All Doubts About Obama....Removed.

[Jackson]

We might not like the way Obama is going about extending protection to some illegal immigrants, but the GOP has allowed no other option. They have obstructed and obstructed and obstructed doing what 79% of Americans want done.

It's time for the American people to realize who is really ignoring their will.

79% support citizenship or legal status. 19 percent want deportation.

Is the GOP going to be stupid enough to side with the 19 percent? Are they going to spit in the faces of 79% of America?

Suicide cult decision time.

The vast majority of Americans want illegals to be provided a path to citizenship or legal status. Republicans are going against four out of five people, including those within their own ranks.

Republicans can keep bowing and scraping to the extremist elements and pay the price, or they can wise up and fly straight.

Obama is going to extend protection to those people he believes that immigration reform will ultimately provide a path to citizenship or legal status. He is not granting amnesty. This needs to be understood clearly. He is not granting amnesty.

Obama is simply choosing not to kick out those people that 79% of Americans believe ought to have a shot at citizenship or legal status.

It is as simple as that.

Congress could have easily already achieved this, but the GOP has been bowing and scraping to the extremist elements instead. And that is how we have arrived at this crossroads. The GOP and its subservience to bigots has brought us here. They thought they could get away with playing hardball and that Obama would cave.

Surprise! He can play hardball, too.

Now the Republicans need to wise up and listen to the 79% of Americans who want these people to have a path to citizenship or legal status. Or the GOP can continue on as a suicide cult and fellate the bigots and pay the price in 2016.

The ball is in their court.

 

[g5000]

It also STILL wouldn't make it legal for the president to act on his own.

He is a president, not a dictator or monarch.

Without facts, you are coming across more and more the fool.

EOs are not intrinsically unconstitutional. You will have to show exactly how Obama's EO is.

Haven't you noticed by now that none of your hack sources has ever provided a single shred of evidence? They have never said exactly what provision of what law he is violating. They have filled your head with some bullshit about amnesty, when Obama is not actually doing that.

You have been lied to. Deliberately. I am not the one you should be angry with. You should be angry with the people who have been lying to you, and you should be angry with yourself for believing them.


But I have a feeling you are going to keep going back to the well to drink more of their piss.

That's what most of the rubes around here do.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It also STILL wouldn't make it legal for the president to act on his own.

He is a president, not a dictator or monarch.

so the president is no longer in charge of the executive branch in your world?

Another one comes out from the woodwork.

 

[g5000]

Here is how it is going to play out:

1) Obama will defer deportation for some illegals. He will not provide a path to citizenship or legal status.

2) Congress will eventually enact legislation which does provide a path to citizenship or legal status. In a subsequent press conference, Boehner will toss out words like "tough" and "security" and whatever other jingoistic bullshit will satisfy the rubes, and he will throw up a lot of smoke to cover up the fact he backed down and finally granted amnesty to illegals.

3) Because Obama didn't deport them, those people will still be here and will be able to start down the path to citizenship or legal status, exactly as the American people intended.

4) Every rube will forget they were lied to about Obama granting amnesty and will line up to swallow the next lie about whatever pops up next on the radar.

 

[ogibillm]

It also STILL wouldn't make it legal for the president to act on his own.

He is a president, not a dictator or monarch.

so the president is no longer in charge of the executive branch in your world?

Another one comes out from the woodwork.

simple question. is the president allowed to direct the executive branch or not?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Even his supporters know that the OP description of Obama is true....and they've mounted a flimsy obfuscation by attempting to compare him to the finest President in modern times:



5. "....the Progressive media is in full spin to mitigate the anger Americans are expressing about President Obama’s decision to offer legal status to millions of people who broke the law.

6. Democrats across print, web, and cable media have been repeating the claim that Obama is doing nothing more than what Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 did first. They point to executive actions taken in 1987 and 1989 that deferred the removal of certain aliens. But, as usual for Progressive commentators, they elide the crucial facts that distinguish those actions from Obama’s.



7. "No, Reagan Did Not Offer An Amnesty By Lawless Executive Order



8. In 1986, faced with a large and growing population of illegal aliens, Congress created a new, time-limited form of immigration relief for certain aliens .... Reagan, seeing this family unity problem that Congress had not anticipated or addressed when it granted amnesty to millions of parents, issued an executive order to defer the removal of children of the people who had applied for immigration amnesty under Congress’ new law.

9. A few years later, Bush 41 extended this bit of administrative grace to these same children plus certain spouses of the aliens who had actually been granted immigration amnesty under Congress’ new law.

10. Reagan and Bush 41 executive actions were obviously different than what Obama is doing now. They were trying to implement a complicated amnesty that Congress had already passed. Congress’ action was a form of immigration relief that obviously fit within our constitutional system. "
No Reagan Did Not Offer An Amnesty By Lawless Executive Order



Obama, the lawless President, support by the ignorant and the unprincipled.

Just out of morbid curiosity, how are you so certain in your opinion that the President is going to do something lawless,

when you don't even know what he's going to do?

"Obama’s royal flip-flop on using executive action on illegal immigration

With President Obama poised to take executive action to address immigration, perhaps as early as this week, he was challenged by a reporter to explain why he believed he could take this action now, after years of saying his hands were tied. The president responded with a Pinocchio-laden straw man, saying that the questions had a distinct focus: “their interest was in me, through executive action, duplicating the legislation that was stalled in Congress.”
Obama 8217 s royal flip-flop on using executive action on illegal immigration - The Washington Post

 

[g5000]

Again, I challenge all of the rubes who are drinking the piss to read Obama's EO and then come here and gloat as you post the part where he provides a path to citizenship for illegals.

Won't it give you a lot of joy to prove me wrong? I bet you are excited.

 

[Impenitent]

Only Congress can grant amnesty, and that is what 79 percent of Americans want.

Bull shit... BULL ******* SHIT.

You progtards and your filthy little muslim shit ball in the white house just got your ASSES handed to you. Why? Because they want OBAMA and your LEFTIST AGENDA STOPPED, PERIOD, END OF STORY.

And the two biggest reasons for that were, NO EO AMNESTY, AND REPEAL OSCAMACARE.

Now you go on for the next FIFTY PAGES it you want about how I'm wrong, but I'm NOT.

The immigrants aboard the S.S. St Louis, could not disembark in the US because it was against immigration law, and were instead forced to return the Europe to deal with Hitler, as was their personal responsibility. No doubt ,Obama would have found a humanitarian solution to that problem.

MS St. Louis - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[g5000]

Obama's EO will grant temporary protective status to some illegals.

That's it.

Not amnesty.

Remember those who told you he was granting amnesty were lying to you. Do NOT forget.

 

[g5000]

We will see a great backpedaling tomorrow. The hacks who have been lying to you will throw up a lot of smoke. Over the past few years, they have carefully cultivated an Orwellian amnesty in their rube audience so you keep coming back for more piss even though you were lied to so shortly before.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Even his supporters know that the OP description of Obama is true....and they've mounted a flimsy obfuscation by attempting to compare him to the finest President in modern times:



5. "....the Progressive media is in full spin to mitigate the anger Americans are expressing about President Obama’s decision to offer legal status to millions of people who broke the law.

6. Democrats across print, web, and cable media have been repeating the claim that Obama is doing nothing more than what Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 did first. They point to executive actions taken in 1987 and 1989 that deferred the removal of certain aliens. But, as usual for Progressive commentators, they elide the crucial facts that distinguish those actions from Obama’s.



7. "No, Reagan Did Not Offer An Amnesty By Lawless Executive Order



8. In 1986, faced with a large and growing population of illegal aliens, Congress created a new, time-limited form of immigration relief for certain aliens .... Reagan, seeing this family unity problem that Congress had not anticipated or addressed when it granted amnesty to millions of parents, issued an executive order to defer the removal of children of the people who had applied for immigration amnesty under Congress’ new law.

9. A few years later, Bush 41 extended this bit of administrative grace to these same children plus certain spouses of the aliens who had actually been granted immigration amnesty under Congress’ new law.

10. Reagan and Bush 41 executive actions were obviously different than what Obama is doing now. They were trying to implement a complicated amnesty that Congress had already passed. Congress’ action was a form of immigration relief that obviously fit within our constitutional system. "
No Reagan Did Not Offer An Amnesty By Lawless Executive Order



Obama, the lawless President, support by the ignorant and the unprincipled.

Just out of morbid curiosity, how are you so certain in your opinion that the President is going to do something lawless,

when you don't even know what he's going to do?

"Obama’s royal flip-flop on using executive action on illegal immigration

With President Obama poised to take executive action to address immigration, perhaps as early as this week, he was challenged by a reporter to explain why he believed he could take this action now, after years of saying his hands were tied. The president responded with a Pinocchio-laden straw man, saying that the questions had a distinct focus: “their interest was in me, through executive action, duplicating the legislation that was stalled in Congress.”
Obama 8217 s royal flip-flop on using executive action on illegal immigration - The Washington Post

Was that a yes or a no?

Answering only yes or no, is every executive order unconstitutional?

 

[PredFan]

Everything, EVERY SINGLE THING, that conservatives have said from the beginning about Obama has either come true or will soon.

Ha! Yes, but only in their own fantasies, unfortunately!!

Or as he really turned the US into a socialist country with no guns??!!

The one problem I've noticed that all USMB liberals have is reading comprehension difficulties. I guess it explains why you are liberals still after all we have tried to teach you.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Answering only yes or no, is every executive order unconstitutional?

Not every executive order is the same. They can be mundane things that really don't matter, or something as major as delaying deportation which is enabling amnesty.

When Reagan did it he didn't do it through executive order, he followed the rule of law.

 

[Saigon]

The one problem I've noticed that all USMB liberals have us reading comprehension difficulties. I guess it explains why you are le wrs still after all we have tried to teach you.

Does anyone have a Window Licker to English translation tool?

 

[PredFan]

The one problem I've noticed that all USMB liberals have us reading comprehension difficulties. I guess it explains why you are le wrs still after all we have tried to teach you.

Does anyone have a Window Licker to English translation tool?

Yeah spell correct has been going to hell lately. Thanks for making my point dumbass.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Answering only yes or no, is every executive order unconstitutional?

Not every executive order is the same. They can be mundane things that really don't matter, or something as major as delaying deportation which is enabling amnesty.

When Reagan did it he didn't do it through executive order, he followed the rule of law.

Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]

 

[Saigon]

Pred Fan -

You really might want to consider taking some literacy classes. Seriously.

 

[g5000]

It's funny, really. A hack media outlet says Obama is granting amnesty, and the rubes don't question it. They drink it right up, never asking for proof, and they won't read the EO when it becomes available so as to avoid having their fantasy shattered.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Answering only yes or no, is every executive order unconstitutional?

Not every executive order is the same. They can be mundane things that really don't matter, or something as major as delaying deportation which is enabling amnesty.

When Reagan did it he didn't do it through executive order, he followed the rule of law.

So you don't even know what Obama's executive order might be, but you're certain it's unconstitutional, despite your admission that not all executive orders are unconstitutional...

...that's a bit intellectually irresponsible isn't it?

 

[PredFan]

Pred Fan -

You really might want to consider taking some literacy classes. Seriously.

Stop it, you are breaking my irony meter. You are the one who cannot understand even basic written concepts even in plain English.