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Thread.He will never be convicted
He was using a weapon he assumed was a prop
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Thread.He will never be convicted
He was using a weapon he assumed was a prop
Whenever a firearm is in someone’s hands, it’s their responsibility to ensure the status of that firearm. If that person fails to check then points it at someone and kills them, tbat person committed a crime.Not everyone is an ammosexual who thinks about guns all the time.
He was handed what he was told was a cold gun, that had been certified by an armorer.
That should have been good enough.
I was an Armorer when I was a service. When I issued a weapon, they rarely checked it for live rounds, because they knew I wasn't storing live rounds in the arms vault. (We also stored the bolts and weapons separately, but that's another issue.)
Any person who pulls the trigger of a firearm is responsible for using it in a safe manner. It doesn’t matter who handed to them or what was said while it’s being passed from hand to hand.Is that the requirement on every movie using a gun?
The actor is responsible for gun safety?
Prove that and you might have a case
Not everyone is an ammosexual who thinks about guns all the time.
He was handed what he was told was a cold gun, that had been certified by an armorer.
That should have been good enough.
I was an Armorer when I was a service. When I issued a weapon, they rarely checked it for live rounds, because they knew I wasn't storing live rounds in the arms vault. (We also stored the bolts and weapons separately, but that's another issue.)
He was told that it was a cold gun, when handed to him by an armorer.
If you were indeed an armorer in the military you know better than that. I suspect you are not telling the truths out your experience as an armorer.Not everyone is an ammosexual who thinks about guns all the time.
He was handed what he was told was a cold gun, that had been certified by an armorer.
That should have been good enough.
I was an Armorer when I was a service. When I issued a weapon, they rarely checked it for live rounds, because they knew I wasn't storing live rounds in the arms vault. (We also stored the bolts and weapons separately, but that's another issue.)
For someone who supposedly has a lot of experience with guns, you have a misunderstanding of standard gun safety. Always, no matter what someone told you, no matter what you think, treat a gun as if it is loaded until you personally verify that it is not. If it leaves you sight or possession, check it again, particularly if you plan on pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger. There is absolutely no way I would do that until I verified myself or at the very least witnessed the verification just before being handed the gun.
Another point is why did they have live ammunition on the set at all? I am not in the movie industry, but it is my understanding that the producer(s) are the top dogs to which everyone else answers. Baldwin was the producer of the film.
For someone who supposedly has a lot of experience with guns, you have a misunderstanding of standard gun safety. Always, no matter what someone told you, no matter what you think, treat a gun as if it is loaded until you personally verify that it is not. If it leaves your sight or possession, check it again, particularly if you plan on pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger. There is absolutely no way I would do that until I verified myself or at the very least witnessed the verification just before being handed the gun.
Another point is why did they have live ammunition on the set at all? I am not in the movie industry, but it is my understanding that the producer(s) are the top dogs to which everyone else answers. Baldwin was the producer of the film.
There is a shared responsibility in this. The armorer has already been dealt with.Yep, having live ammo on set is a major violation....and as a producer on the film he shares liability....
Whenever a firearm is in someone’s hands, it’s their responsibility to ensure the status of that firearm. If that person fails to check then points it at someone and kills them, tbat person committed a crime.
Already answered, get someone to explain the big words to you, stupid.Is that good enough for you? Would you have pulled that trigger?
And I can't tell you how careless people tended to be with weapons during field excercises, including leaving them in vehicles, etc. I tell you what, I had to hand out 100 weapons every field excercise, and most people did NOT check their weapons. No reason to, the Armorer assured them it was operation and not loaded. Now, yeah, when ammo was issued, that was another story.For someone who supposedly has a lot of experience with guns, you have a misunderstanding of standard gun safety. Always, no matter what someone told you, no matter what you think, treat a gun as if it is loaded until you personally verify that it is not. If it leaves your sight or possession, check it again, particularly if you plan on pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger. There is absolutely no way I would do that until I verified myself or at the very least witnessed the verification just before being handed the gun.