC:
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

CMT: Khalida Jarrar is a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), #20 that is listed as a Terrorist Organization all across Europe.

There is no program of "arbitrary detention," administrative or otherwise - that degrade public order and safety (HR 1907 Article 43) or are involved in committing offenses which are solely intended to harm the Occupying Power.

Israeli horseshit, of course. Khalida Jarrar has never as much as picked up a rock.

Israel's persecution of Khalida Jarrar Member of Palestinian Parliament

(COMMENT)

What does it matter if she was a member of the now defunct Palestinian Legislative Council? (RHETORICAL) Any day is a good day to neutralize a terrorist.

Khalida Jarrar was sentenced on the charge of “inciting violence” and belonging to a “banned organization.”

Just the other day you were harping about Israel being outside international law.

You are free to interpret the prohibition of all advocacy that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence (“incitement” or “incitement to hatred”), as mandated by Article 20(2) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (“ICCPR”).

Article 20 ​

1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1624 (2005)
Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

1. (a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
2. (b) Prevent such conduct;
3. (c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible

Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war - Para 1 • A/RES/2/110

Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;​

Khalida Jarrar deserves a much longer prison term then what she received.

Just My Thoughts,

Most Respectfully,
R

You just don't like Khalida Jarrar because that is what Israel told you to do. Actually she is a remarkable woman. That is what Israel hates about her.

That was embarrassing.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: The Border Security Dilemma 'vs' Apartheid
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Any Border Delineated by a Security Barrier can be mistaken for an Apartheid Demarcation. You have to be knowledgeable to tell the difference. A Security Barrier that separates Political Entities based on nationality or citizenship looks very much like one based on race, or any other criteria. It is not the "wall/barrier" that defines it, but rather why the barrier is deemed necessary.

“That phrase, ‘Israel will become an apartheid state,’ resonated with me,” Goodman wrote. “In a flash I understood what he was saying.”

Maybe the report is false? Could the children be involved in attacks against Israel?
Let's not forget that the Palestinian charter calls for the destruction of Israel.

(REFERENCE)

This is an example of a barrier that separates traffic; Palestinians on one side and Israelis on the other. Why is it necessary? (RHETORICAL) It significantly reduces hostile activity between the two. It is not based on "race" - as in Apartheid." It is based on the risk and danger the Palestinians pose to the Israelis.

​

(COMMENT)

The following are all pictures of Barriers used as Border demarcations from around the world.



They all have similarities to Separation Barriers based on "race." Yet not one of them was put in place for that reason.

Just My Thoughts,

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Any Border Delineated by a Security Barrier can be mistaken for an Apartheid Demarcation. You have to be knowledgeable to tell the difference.

You believe too many Israeli talking points.

 

[Hollie]

You believe too many Israeli talking points.

You spend too much time on YouTube.