After the Tennessee Shooting, Maybe Now Conservatives Will Turn Against Assault Weapons Because They Hate Transgenders

[2aguy]

Well, no, he probably didn't.

Again, the Bircher figures are kind of laughable when you realize the population of the USSR INCREASED on Stalin's reign.

The population of the USSR was 147 Million in 1926


The population of the USSR in 1959 was 208 Million.

Now, yes, part of that was the annexation of the Baltic states after WWII, but to get to a 61 million person increase despite losing 20 million people in World War II, you realize that the 20 or 50 million people supposedly killed by Stalin is pure bunk.

Moron....

Population russia 1926.....

147,000,000

The Soviet Union: Facts, Descriptions, Statistics — Ch 1

Population Russia, 1958....

116,000,000

Russia Population 1950-2023

Chart and table of Russia population from 1950 to 2023. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.

www.macrotrends.net

Also......R.J. Rummel...

61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered 1917 to 1987

USSR--Genocide and Mass Murder

 

[JoeB131]

I read the DSM-V itself, not articles in popular media.

But you clearly didn't understand it.

Utter foolishness, but adults are entitled to be foolish.

Just leave them kids alone.

Actually, teenage years would probably be the best time for an intervention, before secondary characteristics set in

 

[2aguy]

Whatever, guy.

Point is, Russians did most of the fighting and dying in World War II... and then we acted all surprised when they wouldn't give Eastern Europe back.

No...dipshit....without the U.S. supplying their equipment and fighting the Germans in Africa, Italy, and Western Europe, the stupidity of stalin and the communists would have allowed the national socialists to win....

 

[JoeB131]

Population russia 1926.....

147,000,000

The Soviet Union: Facts, Descriptions, Statistics — Ch 1
Population Russia, 1958....

116,000,000

Wow... I just can't believe you tried to pull that off.

RUSSIA WAS JUST ONE OF MANY REPUBLICS IN THE USSR!

The population of the USSR in 1959 was 208 Million, of which Russians were a little over half.

 

[JoeB131]

No...dipshit....without the U.S. supplying their equipment and fighting the Germans in Africa, Italy, and Western Europe, the stupidity of stalin and the communists would have allowed the national socialists to win....

Except not really. Africa and Italy were merely sideshows, most of the real fighting was going on at the Eastern front.

As far as "Stupidity", uh, we were the ones who got caught with our pants around our ankles in December 1941.

 

[2aguy]

Wow... I just can't believe you tried to pull that off.

RUSSIA WAS JUST ONE OF MANY REPUBLICS IN THE USSR!

The population of the USSR in 1959 was 208 Million, of which Russians were a little over half.

Moron........any increase they had was because they took over other countries...you lying doofus....

 

[2aguy]

Except not really. Africa and Italy were merely sideshows, most of the real fighting was going on at the Eastern front.

As far as "Stupidity", uh, we were the ones who got caught with our pants around our ankles in December 1941.

Moron.....I gave you the history........I'll do it again...

The Germans sustained MASSIVE casualties on the various fronts in which they were compelled to engage the Americans. You see, there was this fellow named General George Patton you may have heard of him whose genius and aggressive tactics gave the German high command many nightmares.


Not only did the Germans have to contend with Patton, but America’s presence meant that Germany’s own greatest General, Erwin Rommel, and millions of his tenacious fighting forces were tied up in Africa and later Italy and France. Had it not been for Americas entry into the war, Britain would have been out of the picture as well. Rommel’s armies would thus have been fighting and tipping the balance against what would have been an under-supplied Red Army on the Eastern front.
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Oh, and by the way need we remind of the utter devastation wreaked upon German industry and German civilians by the “Bomber Boys” of the US & UK Air Forces? Wave upon wave upon wave of Allied heavy bombers mercilessly banged Germany throughout 1943 and 1944. ‘Ya think’ all of that urban destruction, railroad-bombing, refinery bombing, factory bombing, deliberate dam-busting and straight-up primitive warfare might have hindered the German war effort, just a tad? Maybe
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Certainly at key times western allied intervention did much to alleviate considerable pressure for the Russians on the eastern front. The American and British descent on North West Africa in November 1942 forced the Germans to not only deploy scare troops and tanks to Tunisia, but also to occupy Southern France, thus seriously spreading German forces even more thin just right before the Russians launched their powerful counter-attack at Stalingrad.



Likewise the allied invasion of Sicily in July 1943 was extremely problematic for the Germans as they were attempting their last great offensive on the eastern front at Kursk to regain at least some initiative against the Russians. It was in fact the reason why Hitler halted the offensive, which marked the point in the war where the Russians seized and retained the initiative for the rest of the conflict.


Hitler ordered significant formations from the eastern front to the Mediterranean, and while ultimately much of them were not sent, the Germans lost any chance, however small, of winning at Kursk, and thus it could be argued the Western Allies had a significant effect on the result of the battle.


Even the much criticized invasion of Italy had appreciable effects for the Russians. The Germans rightly feared the Italians were poised to switch sides to the allies and they deployed perhaps 20–25 divisions in Italy from mid-1943 to the end of the war.


The invasion also forced the Germans to disarm countless Italian divisions which ultimately amounted to nearly 1 million soldiers in Italy, the Aegean, Greece and Yugoslavia. These soldiers had to be replaced, by German ones, and it is obvious that having to disarm and replace 1 million Axis soldiers, along with considerable amounts of tanks, planes, artillery and other equipment, could be nothing but beneficial to the Russians who fought the lion-share of the German army.
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Finally, the ever increasing threat of a western allied invasion of Western Europe in 1944 forced the Germans to keep significant forces, perhaps 60 divisions and a disproportionate amount of armor, in the west. Hitler was so obsessed with defeating such an invasion that he drained reinforcements to the eastern front and the lack of such forces helped the Russians to inflict perhaps the biggest defeat the Germans suffered during the war in the summer of 1944.


As Nigel Davies noted in a piece regarding misleading statistics for the war “in sheer combat power, the removal of ten percent of divisions (say 20 divisions) from the Eastern Front to face the Western Allies (happened 3 times — Tunisia/Mediterranean 1942, Sicily/Italy 1943, and France 1944) looks a lot more significant if it involves moving 50% of the available Panzers and 70 or 80% of the high quality, full strength, specially equipped, Paratroop or Mountain or Waffen SS divisions.”

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Except that there is nothing about being white, "cisgender" or male that indicates a mental disorder.

Nor is there anything about being a person of color, female or transgender that indicates that.

Being “transgender” is prima facie proof of severe mental disorder.

One has to be pretty seriously fucked in the head to be confused about the difference between male and female, and especially about one's own sex.

 

[Seymour Flops]

But you clearly didn't understand it.

My dude, you wouldn't know the DSM-V if it bit you in the ass.

Actually, teenage years would probably be the best time for an intervention, before secondary characteristics set in

That's the fantasy. Even European countries are realizing what a colossal mistake that is.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron........any increase they had was because they took over other countries...you lying doofus....

Except the only countries they "Took over" were the Baltic States... which had less than a million people each.

Being “transgender” is prima facie proof of severe mental disorder.

One has to be pretty seriously fucked in the head to be confused about the difference between male and female, and especially about one's own sex.

Or their brains are wired differently.

If they hold down jobs and have relationships, they aren't 'disordered".

That's the fantasy. Even European countries are realizing what a colossal mistake that is.

The Europeans have socialized medicine and gun control.. but you don't seem to want those.

 

[2aguy]

Except not really. Africa and Italy were merely sideshows, most of the real fighting was going on at the Eastern front.

As far as "Stupidity", uh, we were the ones who got caught with our pants around our ankles in December 1941.

And because Stalin staged his war material, weapons, vehicles, artillery for the invasion of Poland......the Germans captured all of it when they invaded first..........we had to completely resupply Russia with war material...

1: FDR’s massive, and I mean massive, infusion of Lend-Lease armaments and other essential supplies to the depleted Soviet war machine

2: The diversion of German troops to Africa, Italy, France, the Low Countries, Scandinavia, Greece and Yugoslavia all necessary to block the Anglo-American Alliance from advancing from fronts throughout Europe.

Just how massive was the free arsenal of state-of-the art goodies which the US Shipped to the USSR via never-ending Arctic convoys? Chew on these numbers Revisionists.

• Trucks: 427,284
• Tanks and Combat Vehicles: 13,303
• Aircraft: 11,000
• Bombers: 3,000
• Anti-Aircraft Cannons: 8,000
• Motorcycles: 35,170
• Ordnance Service Vehicles: 2,328
• Radar Systems: 400
• Petroleum Products (gasoline and oil): 2,670,371 tons
• Explosives: 300,000 tons
• Field Radios: 40,000
• Foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.): 4,478,116 tons
• Locomotives & Railway cars: 13,000.
• Tommy Guns (fully automatic machine guns): 135,000
• Metal Cutting Machine Tools: 400,000

An entire tire plant was actually lifted bodily from the Ford Company’s River Rouge Plant and transferred to the USSR. There were also secondary Lend-Lease deliveries from the UK to the USSR, most of which were just re-transfers of US aid given to the UK. More essential goodies: aircraft engines, battleships, destroyers, submarines, mine sweepers, sonar sets, anti-submarine batteries, naval guns, rocket batteries, gear-cutting machines, drilling machines, cast-iron pipes, X-ray tubes, electric furnaces and even essential items such as socks, boots, razors, clothes.
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The left-wing historical revisionism of WW2 is familiar. It lists how many Russians died in the war. It fails to address the fact that they died because

1. Their government allied with the Nazis

2. Their government was controlled by radical leftists who purged the military leadership preventing a viable response

3. Their government’s idea of ‘fighting’ was marching hundreds of thousands of men, some unarmed, directly at the enemy while Communist thugs carrying better weapons marched behind them and shot anyone who tried to flee.

Those thugs also had bad habits, such as carrying out massacres of their own soldiers for assorted political reasons. That and burying alive officers who didn’t perform up to the insane expectations of a war being run by a murderous moron in Moscow who, according to Khrushchev, planned out battles using a globe.

If the USSR had not tried to carve up Eastern Europe, if its brilliant leader hadn’t decided that any competent general threatened him, and if his idea of military strategy or building a highway didn’t involve senselessly killing huge numbers of people, those casualties would not have existed. These casualties don’t prove that the USSR was noble or self-sacrificing. No more than Pol Pot’s murders.
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Russian casualties were so high because the Soviet Union invited Nazi Germany into its backyard, purged its own generals and then threw horrifying numbers of unprepared and, sometimes, unarmed soldiers into combat in massive killing fields that slowed down the German advance with miles of corpses.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The only way you get to the "70 million" figure is if you include anyone who died in a famine.

They called it “The Great Leap Forward”. It created the worst famine, and the worst economic disaster in all of recorded human history.

See that huge spike in deaths, around 1960? That was China. That was The Great Leap Forward. Maybe it's a stretch to call it murder, but at best, it was certainly the result of reckless incompetence in government. If the Chinese Communists didn't willfully intend to murder so many of its own people, it certainly acted with depraved-heart indifference to the likely consequences of the policies that it put forth.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Secondly, while I don't praise Stalin, he did essentially save the world from Hitler, and that should count for something.

Stalin was no better than Hitler. As much as we can thank Stalin for helping to stop Hitler, we equally owe Hitler credit for helping to save the world from Stalin. Stalin survived the war, but he surely was much weaker than he would have been if he hadn't had to spend so much of his country's resources fighting Hitler.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Being “transgender” is prima facie proof of severe mental disorder.

Or their brains are wired differently.

Well, yes, in this case “their brains are wired differently” is just a polite way of saying that they're batshit crazy. So mentally fucked-up that they don't even know the difference between boys and girls, and are confused about which they are. It takes a pretty badly fucked-up mind to achieve that.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Except the only countries they "Took over" were the Baltic States... which had less than a million people each.



Or their brains are wired differently.

If they hold down jobs and have relationships, they aren't 'disordered".


The Europeans have socialized medicine and gun control.. but you don't seem to want those.

No, because I don't want us to be the kind of hellhole that people like you pretend is great but never seem to emigrate to.

The U.S. explosion in "transgender children" is a result of our for-profit medical system, that you don't seem to want, combined with Obamacare requirements that health insurance cover such nonsense, as long a profiteer who specializes in transgenderizing kids gives a diagnosis of the mental disorder of gender dysphoria.

For the overwhelming majority of medical fields, our for-profit system is what makes ours the best in the world. Obamacare, which is government meddling in medicine, changed gender health care into the gender racket.

 

[JoeB131]

And because Stalin staged his war material, weapons, vehicles, artillery for the invasion of Poland......the Germans captured all of it when they invaded first..........we had to completely resupply Russia with war material...

Actually, Russia war production made up most of the USSR's war material.

They called it “The Great Leap Forward”. It created the worst famine, and the worst economic disaster in all of recorded human history.

See that huge spike in deaths, around 1960? That was China. That was The Great Leap Forward. Maybe it's a stretch to call it murder, but at best, it was certainly the result of reckless incompetence in government. If the Chinese Communists didn't willfully intend to murder so many of its own people, it certainly acted with depraved-heart indifference to the likely consequences of the policies that it put forth.

Yes, the Great Leap Forward was awful. And yes, it is a stretch to call it "Murder". While the mismanagement was part of the problem, so were floods and famines that happened at the same time in different regions. So was the fact that China had been isolated by the west and aid wasn't forthcoming.

Stalin was no better than Hitler. As much as we can thank Stalin for helping to stop Hitler, we equally owe Hitler credit for helping to save the world from Stalin. Stalin survived the war, but he surely was much weaker than he would have been if he hadn't had to spend so much of his country's resources fighting Hitler.

Wow, leave it to a Mormon to praise Hitler.

 

[Hollie]

Except the only countries they "Took over" were the Baltic States... which had less than a million people each.



Or their brains are wired differently.

If they hold down jobs and have relationships, they aren't 'disordered".


The Europeans have socialized medicine and gun control.. but you don't seem to want those.

Yes. The rabid leftists safely ensconced in the evil ‘Amrica’ love to flail their Pom Poms for the Stalin’ized version of medicine and gun control.

What a shame that the Stalin’ized version of medicine is not the panacea their Pom Pom flailing would suggest.

Cancelled operations: a 7-day cohort study of planned adult inpatient surgery in 245 UK National Health Service hospitals

Cancellation of planned surgery impacts substantially on patients and health systems. This study describes the incidence and reasons for cancellation …

www.sciencedirect.com

Similarly, the 20th century showed clearly that the Stalin’ized version of gun control (used by all the Stalinist / Leninist regimes), was really just another means of keeping the population under the boot heel of authoritarianism.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes. The rabid leftists safely ensconced in the evil ‘Amrica’ love to flail their Pom Poms for the Stalin’ized version of medicine and gun control.

Or we just look at what other countries are doing right. A fool learns from his own experiences, a wise man learns from the experiences of others.

What a shame that the Stalin’ized version of medicine is not the panacea their Pom Pom flailing would suggest.

Except the have higher life expectancies and lower infant mortality rates.

Not that it's the best example (Germany and Japan have much better systems) but let's compare the US to the UK in health care, shall we?

Well, they spend far less than we do.

Yet they have a lower infant mortality rate.

They have a higher life expectency.

Despite Boris Johnson's ineptitude, the UK did a far better job of containing Covid.

And it goes without saying that a serious illness in the UK doesn't result in your family being wiped out financially as happens in the US.

Similarly, the 20th century showed clearly that the Stalin’ized version of gun control (used by all the Stalinist / Leninist regimes), was really just another means of keeping the population under the boot heel of authoritarianism.

Really? Because not even the most communist countries have the kind of Prison-Industrial complex we have. We lock up more people than China despite only having a fifth of her population.

 

[Hollie]

Or we just look at what other countries are doing right. A fool learns from his own experiences, a wise man learns from the experiences of others.



Except the have higher life expectancies and lower infant mortality rates.

Not that it's the best example (Germany and Japan have much better systems) but let's compare the US to the UK in health care, shall we?

Well, they spend far less than we do.

Yet they have a lower infant mortality rate.

They have a higher life expectency.

Despite Boris Johnson's ineptitude, the UK did a far better job of containing Covid.

And it goes without saying that a serious illness in the UK doesn't result in your family being wiped out financially as happens in the US.



Really? Because not even the most communist countries have the kind of Prison-Industrial complex we have. We lock up more people than China despite only having a fifth of her population.

Your hoped-for Stalinist / Socialist gulags are no examples of what “doing right”. A fool copies the examples of failed societies.

I have to note that the most strenuous Pom Pom flailers for Stalinist / Socialist regimes are those who insist on being safely ensconced in the evil regimes of representative republics. Strange, that.

Yes, let’s compare the US vs. UK healthcare in terms of cost. It may surprise you to learn that healthcare in the UK, and elsewhere, where healthcare is “free”, is not really free. It is provided as a result of income taxes.

If it’s charts and graphs you want….

Related	Last	Unit	Reference
Personal Income Tax Rate	45.00	percent	Dec 2022
Corporate Tax Rate	19.00	percent	Dec 2022
Sales Tax Rate	20.00	percent	Dec 2022
Social Security Rate	31.55	percent	Dec 2022
Social Security Rate For Companies	15.05	percent	Dec 2022
Social Security Rate For Employees	16.50	percent	Dec 2022

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/indicators

Across The Pond: A Comparison of Healthcare Systems in the US and UK – Choate Public Health

– While Britain has one of the largest public sector systems, America is home to the largest private network.

publichealth.choate.edu

Unfortunately, the freedom that universal healthcare provides is hindered by a lack of general practitioners and decreased responsiveness in hospitals. The National Health Service (NHS) of the United Kingdom estimates that in heavily populated areas, twice as many healthcare practitioners are needed. This shortage has resulted in longer wait times ranging from one week to two months.2 Routine diagnostic tests have also been affected by an insufficient number of healthcare providers. According to a recent NHS monthly report, the average British citizen has to wait around two weeks for a relatively simple test like an MRI or CT scan.3 Socialized medicine in the UK may guarantee one’s access to care, but in no way ensures that one receives the care.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Wow, leave it to a Mormon to praise Hitler.

Leave it to the sort of mentally- and ethically- fucked-up freak that everyone knows you to be, to construe it as praise for Hitler, to point out that there have been other murderous tyrants at least as bad as he was. Both Stalin and Mao easily were at least Hitler's equals, as far as murderous tyrants go.