About those EV's and the Environment

[Delldude]

Yeah, and the state utility is asking businesses to reduce electricity use.

Is this the first time on record?

 

[otto105]

Is this the first time on record?

No, they did several times before when the grid froze in winter.

 

[Delldude]

No, they did several times before when the grid froze in winter.

No, did this happen before during high heat?

 

[otto105]

I hope they sell a shit load so that in 6 to 7 years we can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth that follows. You should buy a true EV and get rid of that fossil fuel Prius masquerading as an EV. But you won't because you know better.

yeah, no so much.

How long does a electric vehicles battery last?

10-20 years

Thankfully, experts suggest that EV batteries will typically last anywhere from 10-20 years. That's significantly longer than most people own a vehicle and longer than your average gas-powered ICE (internal combustion) engine. More importantly, auto manufacturers guarantee it, too.Apr 19, 2022

 

[Delldude]

yeah, no so much.

How long does a electric vehicles battery last?

10-20 years

Thankfully, experts suggest that EV batteries will typically last anywhere from 10-20 years. That's significantly longer than most people own a vehicle and longer than your average gas-powered ICE (internal combustion) engine. More importantly, auto manufacturers guarantee it, too.Apr 19, 2022

Suggest........ask the woman who got screwed buying a 2014 clunker for 11K.

 

[otto105]

Suggest........ask the woman who got screwed buying a 2014 clunker for 11K.

Oh no, one wasn't perfect....


The horrors...

 

[Delldude]

Oh no, one wasn't perfect....


The horrors...

The future.
Battery life is directly proportional to adhering, specifically, to manufacturer charging procedures. I guarantee you many will 'top off' their batteries to try and get around long charge times. Guarantee you. That directly affects battery life.

 

[ding]

yeah, no so much.

How long does a electric vehicles battery last?

10-20 years

Thankfully, experts suggest that EV batteries will typically last anywhere from 10-20 years. That's significantly longer than most people own a vehicle and longer than your average gas-powered ICE (internal combustion) engine. More importantly, auto manufacturers guarantee it, too.Apr 19, 2022

Actually... it's more like 7 to 10 years. And do you know how much lithium it would take to build enough batteries to hold one day's use of gasoline and diesel? 18 billion kgs. Which at the current rate of mining would take 177 years to produce. So every 7 to 10 years they would have to produce 177 times more lithium than they mine in 1 year. Can't be done. It's simple math.

 

[Delldude]

Actually... it's more like 7 to 10 years. And do you know how much lithium it would take to build enough batteries to hold one day's use of gasoline and diesel? 18 billion kgs. Which at the current rate of mining would take 177 years to produce. So every 7 to 10 years they would have to produce 177 times more lithium than they mine in 1 year. Can't be done. It's simple math.

Ding, you're not drinking the Biden koolaid with facts like that.

 

[krichton]

Electric cars are designed to prevent the freedom to travel.

Go to work, go home

Vacation? If the government allows a charging station where you are going. If you afford extra days off for charging.

Vacation only close to home.

If I can only vacation as far as my car will take me then it's probably best I'd stay close to home.

 

[krichton]

FDNY says e-bikes have been responsible for over 100 fires, multiple deaths since the start of 2021 | Blaze Media

FDNY officials are warning that the lithium ion batteries from increasingly-popular e-bikes present a fire hazard, and have already been responsible for at least 140 fires in the last 16 months alone. Those fires have caused dozens of injuries and at least 5 deaths in New York City since the...

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Everyone throw away your phones, laptops and tablets!! The sky is falling!!

 

[Delldude]

If I can only vacation as far as my car will take me then it's probably best I'd stay close to home.

That's the idea.

 

[otto105]

Actually... it's more like 7 to 10 years. And do you know how much lithium it would take to build enough batteries to hold one day's use of gasoline and diesel? 18 billion kgs. Which at the current rate of mining would take 177 years to produce. So every 7 to 10 years they would have to produce 177 times more lithium than they mine in 1 year. Can't be done. It's simple math.

Wow, climate denial in overdrive today?


So, back to my previous question. If I own an EV that is powered by renewable energy, how long is my payback over a ICE?

Taking in all emissions to produce and lifetime to operate.

 

[Delldude]

Wow, climate denial in overdrive today?


So, back to my previous question. If I own an EV that is powered by renewable energy, how long is my payback over a ICE?

Taking in all emissions to produce and lifetime to operate.

Until your battery replacement overrides your trade in value.

 

[ding]

Wow, climate denial in overdrive today?


So, back to my previous question. If I own an EV that is powered by renewable energy, how long is my payback over a ICE?

Taking in all emissions to produce and lifetime to operate.

Climate denial? It's just math. See?

How much lithium is needed to replace all internal combustion engines in the world?

You can't simply calculate how many electric vehicles (EV) batteries are needed for the worldwide fleet to replace internal combustion engines. First of all there is no exact number of internal combustion engines in the world. Secondly there is variability in the battery size of EV batteries...

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How many years would it take to mine enough lithium to make enough batteries to replace all of the internal combustion engines in the world?

The current rate of mining lithium is 100,000 metric tons. The amount of lithium needed to replace all internal combustion engines is 17,712,640 metric tons. So the number of years to mine enough lithium to replace all internal combustion engines is 177 years (17,712,640 metric tons divided...

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Your question is poorly worded. The answer is it depends. Why don't you show me your math?

 

[otto105]

Climate denial? It's just math. See?

How much lithium is needed to replace all internal combustion engines in the world?

You can't simply calculate how many electric vehicles (EV) batteries are needed for the worldwide fleet to replace internal combustion engines. First of all there is no exact number of internal combustion engines in the world. Secondly there is variability in the battery size of EV batteries...

www.usmessageboard.com

How many years would it take to mine enough lithium to make enough batteries to replace all of the internal combustion engines in the world?

The current rate of mining lithium is 100,000 metric tons. The amount of lithium needed to replace all internal combustion engines is 17,712,640 metric tons. So the number of years to mine enough lithium to replace all internal combustion engines is 177 years (17,712,640 metric tons divided...

www.usmessageboard.com

Your question is poorly worded. The answer is it depends. Why don't you show me your math?

Analysis: When do electric vehicles become cleaner than gasoline cars?

 

[ding]

Analysis: When do electric vehicles become cleaner than gasoline cars?

CO2 isn’t pollution. It’s a vital component of the carbon cycle that all life on the planet relies upon to survive.

 

[otto105]

CO2 isn’t pollution. It’s a vital component of the carbon cycle that all life on the planet relies upon to survive.

Can I fill up your house with CO2?

 

[ding]

Can I fill up your house with CO2?

My house already has CO2 in it.

 

[otto105]

My house already has CO2 in it.

Yeah, at what level does it become lethal?