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Is that why we armed them with NUCLEAR weapons ?so? it was still a mistake. -----mujahideen is the 1980s name
for Taliban. Taliban is PAKISTANIS-------a kind of paramilitary jihadi
group hell-bent on creating an Islamic state out of Afghanistan. The
situation attracted such luminaries as---Osama bin Laden. Infighting is life
in Pakistan
Yes, I responded to that. 1979 was all Carter.Carter couldn't stir his oatmeal without permission, and he hated the CIA.Reagan was not president in 1979? Of course, if blame must be placed it is placed on those who began the conflict. 1979 makes that person Carter.Our Republicans hero Reagan not only destroyed the economy but created our enemy.
( I'll bet they blame Carter, Clinton and Obama )
Operation Cyclone - Wikipedia
Operation Cyclone was the code name for theUnited States Central Intelligence Agency(CIA) program to arm and finance themujahideen, in Afghanistan from 1979 to ........
Carter also got our Ambassador murdered in Afghanistan. Your idea of "what a great place", is not based on any sort of reality.
The Assassination of Ambassador Spike Dubs - Kabul, 1979 - Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training
On February 14, 1979, Dubs was kidnapped by armed militants posing as police. The kidnappers demanded the release of the imprisoned leader of their party. Hafizullah Amin’s government refused to negotiate with the militants. Dubs was then assassinated
Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) program to arm and finance the mujahideen, in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989.
Excuse me ? Carter took over following 15 years of the Vietnam War, arguably one of our greatest screw-ups.Carter really screwed up a lot in 4 years.
Is that why we armed them with NUCLEAR weapons ?so? it was still a mistake. -----mujahideen is the 1980s name
for Taliban. Taliban is PAKISTANIS-------a kind of paramilitary jihadi
group hell-bent on creating an Islamic state out of Afghanistan. The
situation attracted such luminaries as---Osama bin Laden. Infighting is life
in Pakistan
That's right. Thanks to the sheer brilliance of US foreign policy, Pakistan, India, Israel and probably Saudi Arabia all have nuclear weapons, and don't try to say it's not a big deal or else why are we so worried about NK and Iran ?
9/11 wasn't our wake up call. Should have been, but it wasn't.
I was listening to 'the torture guy's story about capturing Abu Zubaydah in Pakistan....pretty crazy stuff.we did not arm India and Pakistan and Israel with nuclear weapons----they developed them. If Saudi Arabia wants them, they can get them. Its not
a big deal. Iran having Nuclear weapons is a big deal because Iran is
very imperialistic. ----- I did not refer to the 9-11-01 atrocity as a "wake up
call" I had awakened long before that------circa 1970 when I was invited
to attend a mosque and came into contact with lots of muslims from muslim
countries
themselves. Afghanistan does not have nuclear weapons
I'm intrigued that Angelo has read all those eastern and western histories and know all about how wrong the West's are. He's a real Skolur, that guy.
That would be the Democrat war? Against communism?Excuse me ? Carter took over following 15 years of the Vietnam War, arguably one of our greatest screw-ups.Carter really screwed up a lot in 4 years.
That would be the Democrat war? Against communism?
What happened to President Nixon and President Ford?
My god, you are so fucking stupid, the only thing anybody should post in reply to you, is, "wow, you really are stupid"
you certainly prove yourself the worst of peopleResorting to syi's.
I do bring out the best and worst in people .
Good reaction spin. You're almost as original as my Netflix-watching wife.you certainly prove yourself the worst of people
The Soviets were NEVER our allies against Hitler. Name one thing the Soviets provided to the Western Allies. They provided no bases, they provided no raw materials, they refused to allow Western Allied aircraft, sea or land forces to be based in the Soviet Union or it's occupied territories and they reneged on all of their post war promises. The Soviets were co-belligerents who took massive bribes from the UK and USA not to make a separate peace with Nazi Germany and refused to declare war against Japan until the Western Allies (mostly the USA and Australia) had already won the war. The Soviets fought their own war against Germany (which they had no choice about) since Germany wasn't going to allow anything but a neutered Vichy-like Soviet Union to survive as a economic and military vassal state.So think about it. We were duped into a BS Cold War just like we are again now at a timeSo why were we there ? What if the USSR had decided to help Mexico win a war in Texas ?Well, first off, we were not the only ones backing the mujahideen. Other Arab nations, especially Saudi Arabia, were providing huge amounts of aid to them. So was Pakistan.
Because on the map that would be a pretty accurate comparison.
You can toss around all the hypothetical what-ifs imaginable but they won't changeIf the Soviets had remained in control of Afghanistan, what would have happened after the Soviet Union collapsed? Do you think things would have been markedly different if the Soviets had controlled Afghanistan until the Soviet Union collapsed?
the fact that Osama bin Laden was right about America's wars bankrupting us. Since the "War On Terror" began,
the United States National Debt has grown by $18 Trillion .
the USA is not bankrupted-----however you have touched on the methods
of Islamic terrorism. --------it all boils down to economic siege. The
War On Terrorism is resistance to Islamic economic siege. "what would
have happened if the SOVIETS had held on to Afghanistan until it collapsed"--
is an interesting question but does not alter the fact that BACK THEN in the
1980s, Washington sought to avoid that situation by facilitating the
TALIBAN ----------it was a mistake-----SO?
when the Russians were our allies against Hitler, they could be our allies against Islamic extremists . And the Chinese.
The Soviets were NEVER our allies against Hitler. Name one thing the Soviets provided to the Western Allies. They provided no bases, they provided no raw materials, they refused to allow Western Allied aircraft, sea or land forces to be based in the Soviet Union or it's occupied territories and they reneged on all of their post war promises. The Soviets were co-belligerents who took massive bribes from the UK and USA not to make a separate peace with Nazi Germany and refused to declare war against Japan until the Western Allies (mostly the USA and Australia) had already won the war. The Soviets fought their own war against Germany (which they had no choice about) since Germany wasn't going to allow anything but a neutered Vichy-like Soviet Union to survive as a economic and military vassal state.So think about it. We were duped into a BS Cold War just like we are again now at a timeSo why were we there ? What if the USSR had decided to help Mexico win a war in Texas ?Well, first off, we were not the only ones backing the mujahideen. Other Arab nations, especially Saudi Arabia, were providing huge amounts of aid to them. So was Pakistan.
Because on the map that would be a pretty accurate comparison.
You can toss around all the hypothetical what-ifs imaginable but they won't changeIf the Soviets had remained in control of Afghanistan, what would have happened after the Soviet Union collapsed? Do you think things would have been markedly different if the Soviets had controlled Afghanistan until the Soviet Union collapsed?
the fact that Osama bin Laden was right about America's wars bankrupting us. Since the "War On Terror" began,
the United States National Debt has grown by $18 Trillion .
the USA is not bankrupted-----however you have touched on the methods
of Islamic terrorism. --------it all boils down to economic siege. The
War On Terrorism is resistance to Islamic economic siege. "what would
have happened if the SOVIETS had held on to Afghanistan until it collapsed"--
is an interesting question but does not alter the fact that BACK THEN in the
1980s, Washington sought to avoid that situation by facilitating the
TALIBAN ----------it was a mistake-----SO?
when the Russians were our allies against Hitler, they could be our allies against Islamic extremists . And the Chinese.
If you say so.The Soviets were NEVER our allies against Hitler. Name one thing the Soviets provided to the Western Allies. They provided no bases, they provided no raw materials, they refused to allow Western Allied aircraft, sea or land forces to be based in the Soviet Union or it's occupied territories and they reneged on all of their post war promises. The Soviets were co-belligerents who took massive bribes from the UK and USA not to make a separate peace with Nazi Germany and refused to declare war against Japan until the Western Allies (mostly the USA and Australia) had already won the war. The Soviets fought their own war against Germany (which they had no choice about) since Germany wasn't going to allow anything but a neutered Vichy-like Soviet Union to survive as a economic and military vassal state.So think about it. We were duped into a BS Cold War just like we are again now at a timeSo why were we there ? What if the USSR had decided to help Mexico win a war in Texas ?Well, first off, we were not the only ones backing the mujahideen. Other Arab nations, especially Saudi Arabia, were providing huge amounts of aid to them. So was Pakistan.
Because on the map that would be a pretty accurate comparison.
You can toss around all the hypothetical what-ifs imaginable but they won't changeIf the Soviets had remained in control of Afghanistan, what would have happened after the Soviet Union collapsed? Do you think things would have been markedly different if the Soviets had controlled Afghanistan until the Soviet Union collapsed?
the fact that Osama bin Laden was right about America's wars bankrupting us. Since the "War On Terror" began,
the United States National Debt has grown by $18 Trillion .
the USA is not bankrupted-----however you have touched on the methods
of Islamic terrorism. --------it all boils down to economic siege. The
War On Terrorism is resistance to Islamic economic siege. "what would
have happened if the SOVIETS had held on to Afghanistan until it collapsed"--
is an interesting question but does not alter the fact that BACK THEN in the
1980s, Washington sought to avoid that situation by facilitating the
TALIBAN ----------it was a mistake-----SO?
when the Russians were our allies against Hitler, they could be our allies against Islamic extremists . And the Chinese.
www.independent.co.uk
US policy in the middle east has been a disaster for decades. Doesnt matter who sits in the WH the policy has always been a shit show.
US policy in the middle east has been a disaster for decades. Doesnt matter who sits in the WH the policy has always been a shit show.
So let them have at it. Maybe Russia should come to Portland and straighten things out there ?....they were fighting and killing each other before the Russians and US got involved
