About Those J6 “People”

[Political-Junkie]

It was sure a weird election.

That's not a number. Don't you have one? Even an estimate?

 

[Political-Junkie]

You asked me how much of it Biden had reviewed so obviously you are unsure of what Biden did with the files. You didn't really care at the time anyway. One of two ways it could have went with Biden, either he was too lazy to look at them or he was hiding something. Which do you think it is? He was your guy, would you be screaming like this if he had been reelected?

Asking you if you know what Epstein files the Biden DOJ reviewed in no way implies they didn't review any of it. And it's true I didn't think much about it while Bush was president, or Obama, or Trump's 1st term, or even his 2nd term, until he refused to release everything after saying he would and Pam Bondi running cover for him saying there was nothing else to release when there was. What I care about is the cover-up.

 

[Delldude]

You're mistaken, I never said it happened at like 4 or 5. Though I'll say it now since it did, the first time those were used was at 1:40.

And yeah, you changed the time to 1:00 because your link didn't say what you claimed, multiple times. But not only did you change the time 1:00, you posted a video as evidence which didn't even come from your earlier link.

So here's the video you posted saying it was the start of police activity, but it also doesn't show it started at 1:00.

Why you dancing you clown?

 

[Delldude]

Asking you if you know what Epstein files the Biden DOJ reviewed in no way implies they didn't review any of it.

DUH

During the Biden administration, the Department of Justice (DOJ) maintained an open grand jury and ongoing appeal for the Jeffrey Epstein case, resulting in no public release of the Epstein files during that time. Because the files were an active investigation, the DOJ utilized the records internally.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20260211/118951/HHRG-119-JU00-20260211-SD013.pdf

Not revealed yet they had it and could have.

 

[Alweysrite!]

You're mistaken, I never said it happened at like 4 or 5. Though I'll say it now since it did, the first time those were used was at 1:40.

And yeah, you changed the time to 1:00 because your link didn't say what you claimed, multiple times. But not only did you change the time 1:00, you posted a video as evidence which didn't even come from your earlier link.

So here's the video you posted saying it was the start of police activity, but it also doesn't show it started at 1:00.

Flash bangs into a peaceful crowd. Way to go Skippy

 

[Political-Junkie]

Days Before the Attack: Sund testified to the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration that he requested National Guard assistance from the Capitol Police Board on January 3, 2021. He stated that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving (who reported to Pelosi) denied the request, citing concerns about "optics".

https://www.rules.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/BA0E3F52-5056-A066-6078-13F30593703C/Testimony_Sund.pdf

Why do you add your own text that isn't there? You added how Irving reported to Pelosi as though she was involved with the decision to reject NG when Irving actually said he made the call.

Mr. Irving stated that he was concerned about the “optics” of having National Guard present and didn’t feel that the intelligence supported it.

You also seem to have missed this part.

He referred me to the Senate Sergeant at Arms (who is currently the Chair of the CPB) to get his thoughts on the request. I then spoke to Mr. Stenger and again requested the National Guard. Instead of approving the use of the National Guard, however, Mr. Stenger suggested I ask them how quickly we could get support if needed and to “lean forward” in case we had to request assistance on January 6.

So why are you blaming the Speaker of the House but not the Senate Majority Leader? Is it because the former is a Democrat while the latter is a Republican?

 

[Alweysrite!]

That's not a number. Don't you have one? Even an estimate?

I really don't know. I think 81 million is ridiculous and there is no way that he received that many

 

[Political-Junkie]

Post 2595 for openers.

“Pentagon leadership prioritized concerns of optics over their duty to protect lives,” said Chairman Loudermilk. “President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders and directed them to make sure any events on January 6, 2021 were safe. It is very concerning that these Senior Pentagon officials ignored President Trump’s guidance AND misled Congressional Leaders to believe they were doing their job, when they were not. The DoD IG’s report is fundamentally flawed. It does not draw conclusions from the interviews they conducted, but pushes a narrative to keep their hands clean. We have many questions for them, and we will continue to dig until we are satisfied the American people know the truth."

Transcripts Show President Trump's Directives to Pentagon Leadership to "Keep January 6 Safe" Were Deliberately Ignored

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

Here's what you posted.

President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders and directed them to make sure any events on January 6, 2021 were safe.

Was Pelosi a "senior Pentagon leader?"

Like I said, there's no evidence Pelosi rejected Trump's "offer" of 10,000 NG.

 

[Alweysrite!]

Asking you if you know what Epstein files the Biden DOJ reviewed in no way implies they didn't review any of it. And it's true I didn't think much about it while Bush was president, or Obama, or Trump's 1st term, or even his 2nd term, until he refused to release everything after saying he would and Pam Bondi running cover for him saying there was nothing else to release when there was. What I care about is the cover-up.

Yeah you didn't care about the files when Biden was president. Only when it was opportunistic to try and "get Trump". You are a hypocrite, you don't care what Democrats do only what Trump does. Thanks for admitting it. Now that everything has been released that can be under the law are you going to shut up about it?

 

[Political-Junkie]

Flash bangs into a peaceful crowd. Way to go Skippy

Not at the time you claimed.

Not at the time you changed it to.

And used to disperse an unlawful crowd.

Did you complain about police using anti-riot mtheods to disperse a peaceful protest at Lafayette Square in 2020?

 

[Alweysrite!]

Here's what you posted.

President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders and directed them to make sure any events on January 6, 2021 were safe.

Was Pelosi a "senior Pentagon leader?"

Like I said, there's no evidence Pelosi rejected Trump's "offer" of 10,000 NG.

• The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader — on Jan. 6, Sen. Mitch McConnell.
• News reports indicate that in the days before the attack, House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of "optics." Irving later testified that intelligence reports didn’t show the need for the extra security, not that he rejected it because of optics.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Yeah you didn't care about the files when Biden was president. Only when it was opportunistic to try and "get Trump". You are a hypocrite, you don't care what Democrats do only what Trump does. Thanks for admitting it. Now that everything has been released that can be under the law are you going to shut up about it?

If I was a hypocrite, I would have been calling for them to be used to catch Trump in his first term. I didn't, just like I didn't with Biden. Or I would have been calling for them in his second term before Bondi lied about there not being anymore. I didn't. Now there's an apparent cover-up. That's what I want exposed.

 

[Political-Junkie]

• The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader — on Jan. 6, Sen. Mitch McConnell.
• News reports indicate that in the days before the attack, House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of "optics." Irving later testified that intelligence reports didn’t show the need for the extra security, not that he rejected it because of optics.

I still haven't seen where Irving blamed Pelosi for not wanting NG.

 

[Alweysrite!]

Not at the time you claimed.

Not at the time you changed it to.

And used to disperse an unlawful crowd.

Did you complain about police using anti-riot mtheods to disperse a peaceful protest at Lafayette Square in 2020?

You're missing the point, flash bangs into a peaceful crowd. No matter what the time it's wrong.
so you're saying it's okay to use the flash bangs at the Capitol for the peaceful crowd but not at Lafayette Park?

 

[Delldude]

President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders and directed them to make sure any events on January 6, 2021 were safe.

Was Pelosi a "senior Pentagon leader?"

What does any of that have to do with Pelosi ?

So why are you blaming the Speaker of the House but not the Senate Majority Leader? Is it because the former is a Democrat while the latter is a Republican?

Blame? They were both complicit. You think speakers of both houses don't converse about security issues on the federal campus?

Why do you add your own text that isn't there? You added how Irving reported to Pelosi as though she was involved with the decision to reject NG when Irving actually said he made the call.

Directly from the transcript......

 

[Political-Junkie]

You're missing the point, flash bangs into a peaceful crowd. No matter what the time it's wrong.
so you're saying it's okay to use the flash bangs at the Capitol for the peaceful crowd but not at Lafayette Park?

Not true. That crowd was there unlawfully. Police were allowed to use their tools to disperse them. That wasn't a green light for protesters to assault police. Assaulting police is a crime. The difference in Lafayette Square is that those protesters were there legally.

 

[Political-Junkie]

What does any of that have to do with Pelosi ?


Blame? They were both complicit. You think speakers of both houses don't converse about security issues on the federal campus?

Directly from the transcript......

Because the claim I'm disputing is that Pelosi turned down an offer by Trump to have 10,000 NG.

Yet the only leader being blamed by the right was Pelosi. For some reason, they right never blames the Republican leader. Regardless, I've seen no evidence the 2 Sergeant at Arms discussed having NG with their respective leaders.

 

[Delldude]

That crowd was there unlawfully.

Debatable. Video evidence of portable fences being dropped prior to moving to the outside of the capitol by unknown parties.

The difference in Lafayette Square is that those protesters were there legally.

They were ordered to leave by USSS.

Because the claim I'm disputing is that Pelosi turned down an offer by Trump to have 10,000 NG.

No one said she turned down an offer of 10k. I don't think there was any offer regarding her to that amount.
The issue was military being deployed in and around DC sending the wrong message. Bowser was on board also.
There is a letter from Bowser discussing it.

 

[Alweysrite!]

If I was a hypocrite, I would have been calling for them to be used to catch Trump in his first term. I didn't, just like I didn't with Biden. Or I would have been calling for them in his second term before Bondi lied about there not being anymore. I didn't. Now there's an apparent cover-up. That's what I want exposed.

Right, you didn't care about the files until you thought you could use them to get Trump. That means you're a hypocrite

 

[Alweysrite!]

Because the claim I'm disputing is that Pelosi turned down an offer by Trump to have 10,000 NG.

Yet the only leader being blamed by the right was Pelosi. For some reason, they right never blames the Republican leader. Regardless, I've seen no evidence the 2 Sergeant at Arms discussed having NG with their respective leaders.

The Sergeant at Arms reported directly to Pelosi. That means she was his boss.