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Colin norris

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1. it was the right thing to do to go in there
2. if any POTUS is at fault, it's Obama---should've pulled out under his admin
I never said it wasn't the right thing to go there. I said it was a failure.
Of course you would blame as Democrat.
You're just another brain dead redneck ratbag Republican.

Anyway, since your the expert, perhaps you might to to comment on the other points if they are totally wrong.
 

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I think all death are on tramp, he made the deal with the devil. (like he always does)
You can think what you want, but reality says Xiden caused and is responsible for the catastrophe in AFG.
Even the democrats are sharpening their knives. Et tu Nancy?
 

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Let's go back a bit and get some facts straight. Leave the emotion and partisanship to one side.
The original reasonsgiven to go there was to support democracy and stop terrorist threats. Both worthy cause. It failed.
In 2014 NATO pulled out because they also saw the stupidity of it but not america. They intended to bully the Taliban. That failed.
Consequently the Taliban gained ground, as expected. Another failure to stop them.

Under trump in 2020 the withdrawal was discussed with Afghanis etc.
Why would the result be any different between then and now?
Trump discontinued that and chose to keep bullying the Taliban. That failed.

Now you are all bellowing about how joe wanting the troops home after 20 years of nothing, as if his decision has caused a defeat. Grow up.

89 billion was spent on training the Afghan army and they never fired a shot. They scampered into the Taliban camps and hid in the hills etc. That's appears to keep with the trend of another failure.

There is No doubt America misunderstood the mindset of Afghanistan people. They will never conede to any international bully. They cleverly tricked us into training and encouraged us to so tenderly gift them weapons with which to fight again.
That worked well.

Only a fool would attempt to justify remaining there. the recovery of troops and civilians is underway contrary to what all you Biden haters are saying. You are liars.

On npr.com is conversations with people who were there and overwhelmingly support the pull out.
In fact, only 37% favoured going there in the first place. 80% approved of Obama pulling out in 2014. That failed also.
For what it's worth 52% strongly approved.
They're disappointed also.

You can rant and throw shit on Biden all you like. He's he only one with the courage to pull out but you rabid republicans call him weak and it was a disaster. Rubbish.
Like Liz Cheney calling trump the idiot he was, the country needs more people with guts. Not wimps like you idiots who only want to score political points as if will win the election.

Ask yourselves this.
What would you have done after 20 years 2 trillion wasted for nothing?
How many more troops to be killed is enough?
Is America the ruler of the world after being defeated by a rat tag mob of hill billies?
And, honestly, when our troops etc are out of there, which they will be, do you really care about those ratbags and their hideous religion? Of course you don't.
You didn't while we were killing them.

Let all that soak in. We were defeated and there's no way of hiding it.
Why didn't your boy Obama pull them out after offing Bin laden? I have nothing personal against Joe. Except for the fact that he's an old, incompetent, mind-blown socialist fool.
 

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Let's go back a bit and get some facts straight. Leave the emotion and partisanship to one side.
The original reasonsgiven to go there was to support democracy and stop terrorist threats. Both worthy cause. It failed.
In 2014 NATO pulled out because they also saw the stupidity of it but not america. They intended to bully the Taliban. That failed.
Consequently the Taliban gained ground, as expected. Another failure to stop them.

Under trump in 2020 the withdrawal was discussed with Afghanis etc.
Why would the result be any different between then and now?
Trump discontinued that and chose to keep bullying the Taliban. That failed.

Now you are all bellowing about how joe wanting the troops home after 20 years of nothing, as if his decision has caused a defeat. Grow up.

89 billion was spent on training the Afghan army and they never fired a shot. They scampered into the Taliban camps and hid in the hills etc. That's appears to keep with the trend of another failure.

There is No doubt America misunderstood the mindset of Afghanistan people. They will never conede to any international bully. They cleverly tricked us into training and encouraged us to so tenderly gift them weapons with which to fight again.
That worked well.

Only a fool would attempt to justify remaining there. the recovery of troops and civilians is underway contrary to what all you Biden haters are saying. You are liars.

On npr.com is conversations with people who were there and overwhelmingly support the pull out.
In fact, only 37% favoured going there in the first place. 80% approved of Obama pulling out in 2014. That failed also.
For what it's worth 52% strongly approved.
They're disappointed also.

You can rant and throw shit on Biden all you like. He's he only one with the courage to pull out but you rabid republicans call him weak and it was a disaster. Rubbish.
Like Liz Cheney calling trump the idiot he was, the country needs more people with guts. Not wimps like you idiots who only want to score political points as if will win the election.

Ask yourselves this.
What would you have done after 20 years 2 trillion wasted for nothing?
How many more troops to be killed is enough?
Is America the ruler of the world after being defeated by a rat tag mob of hill billies?
And, honestly, when our troops etc are out of there, which they will be, do you really care about those ratbags and their hideous religion? Of course you don't.
You didn't while we were killing them.

Let all that soak in. We were defeated and there's no way of hiding it.

Let what soak in? All of that horse manure? Nobody I know disagrees with the pull out, we have issues with the way he did it, ore specifically the way he didn't do it. He is hiding right now because American's, other than idiots like you know that he completely screwed the pooch here.
 

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no president has been tougher on the taliban than Joe Biden, folks

he's got them on the run...we've got 'em right where we want 'em, my friends!
 

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Let's go back a bit and get some facts straight. Leave the emotion and partisanship to one side.
The original reasonsgiven to go there was to support democracy and stop terrorist threats. Both worthy cause. It failed.
In 2014 NATO pulled out because they also saw the stupidity of it but not america. They intended to bully the Taliban. That failed.
Consequently the Taliban gained ground, as expected. Another failure to stop them.

Under trump in 2020 the withdrawal was discussed with Afghanis etc.
Why would the result be any different between then and now?
Trump discontinued that and chose to keep bullying the Taliban. That failed.

Now you are all bellowing about how joe wanting the troops home after 20 years of nothing, as if his decision has caused a defeat. Grow up.

89 billion was spent on training the Afghan army and they never fired a shot. They scampered into the Taliban camps and hid in the hills etc. That's appears to keep with the trend of another failure.

There is No doubt America misunderstood the mindset of Afghanistan people. They will never conede to any international bully. They cleverly tricked us into training and encouraged us to so tenderly gift them weapons with which to fight again.
That worked well.

Only a fool would attempt to justify remaining there. the recovery of troops and civilians is underway contrary to what all you Biden haters are saying. You are liars.

On npr.com is conversations with people who were there and overwhelmingly support the pull out.
In fact, only 37% favoured going there in the first place. 80% approved of Obama pulling out in 2014. That failed also.
For what it's worth 52% strongly approved.
They're disappointed also.

You can rant and throw shit on Biden all you like. He's he only one with the courage to pull out but you rabid republicans call him weak and it was a disaster. Rubbish.
Like Liz Cheney calling trump the idiot he was, the country needs more people with guts. Not wimps like you idiots who only want to score political points as if will win the election.

Ask yourselves this.
What would you have done after 20 years 2 trillion wasted for nothing?
How many more troops to be killed is enough?
Is America the ruler of the world after being defeated by a rat tag mob of hill billies?
And, honestly, when our troops etc are out of there, which they will be, do you really care about those ratbags and their hideous religion? Of course you don't.
You didn't while we were killing them.

Let all that soak in. We were defeated and there's no way of hiding it.

Biden fucked up so badly he needs to be immediately removed from office!

For the past 18 months we had a force of 3,500 troops maintaining the peace!!! They took NO CASUALITIES!!!

We have way more that that in Germany.

Please unfuck yourself
 
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Let what soak in? All of that horse manure? Nobody I know disagrees with the pull out, we have issues with the way he did it, ore specifically the way he didn't do it. He is hiding right now because American's, other than idiots like you know that he completely screwed the pooch here.
Ok then. How would you have done it when trump had exactly the same plan. You never rejected to that. Why now the hypocrisy. When is the best time to leave there? he has currently lifted 7000 troops and civilians in 5days. where's thebmiatake in that strategy?

Don't spray me with your hideous childish hatred because it was a Democrat decision.
Your whole criticism is based on the same old hatred of dems you are paranoid about. admit it. If trump did it you would approving of the strategy. You hypocrite.
If you suggesting he is hiding from the press, why would he? It's the same left wing press you all screamed about when they questioned trump but now they've suddenly changed to be right winged. How coincidental .
 

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Ok then. How would you have done it when trump had exactly the same plan. You never rejected to that. Why now the hypocrisy. When is the best time to leave there? he has currently lifted 7000 troops and civilians in 5days. where's thebmiatake in that strategy?

Don't spray me with your hideous childish hatred because it was a Democrat decision.
Your whole criticism is based on the same old hatred of dems you are paranoid about. admit it. If trump did it you would approving of the strategy. You hypocrite.
If you suggesting he is hiding from the press, why would he? It's the same left wing press you all screamed about when they questioned trump but now they've suddenly changed to be right winged. How coincidental .

Get rid of the Rump crap, I was never a Rump supporter. You're enmeshed in the binary system, I'm not. You really are an ugly little man.
You don't TELL an "enemy" you're leaving without a plan to get your people out. You don't leave Billions of dollars of weaponry still operable knowing that it WILL be used by the enemy.
 

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I never said it wasn't the right thing to go there. I said it was a failure.
Of course you would blame as Democrat.
You're just another brain dead redneck ratbag Republican.

Anyway, since your the expert, perhaps you might to to comment on the other points if they are totally wrong.
hahhahahaha---not a failure -until now..I will have a thread on wars to give you a lesson
 

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Let's go back a bit and get some facts straight. Leave the emotion and partisanship to one side.
The original reasonsgiven to go there was to support democracy and stop terrorist threats. Both worthy cause. It failed.
In 2014 NATO pulled out because they also saw the stupidity of it but not america. They intended to bully the Taliban. That failed.
Consequently the Taliban gained ground, as expected. Another failure to stop them.

Under trump in 2020 the withdrawal was discussed with Afghanis etc.
Why would the result be any different between then and now?
Trump discontinued that and chose to keep bullying the Taliban. That failed.

Now you are all bellowing about how joe wanting the troops home after 20 years of nothing, as if his decision has caused a defeat. Grow up.

89 billion was spent on training the Afghan army and they never fired a shot. They scampered into the Taliban camps and hid in the hills etc. That's appears to keep with the trend of another failure.

There is No doubt America misunderstood the mindset of Afghanistan people. They will never conede to any international bully. They cleverly tricked us into training and encouraged us to so tenderly gift them weapons with which to fight again.
That worked well.

Only a fool would attempt to justify remaining there. the recovery of troops and civilians is underway contrary to what all you Biden haters are saying. You are liars.

On npr.com is conversations with people who were there and overwhelmingly support the pull out.
In fact, only 37% favoured going there in the first place. 80% approved of Obama pulling out in 2014. That failed also.
For what it's worth 52% strongly approved.
They're disappointed also.

You can rant and throw shit on Biden all you like. He's he only one with the courage to pull out but you rabid republicans call him weak and it was a disaster. Rubbish.
Like Liz Cheney calling trump the idiot he was, the country needs more people with guts. Not wimps like you idiots who only want to score political points as if will win the election.

Ask yourselves this.
What would you have done after 20 years 2 trillion wasted for nothing?
How many more troops to be killed is enough?
Is America the ruler of the world after being defeated by a rat tag mob of hill billies?
And, honestly, when our troops etc are out of there, which they will be, do you really care about those ratbags and their hideous religion? Of course you don't.
You didn't while we were killing them.

Let all that soak in. We were defeated and there's no way of hiding it.
Let's not get partisan, but Trump screwed up and Biden is courageous. :auiqs.jpg:

STFU, hack.
 

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Xiden caused and is responsible

How did Biden cause the Afghan Army to collapse in days? Three Presidents armed and trained them for umpteen years. That is a colossal failure for both parties.

Putin Smiles.
 

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Anyone who has read anything about Afg knows that loyalties shift on a daily basis.

And that’s exactly what happened here. They are a “nation” in name only. What they are is a bunch of warring clans with constantly shifting loyalties
 

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Under trump in 2020 the withdrawal was discussed with Afghanis etc.
Why would the result be any different between then and now?

No matter how badly you want this to be the case, it didn't happen. What happened is that Joe Biden, because he's mentally incapacitated, made a horrific decision to abandon Afghanistan with no plan for helping the thousands of Americans now stuck in the country, or the millions of (mostly women and children) Afghans who will be raped, tortured, and murdered by the Taliban. That's what actually happened, and every single Biden supporter is guilty.
 

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How did Biden cause the Afghan Army to collapse in days? Three Presidents armed and trained them for umpteen years. That is a colossal failure for both parties.

Putin Smiles.
Because Progs told us they know better. Remember all the laughing with Trump? in several months we are turning into a basket case. Trump told us how to become richer. More of us. Your Prog leaders are death knells. The newer ones like Stacey Abrams are going to have millions of skulls lined up all; over the areas she controls. Power by stealing and getting away with it because of accusations of racism, bigotry and more is not going to be good for a newly empowered potentate. The Soviet Union had power there before. Let them pay for it. We could be out of there or have a minimum of military and civilians people stationed in the region if we become self sufficient in oil again.
 

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Let what soak in? All of that horse manure? Nobody I know disagrees with the pull out, we have issues with the way he did it, ore specifically the way he didn't do it. He is hiding right now because American's, other than idiots like you know that he completely screwed the pooch here.
No one disagrees with the pullout?

There is no clean way to do that when the indigenous army and government collapses
 

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