After the Tennessee Shooting, Maybe Now Conservatives Will Turn Against Assault Weapons Because They Hate Transgenders

[JoeB131]

Except that there is nothing about being white, "cisgender" or male that indicates a mental disorder.

Nor is there anything about being a person of color, female or transgender that indicates that.

They might suffer OTHER mental issues, to be sure. Maybe a few more anxiety related ones, dealing with racism, sexism or transphobia.

 

[JoeB131]

And a wife wouldn't know her closet gay husband was gay until she found out.

The problem is, the government couldn't find ANY proof that he was gay. No dating profiles, no ex-lovers, no proof he had visited Pulse on any previous occassion. No homophobic slurs screamed at the people he was shooting.

You got fooled by the LGBTQ people who tried to make this a hate crime when it wasn't.

So tell me why they won't work in schools?
A large portion of American citizens train more than a lot of those trained professionals. Some are training 2-3 times a month

I often say, the best argument for gun control is a conversation with a gun nut.

 

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[2aguy]

Your profound ignorance of Chinese History is amazing.

The problem China had was that it had too many freaking guns before the Communists took over. The country had pretty much splintered into warlords and was being invaded by foreign powers. Most Chinese welcomed when the Communists took over.

Yes...they welcomed the mass murder of 70 million people...

You are so stupid....

 

[JoeB131]

Yes...they welcomed the mass murder of 70 million people...

The only way you get to the "70 million" figure is if you include anyone who died in a famine.

It's like all you clowns who claim Stalin killed 50 million people during his reign, but the population of the USSR increased between 1919 and 1953.

 

[2aguy]

The only way you get to the "70 million" figure is if you include anyone who died in a famine.

It's like all you clowns who claim Stalin killed 50 million people during his reign, but the population of the USSR increased between 1919 and 1953.

Yeah.....just like you to praise stalin......and lie about the mass murder of 25 million Russians...

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah.....just like you to praise stalin......and lie about the mass murder of 25 million Russians...

First, the 25 million number is utter bullshit.

Secondly, while I don't praise Stalin, he did essentially save the world from Hitler, and that should count for something.

 

[2aguy]

First, the 25 million number is utter bullshit.

Secondly, while I don't praise Stalin, he did essentially save the world from Hitler, and that should count for something.

He didn't do anything like that, and if it wasn't for the U.S. the soviets would be part of eastern Germany..........

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The problem is, the government couldn't find ANY proof that he was gay. No dating profiles, no ex-lovers, no proof he had visited Pulse on any previous occassion. No homophobic slurs screamed at the people he was shooting.

You got fooled by the LGBTQ people who tried to make this a hate crime when it wasn't.


I often say, the best argument for gun control is a conversation with a gun nut.

You don't want a solution you just want to push more useless gun control save gun control defend gun control now that's nutty

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Your profound ignorance of Chinese History is amazing.

The problem China had was that it had too many freaking guns before the Communists took over. The country had pretty much splintered into warlords and was being invaded by foreign powers. Most Chinese welcomed when the Communists took over.

And the communist confiscated the guns and murdered millions

 

[bigrebnc1775]

First, the 25 million number is utter bullshit.

Secondly, while I don't praise Stalin, he did essentially save the world from Hitler, and that should count for something.

You do realize Stalin murdered more people than Hitler?

 

[2aguy]

You do realize Stalin murdered more people than Hitler?

He doesn't care............for him mass murder is simply a tool for getting rid of the people he doesn't like....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He doesn't care............for him mass murder is simply a tool for getting rid of the people he doesn't like....

He's in love with communism

 

[Seymour Flops]

Nor is there anything about being a person of color, female or transgender that indicates that.

They might suffer OTHER mental issues, to be sure. Maybe a few more anxiety related ones, dealing with racism, sexism or transphobia.

Gender euphoria is a mental disorder listed in the DSM-V (5 not vee), which is the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders.

Having that disorder is associated with high rates of suicide including suicide by cop which school shooting are a particularly destructive form of.

Sorry Joe! Children shouldn't be sacrificed in order to affim transgenderss.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The only way you get to the "70 million" figure is if you include anyone who died in a famine.

You say that like it's a wrong way to look at it. The famines were brought on by the socialism. If You mean we shouldn't be blaming Stalin but socialism itself, sure your right.

But it is socialism that empowers the Stalin's and Hitler's to unleash their worst excesses.

It's like all you clowns who claim Stalin killed 50 million people during his reign, but the population of the USSR increased between 1919 and 1953.

Wow.

 

[JoeB131]

He didn't do anything like that, and if it wasn't for the U.S. the soviets would be part of eastern Germany..........

Uh, not really. The USSR's contributions to the war in Europe were vastly greater than the UK and US combined.

We took on a few dozen German divisions in France or Italy.

Stalin took on HUNDREDS of German divisions on the Eastern Front.

You should really follow the World War 2 Channel from Time Ghost Army, they'll give you an idea of how massive the war was on the Eastern front.

You say that like it's a wrong way to look at it. The famines were brought on by the socialism. If You mean we shouldn't be blaming Stalin but socialism itself, sure your right.

But it is socialism that empowers the Stalin's and Hitler's to unleash their worst excesses.

I was talking about the figures for Mao, not Stalin, but they are both largely bullshit Bircher propaganda.

I will agree the famines in China were the result of mismanagement. For instance, lower level officials were overreporting rice production, so China was exporting rice for currency instead of redistributing it for their own people.

But famine in china is no more a result of socialism than famine in East Bengal (which killed millions during WWII) was a result of Capitalism.

Gender euphoria is a mental disorder listed in the DSM-V (5 not vee), which is the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders.

It would be a easier to take you seriously if you didn't call Gender Dysphoria by the wrong name, or realize that the DSM-V changed the opinion on it to treat people as their identified gender instead of trying to "cure" them.

Gender Dysphoria DSM-5 302.85 (F64.9) - Therapedia

www.theravive.com

Fortunately treatment options exist that are beneficial for gender dysphoria, and these consist of psychotherapy, pharmacologic therapy, as well as other nonpharmacologic therapies, and sexual reassignment surgery (SRS) (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). Professionals are changing pessimistic attitudes regarding SRS, plus more scientific evidence has shown the benefit of this procedure (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). All the same, it should be stated that SRS does not automatically mean any issue is resolved, and much psychotherapy may be needed after the procedure in order to improve outcome generally (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfaf?in, 2009).

 

[2aguy]

Uh, not really. The USSR's contributions to the war in Europe were vastly greater than the UK and US combined.

We took on a few dozen German divisions in France or Italy.

Stalin took on HUNDREDS of German divisions on the Eastern Front.

You should really follow the World War 2 Channel from Time Ghost Army, they'll give you an idea of how massive the war was on the Eastern front.



I was talking about the figures for Mao, not Stalin, but they are both largely bullshit Bircher propaganda.

I will agree the famines in China were the result of mismanagement. For instance, lower level officials were overreporting rice production, so China was exporting rice for currency instead of redistributing it for their own people.

But famine in china is no more a result of socialism than famine in East Bengal (which killed millions during WWII) was a result of Capitalism.



It would be a easier to take you seriously if you didn't call Gender Dysphoria by the wrong name, or realize that the DSM-V changed the opinion on it to treat people as their identified gender instead of trying to "cure" them.

Gender Dysphoria DSM-5 302.85 (F64.9) - Therapedia

www.theravive.com

Fortunately treatment options exist that are beneficial for gender dysphoria, and these consist of psychotherapy, pharmacologic therapy, as well as other nonpharmacologic therapies, and sexual reassignment surgery (SRS) (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). Professionals are changing pessimistic attitudes regarding SRS, plus more scientific evidence has shown the benefit of this procedure (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). All the same, it should be stated that SRS does not automatically mean any issue is resolved, and much psychotherapy may be needed after the procedure in order to improve outcome generally (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfaf?in, 2009).

Stalin was only able to hold out because the U.S. supplied him after he lost vast resources to the Germans because he had pre positioned them for his invasion....but the Germans invaded first.....his horrible decisions decimated the officer ranks through his purges, his orders for his military caused them to lose huge numbers pointlessly, and if not for the U.S. and the allies opening up the Italian front Germany would have beaten him ....you doofus...

A second mention is in the Memoirs of Nikita Khrushchev, who wrote, "If the U.S. had not helped us, we would not have won the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me." A third appraisal comes from Marshal Georgy Zhukov, who in a reported private conversation in 1963 said, "It cannot be denied that the Americans sent us material without which we could not have formed our resources or continued the war."

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Lend-Lease: How the US Kept the Soviets Afloat in World War II

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Russia's D-Day message: You're welcome

It’s true that Russia had to contend with more German units than the Allies did in France. This ignores the fact that the Allies had fought the Nazis in North Africa and up the Italian peninsula for several years prior to D-Day, not to mention the naval warfare that the US and UK conducted. Furthermore, even after the Soviets allied with the US, UK, and Free France, they pointedly refused to declare war on Japan, where the US and the Commonwealth were committing massive forces against Hitler’s ally. Stalin declared war on Japan only after the bombings in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in order to demand territorial gains.


Even apart from that, this ignores the fact that Stalin made a greedy agreement with Hitler to divvy up Poland. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in August 1939, a craven and disgusting act, guaranteed the start of World War II. Would Hitler have invaded Poland without the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? Probably, but it would have meant keeping his eastern front prepared for a Soviet reaction. Instead, Hitler overran the Netherland, Belgium, and France … all without Stalin opening up a “second front.”


The Soviets made the mistake of not taking Hitler’s demand for lebensraum seriously and thought they could seize land on the cheap, until Hitler finally turned on Stalin when he thought the time was right. Until then, Stalin’s communist proxies in France, the UK, and the US argued not for a “second front” but for isolationism and a hands-off approach to the conflict in eastern Europe.


Only after Hitler invaded the Soviet Union did Stalin and the communists begin shrieking about a “second front,” ignoring the fact that the Brits had been fighting one in North Africa. (The US joined that front soon after Pearl Harbor.) The Italian campaign tied up a number of German units as well, especially after Mussolini ran out of Rome and the Italians switched sides. The allies attempted a smaller scale invasion force in 1943 at Dieppe to get what would be a thirdfront in Europe, which turned out to be a disaster for the Canadian troops that got trapped there. It was the hard lessons learned at Dieppe as well as those in the Pacific theater that were eventually applied 75 years ago today in the successful D-Day operation.
There’s one other laughable aspect to Russia’s D-Day propaganda, too. The invasion was a massive effort to liberate other countries from the Nazi grip — not just France but also Belgium, the Netherlands, Austria, Czechoslovakia, and so on. The Russians fought valiantly after the Nazi invasion, but let’s not kid ourselves; they were fighting to free themselves. And when they did manage to push the Nazis out of Russia proper, the Soviets pushed through all of the states of eastern Europe, not to liberate them but to seize them and put them in their own iron grip. They kept those countries prisoner for more than forty years, too.


Remember, they also invaded Poland...

The 1939 Soviet invasion of Poland was a Soviet military operation that started without a formal declaration of war on 17 September 1939, during the early stages of World War II. Sixteen days afterNazi Germany invaded Poland from the west, the Soviet Union did so from the east. The invasion ended on 6 October 1939 with the division and annexing of the whole of the Second Polish Republicby Germany and the Soviet Union.[SUP][6][/SUP]

Also...

American Weapons in Russian Army - English Russia

During World War 2 America helped Soviet Russia a lot with different weapons. Trucks, jeeps, military and cargo planes – all sorts of technical equipment was sent to Russia.
In this post we’ll have some unique photos from WW2 by Russian soldier who participated in such missions to America for this help. He was a pilot and their squad was taking American planes to Russia during the war. According to his son’s stories this visits to USA left a big impression upon minds of Russian soldiers, but they were desperate to help their country to win the war and none of the decided to seek a refuge in States.
They usually were taking B-25 heavy bomber planes and P-53 “King Cobras” lighter fighters. It’s interesting that the Red Stars, the emblems of Soviet Russian Army were printed on the planes right in the US and they were flying those Red Star marked planes above USA freely on their way to Russia. Those were the only times I guess when Russian military planes were above the States. Though those Red Star logos were afterwards wiped out in Russia because they were paintedon a white circle, according USAAF standards and were not exactly what Stalin and other Russian chief commanders wanted to see on Russian planes.

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The Germans sustained MASSIVE casualties on the various fronts in which they were compelled to engage the Americans. You see, there was this fellow named General George Patton you may have heard of him whose genius and aggressive tactics gave the German high command many nightmares.
Not only did the Germans have to contend with Patton, but America’s presence meant that Germany’s own greatest General, Erwin Rommel, and millions of his tenacious fighting forces were tied up in Africa and later Italy and France. Had it not been for Americas entry into the war, Britain would have been out of the picture as well. Rommel’s armies would thus have been fighting and tipping the balance against what would have been an under-supplied Red Army on the Eastern front.
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Oh, and by the way need we remind of the utter devastation wreaked upon German industry and German civilians by the “Bomber Boys” of the US & UK Air Forces? Wave upon wave upon wave of Allied heavy bombers mercilessly banged Germany throughout 1943 and 1944. ‘Ya think’ all of that urban destruction, railroad-bombing, refinery bombing, factory bombing, deliberate dam-busting and straight-up primitive warfare might have hindered the German war effort, just a tad? Maybe
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Certainly at key times western allied intervention did much to alleviate considerable pressure for the Russians on the eastern front. The American and British descent on North West Africa in November 1942 forced the Germans to not only deploy scare troops and tanks to Tunisia, but also to occupy Southern France, thus seriously spreading German forces even more thin just right before the Russians launched their powerful counter-attack at Stalingrad.


Likewise the allied invasion of Sicily in July 1943 was extremely problematic for the Germans as they were attempting their last great offensive on the eastern front at Kursk to regain at least some initiative against the Russians. It was in fact the reason why Hitler halted the offensive, which marked the point in the war where the Russians seized and retained the initiative for the rest of the conflict.


Hitler ordered significant formations from the eastern front to the Mediterranean, and while ultimately much of them were not sent, the Germans lost any chance, however small, of winning at Kursk, and thus it could be argued the Western Allies had a significant effect on the result of the battle.
Even the much criticized invasion of Italy had appreciable effects for the Russians. The Germans rightly feared the Italians were poised to switch sides to the allies and they deployed perhaps 20–25 divisions in Italy from mid-1943 to the end of the war. The invasion also forced the Germans to disarm countless Italian divisions which ultimately amounted to nearly 1 million soldiers in Italy, the Aegean, Greece and Yugoslavia. These soldiers had to be replaced, by German ones, and it is obvious that having to disarm and replace 1 million Axis soldiers, along with considerable amounts of tanks, planes, artillery and other equipment, could be nothing but beneficial to the Russians who fought the lion-share of the German army.
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Finally, the ever increasing threat of a western allied invasion of Western Europe in 1944 forced the Germans to keep significant forces, perhaps 60 divisions and a disproportionate amount of armor, in the west. Hitler was so obsessed with defeating such an invasion that he drained reinforcements to the eastern front and the lack of such forces helped the Russians to inflict perhaps the biggest defeat the Germans suffered during the war in the summer of 1944. As Nigel Davies noted in a piece regarding misleading statistics for the war “in sheer combat power, the removal of ten percent of divisions (say 20 divisions) from the Eastern Front to face the Western Allies (happened 3 times — Tunisia/Mediterranean 1942, Sicily/Italy 1943, and France 1944) looks a lot more significant if it involves moving 50% of the available Panzers and 70 or 80% of the high quality, full strength, specially equipped, Paratroop or Mountain or Waffen SS divisions.”

 

[JoeB131]

You do realize Stalin murdered more people than Hitler?

Well, no, he probably didn't.

Again, the Bircher figures are kind of laughable when you realize the population of the USSR INCREASED on Stalin's reign.

The population of the USSR was 147 Million in 1926


The population of the USSR in 1959 was 208 Million.

Now, yes, part of that was the annexation of the Baltic states after WWII, but to get to a 61 million person increase despite losing 20 million people in World War II, you realize that the 20 or 50 million people supposedly killed by Stalin is pure bunk.

 

[JoeB131]

Stalin was only able to hold out because the U.S. supplied him after he lost vast resources to the Germans because he had pre positioned them for his invasion....but the Germans invaded first.....his horrible decisions decimated the officer ranks through his purges, his orders for his military caused them to lose huge numbers pointlessly, and if not for the U.S. and the allies opening up the Italian front Germany would have beaten him ....

Whatever, guy.

Point is, Russians did most of the fighting and dying in World War II... and then we acted all surprised when they wouldn't give Eastern Europe back.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It would be a easier to take you seriously if you didn't call Gender Dysphoria by the wrong name, or realize that the DSM-V changed the opinion on it to treat people as their identified gender instead of trying to "cure" them.

Yes, my voice to text combined with auto correct messed me up. Gender Dysphoria.

Gender Dysphoria DSM-5 302.85 (F64.9) - Therapedia

www.theravive.com

I read the DSM-V itself, not articles in popular media.

Fortunately treatment options exist that are beneficial for gender dysphoria, and these consist of psychotherapy, pharmacologic therapy, as well as other nonpharmacologic therapies, and sexual reassignment surgery (SRS) (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). Professionals are changing pessimistic attitudes regarding SRS, plus more scientific evidence has shown the benefit of this procedure (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). All the same, it should be stated that SRS does not automatically mean any issue is resolved, and much psychotherapy may be needed after the procedure in order to improve outcome generally (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfaf?in, 2009).

Utter foolishness, but adults are entitled to be foolish.

Just leave them kids alone.