Africans Did Not Do This.

[MisterBeale]

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Legal or illegal?

Legal by their standards

 

[MisterBeale]

That's a really stupid lie.

You saying so, doesn't make it so.

Educated historians and anthropologists know otherwise.

Your woke and political brainwashing, has you living in an alternate reality though.

So of course, it NEEDS to be a lie. Just like a lot of Catholics won't accept the child abuse sex scandals and the corruption in the IOR, or the fact that the Vatican worked with Nazis to ensure its survival. Folks have certain cherished paradigms that are necessary for their sense of self, and their ego, so they have to deny facts and reality.

You go do what you need to.

 

[surada]

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The Arabs didn't have slave ships that could cross the Atlantic. That was the Dutch, English and Portuguese.

North Korea has a lot of slaves.

Which countries have the highest rates of modern slavery and most victims? - World

News and Press Release in English on World about Protection and Human Rights; published on 30 Jul 2018 by Thomson Reuters Foundation

reliefweb.int

 

[surada]

You saying so, doesn't make it so.

Educated historians and anthropologists know otherwise.

Your woke and political brainwashing, has you living in an alternate reality though.

So of course, it NEEDS to be a lie. Just like a lot of Catholic won't accept the child abuse sex scandals and the corruption in the IOR, or the fact that the Vatican worked with Nazis to ensure its survival. Folks have certain cherished paradigms that are necessary for their sense of self, and their ego, so they have to deny fact and reality.

You go do what you need to.

That was the Janissaries in the Ottoman empire... Mostly in Turkey... Not elsewhere.

 

[MisterBeale]

The Arabs didn't have slave ships that could cross the Atlantic. That was the Dutch, English and Portuguese.

North Korea has a lot of slaves.

Which countries have the highest rates of modern slavery and most victims? - World

News and Press Release in English on World about Protection and Human Rights; published on 30 Jul 2018 by Thomson Reuters Foundation

reliefweb.int

Arabs didn't need ships.

They lost hundreds of slaves in the camel caravans crossing the desserts. Anthropologists have unearthed them in digs.

 

[surada]

Arabs didn't need ships.

They lost hundreds of slaves in the camel caravans crossing the desserts. Anthropologists have unearthed them in digs.

Not many Muslims in West Africa. They haven't "unearthed them" in digs.

 

[MisterBeale]

Well, the point of the thread,

"Africans Did Not Do This."​

Is an asinine premise, and it was made to justify the OP's favored political stance, that of socialism.

What he really wants, is UBI, only for his favored victimization class, for wrongs done, well over a century ago? That is a very poor argument, especially when it is documented, that yes, Africans are just as guilty as the English, all Europeans, the merchants, the Arabs, or anyone else on the planet. Including even free blacks in America itself.

Slavery was just a fact of life centuries ago.

Dumb ass thread used as a pretense to grind for partisan politics.

 

[MisterBeale]

Not many Muslims in West Africa. They haven't "unearthed them" in digs.

I am not going to sit here and argue facts with you. You are in denial.

Trade networks existed in antiquity. And they extended into Muslim nations.

 

[surada]

I am not going to sit here and argue facts with you. You are in denial.

Trade networks existed in antiquity. And they extended into Muslim nations.

Yes. .. north and south or by dhow up the Persian Gulf or Red Sea... But not across the Sahara East to West.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Legal or illegal?

does it matter to the slave?

 

[surada]

does it matter to the slave?

I don't know the laws in Brunei or the Congo.. I do know there's illegal slavery even in the US.

 

[MisterBeale]

Yes. .. north and south or by dhow up the Persian Gulf or Red Sea... But not across the Sahara East to West.

The Barbaries went all over hell and high water. Who the hell do you think you are talking to?

I don't know why you are denying history and facts. This is like having an argument with a flat Earther. I suppose you believe that they were the good guys, when America finally came and took care of them, when the Europeans would not?

The Muslims enslaved EVERYONE that did not believe what they did. Those fanatics would chop the nuts off anyone that was foreign, and put them in chains.

The US marines put an end to that shit.

Barbary corsairs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Barbary treaties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What do you think, "To the shores of Tripoli?" Refers to, and why do you think the US president sent them there for? FUN?

Why are you even arguing about this on an American forum? To prove you are an anti-American piece of shit, and you don't know history? Why?

 

[MizMolly]

No, I'll ask the white Americans who bred 3.6 million blacks to use as slaves, then implemented apartheid and who still practice systemic racism against blacks.

You can’t ask dead people and you imagine systemic racism to keep yourself from living in this century.

 

[surada]

The Barbaries went all over hell and high water. Who the hell do you think you are talking to?

I don't know why you are denying history and facts. This is like having an argument with a flat Earther. I suppose you believe that they were the good guys, when America finally came and took care of them, when the Europeans would not?

The Muslims enslaved EVERYONE that did not believe what they did. Those fanatics would chop the nuts off anyone that was foreign, and put them in chains.

The US marines put an end to that shit.

Barbary corsairs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Barbary treaties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What do you think, "To the shores of Tripoli?" Refers to, and why do you think the US president sent them there for? FUN?

Why are you even arguing about this on an American forum? To prove you are an anti-American piece of shit, and you don't know history? Why?

Most of the Barbary pirates were Europeans who'd lost their letters of marque and made their home ports along the coast of Libya.

 

[IM2]

No, they didn't. A few hundred thousand DEMOCRATS did that. Go argue with them.

A republican tried making slavery a constitutional right, a republican made a compromise that ended reconstruction, 4 republicans out of 7 yes votes by the SCOTUS made apartheid the law of the land. So I will all parties who keep making excuses and lying.

 

[IM2]

Most of the Barbary pirates were Europeans who'd lost their letters of marque and made their home ports along the coast of Libya.

Interesting.

 

[IM2]

No excuses are necessary.

No living white American has ever owned a slave.

No living black American has ever been a slave.

If black people deserve reparations from the American government, than I with Irish ancestry deserve reparations from the United Kingdom.

It’s all ridiculous.

Then stop making excuses because white racism didn't stop after slavery and the Irish were not slaves in America. So if you are owed by the U.K. go to the U.K. government that Irish people chose to be part of and demand reparations.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Most of the Barbary pirates were Europeans who'd lost their letters of marque and made their home ports along the coast of Libya.

Horse shit why in the fuck was the treaty of tripoli written in Arabic?
Avalon Project - The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816 - Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November 4, 1796

 

[RetiredGySgt]

A republican tried making slavery a constitutional right, a republican made a compromise that ended reconstruction, 4 republicans out of 7 yes votes by the SCOTUS made apartheid the law of the land. So I will all parties who keep making excuses and lying.

Liar