Abortion

[manu1959]

If you want to ignore and distort the practical side of this and talk morals, then let's talk morals.

It's not your body, it's not you're right to choose.

I'll say this: until the baby can function on its own (meaning it has a heartbeat and has developed its physical attributes), it is still a part of the woman's body. It is completely dependent on her and if she doesn't want to push it out, it's not your right to tell her she must. Take issue with that as I'm sure you will, but theres more to morality than the fetus.

she didn't creat the child by herself why does she get to decide without any input from her partner

 

[liberalogic]

she didn't creat the child by herself why does she get to decide without any input from her partner

Very true, but at the same time, the guy is not the one who must go through labor or 9 months of discomfort.

 

[manu1959]

Very true, but at the same time, the guy is not the one who must go through labor or 9 months of discomfort.

you have never lived with a woman that carries your child have you?

it is always those with tons of opinions and zero experience with all the solutions for everyone else

 

[SpidermanTuba]

she didn't creat the child by herself why does she get to decide without any input from her partner

Because the fetus is inside of her body. Possession of one's own body is a fundamental right.

 

[manu1959]

Because the fetus is inside of her body. Possession of one's own body is a fundamental right.

why do you get an opinion about it it ain't yours

 

[SpidermanTuba]

why do you get an opinion about it it ain't yours

? I have no right to possess any part of anyone's body but my own.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

It's simple.. a culture that kills and sanctions killing it's most precious and helpless is barbaric and uncivilized, and nowhere in our contsitution does it stipulate it's okay to do so.

Then why do you support BUsh killing 30000 Iraqis?


Does something being legal mean the government is sanctioning it? If I live in a country, say, the US, where I can publish cartoons depicting the religion of my choice, say, Islam, in a negative light, does that mean the government is sanctioning my cartoon? Does our government sanction neo-nazi parades, since they are legal?


Read the 9th Amendment. That's where the right to privacy is. The founding fathers realized there were certain OBVIOUS basic rights, but that there were too many to list, and they might forget to include some, so they wrote the 9th amendment.

 

[manu1959]

? I have no right to possess any part of anyone's body but my own.

then keep your opinion to yourself

 

[SpidermanTuba]

then keep your opinion to yourself

No.

 

[manu1959]

Then why do you support BUsh killing 30000 Iraqis?


Does something being legal mean the government is sanctioning it? If I live in a country, say, the US, where I can publish cartoons depicting the religion of my choice, say, Islam, in a negative light, does that mean the government is sanctioning my cartoon? Does our government sanction neo-nazi parades, since they are legal?

bush didn't kill one

 

[SpidermanTuba]

bush didn't kill one

Does that mean mob bosses don't kill people?

Bush ordered the invasion that resulted in 30000 IRaqis dying.

 

[manu1959]

Does that mean mob bosses don't kill people?

Bush ordered the invasion that resulted in 30000 IRaqis dying.

congress ordered the invasion....have a good time at the bar?

 

[manu1959]

No.

if you " ...have no right to possess any part of anyone's body but my own"

then you should keep quite about things that affect others

 

[SpidermanTuba]

congress ordered the invasion....have a good time at the bar?

No they didn't. Congress authorized it. Bush ordered it. Get your facts straight.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

if you " ...have no right to possess any part of anyone's body but my own"

then you should keep quite about things that affect others

That doesn't follow.

 

[manu1959]

That doesn't follow.

hey it is your quote....sorry if you confuse yourself

 

[manu1959]

No they didn't. Congress authorized it. Bush ordered it. Get your facts straight.

right it is congress fault...see we do agree

 

[SpidermanTuba]

hey it is your quote....sorry if you confuse yourself

The conclusion you draw from my quote does not logically follow from my quote. Its as if I were to say "Oranges are orange" and from that you concluded that USC is an overrated football team.

 

[manu1959]

The conclusion you draw from my quote does not logically follow from my quote. Its as if I were to say "Oranges are orange" and from that you concluded that USC is an overrated football team.

are oranges not oranges? is USC a good team then?

this is this.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

right it is congress fault...see we do agree

No, it isn't. Bush made the decision to invade Iraq. Congress merely gave him the choice. Its his fault.

If you are given a choice to do something or not to do it, and you do it, and it turns out to be a wrong choice, its your fault.