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Alex Baldwin vindicated

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It's not a good day to be an Alec Baldwin hater.
Police said the movie director who handed him the prop gun told him it had no bullets in it.
Please no police bashing in this thread. Thank you.
"Alec Baldwin was handed what was described as a safe "cold gun" on the set of his movie "Rust", but the prop gun contained live rounds when it was fired, according to details of the police investigation into the fatal shooting released on Friday."
This is the official apology thread to those who bashed Alec Baldwin.
Stay away from guns--you're a moron. The person who pulls the trigger is responsible for the safety of the weapon. Baldwin was a moron because he didn't clear it himself and you're a moron for trying to justify the unsafe handling of a firearm. SMH.
 

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Hannah Gutierrez-Reed: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know​



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Who is Dave Halls? AD on 'Rust' set handed live gun to Alec Baldwin, said it's safe


Who is Hannah Gutierrez? Armorer who brought live gun on set of 'Rust' identified


The problem with the above two articles is that there is an assumption that the gun was loaded prior to Baldwin being given the gun. There is no proof that the gun was already loaded. Only if you believe the assumption that it was loaded and everyone else lied about it not being loaded. We are yet to receive evidence that it was already loaded. Baldwin is not yet clear in my mind until they set forth evidence that the gun was already loaded even though the Assistant Director Halls, said it was "Cold".

Did Baldwin have time to load the gun after getting it?

Does Halls and Gutierrez have proof the gun was safe or a second witness?
"According to the Sun, Hannah Gutierrez Reed is the daughter of longtime film industry armorer, Thell Reed."

longtime?

I think some of her lack of attention to her work, and shoddy work, might be due to entitlement, using dope on the set, and not being able to live up to her old man.

Insecurity is a bitch.

". . .Thell Reed began winning fast draw tournaments; he drew the attention of Gene Autry, who took him on a Wild West Tour. After that point, he started working on movies, including Gunsmoke, L.A. Confidential, Tombstone, The Quick and the Dead, Proof of Life, and Flags of Our Fathers. . . "

 

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It's not a good day to be an Alec Baldwin hater.
Police said the movie director who handed him the prop gun told him it had no bullets in it.
Please no police bashing in this thread. Thank you.
"Alec Baldwin was handed what was described as a safe "cold gun" on the set of his movie "Rust", but the prop gun contained live rounds when it was fired, according to details of the police investigation into the fatal shooting released on Friday."
This is the official apology thread to those who bashed Alec Baldwin.
As far as unconcerned it's just another example how guns etc are out of control.
Get used to it.
 

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Hannah Gutierrez-Reed: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know​



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Is there any proof of evidence that she didn't check the gun? Maybe she did make sure it was "cold" and maybe Halls or Baldwin are guilty of loading the weapon. Haven't seen any proof that Gutierrez is the guilty one yet.
 

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This didn’t age well…New Mexico is reporting that charges have not been ruled out…apparently Baldwin ran a very unsafe set, and even more live rounds have been found
 

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Actually, that's INCRIMINATING information about Baldwin, not exculpatory.

After all, if the gun was unloaded when the director handed it to Baldwin, it must have been Baldwin who loaded it.

No, not only would Baldwin not have loaded the gun and then pulled the trigger, but the director must not have checked it since it had to have been loaded by the staff who used it for plinking the day before.

Baldwin was not one of the plinkers, so could not have been the one who loaded it.
 

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This didn’t age well…New Mexico is reporting that charges have not been ruled out…apparently Baldwin ran a very unsafe set, and even more live rounds have been found

Producers do not run sets.
Directors do that.
 

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Producers do not run sets.
Directors do that.
wasn’t baldwin there? just seems like a very hazardous place.

what do produces do? they have no say? Baldwin had not control over the work environment he produced and acted in? really?
 

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Things don't look good for Baldwin possibly being charged


John Landis

Director John Landis was charged with involuntary manslaughter after an accident on the set of his film The Twilight Zone caused the deaths of actor Vic Morrow and two children, who were extras. Landis was later acquitted of the charge, but did pay a settlement to the families of the children who died.


 

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wasn’t baldwin there? just seems like a very hazardous place.

what do produces do? they have no say? Baldwin had not control over the work environment he produced and acted in? really?

Producers help raise the money to fund it and then get more of the profits.
Wealthy actors often produce their own movies because otherwise no one might want to cast them.
Producing does not mean they have any role in the day to day routine.
 

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Well, I hope they figure it out.

I think he's a dick, since I remember that awful voicemail he left for his young daughter several years back.

But one has nothing to do with the other.
There's a lot of hate towards him because he did a beautiful job on trump.
I can only imagine how he will blitz him again if he runs in 24
 

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Producers help raise the money to fund it and then get more of the profits.
Wealthy actors often produce their own movies because otherwise no one might want to cast them.
Producing does not mean they have any role in the day to day routine.
he didn’t hire the director? have any say? just throw up the money and, of course cast himself?

i find that hard to believe

why didn’t he say anything to the director he hired about the unsafe conditions? was he that desperate for a movie role?
 

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Is there any proof of evidence that she didn't check the gun? Maybe she did make sure it was "cold" and maybe Halls or Baldwin are guilty of loading the weapon. Haven't seen any proof that Gutierrez is the guilty one yet.
iu
 

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Update on the ivestigation

Sheriff believes that a live round was fired from the gun that Baldwin used.

 

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