Abortion in the USA has risen since Roe was overturned

[C_Clayton_Jones]

2 Timothy 3:1-5: "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God."

Women are suffering and dying the consequence of reprehensible Republican policies.

 

[jotathought]

Nobody is celebrating. We're just pointing out how badly banning abortion is failing for Republicans. More women and children are dying, and no babies are being saved.

Nothing fails like Republican policies.

Interesting. A ban is now a failure unless it completely eliminates the behavior?

Well, there goes gun control, drug laws, theft laws, and pretty much every law ever written.

That's quite the standard you've invented for abortion.

 

[Dragonlady]

Buuuuuuut you all claimed that when Roe V Wade was overturned that abortions would become illegal.

Aaaaaaaand we all said, no...they won't. It will be state issue, instead of a federal one.

So this just proves we were correct, and that all of you were either lying, or stupid.

We didn't say that at all. We said that if women lost the right to safe and legal abortions, women would die and they are dying. We said that rich women would continue to get abortions by going to jurisdictions where they're legal, and that is what is happening. We said this was a disaster for the women of American and it is. OB/GYN's are fleeing abortion ban states.

Maternal death rates for women in abortion ban states have doubled, and infant death rates are up 13% in Texas as non-viable pregnancies are carried to term, only to have the infants die within hours.

Hospitals are refusing to provide care to women having miscarriages fearing the state will prosecute them for aiding abortions. Women who have miscarriages are facing criminal charges.

When are YOU going to face the reality of what you've done??????

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Once again Republican policies have the opposite of the effect they intended. Banning abortion in 22 states has resulted in an INCREASE in the number of abortions in the USA in every year since Roe v. Wade was overturned. But what is worse is that both infant mortality AND maternal mortality - already the highest in the first world, has dramatically increased in states which banned abortion.

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/22/nx-s1-5860868/despite-state-bans-abortions-have-almost-doubled-in-the-u-s

Universal health care, child tax benefits of $679 per month, per child, for low income families, 1 year paid maternity/paternity benefits, $10/day day care for children, and a minimum wage for all workers of $17+ per hour would go a long way to cutting abortions. That's what we have in Canada. The USA has NOTHING for young families.

Republicans only care about children as long as they are in utero. Once they're really "alive", they're on their own.

Overturning Roe was never about 'saving babies'; it was about more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty - at the expense of the health and safety of women.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Maybe you can write a whole essay for us re: how Canada killing depressed young adults through MAID is "caring for" people.

MAID?

 

[westwall]

We didn't say that at all. We said that if women lost the right to safe and legal abortions, women would die and they are dying. We said that rich women would continue to get abortions by going to jurisdictions where they're legal, and that is what is happening. We said this was a disaster for the women of American and it is. OB/GYN's are fleeing abortion ban states.

Maternal death rates for women in abortion ban states have doubled, and infant death rates are up 13% in Texas as non-viable pregnancies are carried to term, only to have the infants die within hours.

Hospitals are refusing to provide care to women having miscarriages fearing the state will prosecute them for aiding abortions. Women who have miscarriages are facing criminal charges.

When are YOU going to face the reality of what you've done??????

Oh, yes you most certainly DID! You used that as a reason to whip up protests nationwide.

So now I know you were lying.

Because you're lying now.

 

[westwall]

MAID is strictly prohibited for anyone under 18 years of age, and under current legislation, MAID is banned for anyone whose sole underlying condition is a mental illness (such as major depression).

The topic is abortion, and how Republicans have found a way to kill women and children, without affecting abortion. Stick with the topic at hand.

And it's now one of the leading causes of death in Canada.

DURRRRRR

 

[SweetSue92]

MAID is strictly prohibited for anyone under 18 years of age, and under current legislation, MAID is banned for anyone whose sole underlying condition is a mental illness (such as major depression).

The topic is abortion, and how Republicans have found a way to kill women and children, without affecting abortion. Stick with the topic at hand.

Tell us how Republicans have found a way to "kill women and children". Be specific

 

[westwall]

Nobody is celebrating. We're just pointing out how badly banning abortion is failing for Republicans. More women and children are dying, and no babies are being saved.

Nothing fails like Republican policies.

Where was it banned? Oh INDIVIDUAL states have banned it. OK, that's how this country works.

 

[Dragonlady]

Interesting. A ban is now a failure unless it completely eliminates the behavior?

Well, there goes gun control, drug laws, theft laws, and pretty much every law ever written.

That's quite the standard you've invented for abortion.

The ban has INCREASED the behaviours it sought to ban, and caused hardship and death to thousands of pregnant women. Republicans claimed this was to prevent the death of innocents, but we now have women and babies dying and more "innocents" being aborted than when they started.

Hospitals in abortion ban states are closing their "maternity wings" and refusing to care for pregnant women in crisis. Some won't even allow deliveries, reducing care for all women of child bearing years. Having a baby is the most dangerous thing most woman will ever do in their lives and Republican policies and laws have doubled that risk.

How are the bans in any way a success? No matter how you try to spin this, these policies are abject failures on every score and should be abandoned immediately before more women die.

 

[Dragonlady]

Tell us how Republicans have found a way to "kill women and children". Be specific

Lack of prenatal care, closing hospital maternity wards, turning away pregnant women in crisis, and banning D&C's. OB/GYN's leaving abortion ban states leaving less care for all women in their states.

Forcing women to carry non-viable fetuses to term, give birth to them, and have them die because of congenital birth defects, raised the infant death rate in Texas by 13% the year after their heartbeat law went into effect.

Even when women went to court and got an order to allow abortion, because continuing their pregnancy threatened their lives, Ken Paxton told hospitals he's bring charges against any hospital giving these women abortions. They were forced to leave the state to get care.

Pregnant women in abortion ban states, were advised to get special coverage to airlift them out of state should the pregnancy go sideways.

Why Idaho's hospitals are having pregnant patients airlifted out of state

A Supreme Court case heard this week pits the state’s abortion ban against a federal law that requires immediate treatment.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[jotathought]

The ban has INCREASED the behaviours it sought to ban, and caused hardship and death to thousands of pregnant women. Republicans claimed this was to prevent the death of innocents, but we now have women and babies dying and more "innocents" being aborted than when they started.

Hospitals in abortion ban states are closing their "maternity wings" and refusing to care for pregnant women in crisis. Some won't even allow deliveries, reducing care for all women of child bearing years. Having a baby is the most dangerous thing most woman will ever do in their lives and Republican policies and laws have doubled that risk.

How are the bans in any way a success? No matter how you try to spin this, these policies are abject failures on every score and should be abandoned immediately before more women die.

You keep making the same logical leap: "abortions increased nationally" therefore "every abortion restriction failed."

That's like saying a state gun ban failed because guns can be purchased in a neighboring state. Or that drug laws failed because drugs still exist.

What you've actually demonstrated is that people can cross state lines and that different states have different policies—which is exactly what the Dobbs decision returned the country to.

 

[theHawk]

Once again Republican policies have the opposite of the effect they intended. Banning abortion in 22 states has resulted in an INCREASE in the number of abortions in the USA in every year since Roe v. Wade was overturned. But what is worse is that both infant mortality AND maternal mortality - already the highest in the first world, has dramatically increased in states which banned abortion.

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/22/nx-s1-5860868/despite-state-bans-abortions-have-almost-doubled-in-the-u-s

Universal health care, child tax benefits of $679 per month, per child, for low income families, 1 year paid maternity/paternity benefits, $10/day day care for children, and a minimum wage for all workers of $17+ per hour would go a long way to cutting abortions. That's what we have in Canada. The USA has NOTHING for young families.

Republicans only care about children as long as they are in utero. Once they're really "alive", they're on their own.

What a retarded take. Your own article says the increase is due to the “abortion pill” that is now widely available. This means abortions would had gone up regardless of the SCOTUS decision to allow voters on the state level to decide the issue.


Amazing how you lefties celebrate killing the unborn, yet somehow manage to blame “the right” that is against it.

“More abortions? It’s MAGA’s fault!”

You’re totally delusional, but that’s to be expected from someone who justifies killing the unborn. Once you make that leap, you’ll support anything that is degenerate in order to keep that justification valid in your own mind.

Trying to correlate infant mortality rates to “red states” is also totally retarded. The biggest factor for infant mortality are racial demographics. Blacks and Native Americans have over double the amount of infant mortality rates of whites and Asians. So much for trying to make it look like “MAGA country” is seeing a huge uptick in infant mortality rates.

Why does SatanLady lie so much? Maybe it’s because you take after the Father of Lies himself?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Nobody is celebrating. We're just pointing out how badly banning abortion is failing for Republicans. More women and children are dying, and no babies are being saved.

Nothing fails like Republican policies.

We successfully killed Roe, and now we can work on individual states, with the goal in the end to stop the killing of innocent victims who have no choice or say.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Post-Dobbs has been so much easier to negotiate than all obviously originally thought.

 

[jacksonlamb]

What a retarded take. Your own article says the increase is due to the “abortion pill” that is now widely available. This means abortions would had gone up regardless of the SCOTUS decision to allow voters on the state level to decide the issue.


Amazing how you lefties celebrate killing the unborn, yet somehow manage to blame “the right” that is against it.

“More abortions? It’s MAGA’s fault!”

You’re totally delusional, but that’s to be expected from someone who justifies killing the unborn. Once you make that leap, you’ll support anything that is degenerate in order to keep that justification valid in your own mind.

Trying to correlate infant mortality rates to “red states” is also totally retarded. The biggest factor for infant mortality are racial demographics. Blacks and Native Americans have over double the amount of infant mortality rates of whites and Asians. So much for trying to make it look like “MAGA country” is seeing a huge uptick in infant mortality rates.

Why does SatanLady lie so much? Maybe it’s because you take after the Father of Lies himself?

Then why are you worried about the pill?