Abbas suggests Obama promised 67 lines - E. Jerusalem

[proudveteran06]

smack dab in the middle of the Nefud?

Israel offered to take back 100,000 refugees if the arab states absorbed the rest, but that idea didn't fly. Israel has absorbed through family reunification programs close to half that amount already over the decades.

Ask the original poster what the Palestinians brought to the " negotiating table" and just like the Tinman there will be no response. !

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

The Palestinians aren't " offering " anything . Israel was created thanks to the UN . " Palestine" was never a Country; It was a territory . However , the " 67 Borders" aren't enough. The Pigs want more . It's their goal to eventually annex Israel to " Palestine" which is why they refuse to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish State.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

smack dab in the middle of the Nefud?

Israel offered to take back 100,000 refugees if the arab states absorbed the rest, but that idea didn't fly. Israel has absorbed through family reunification programs close to half that amount already over the decades.

Ask the original poster what the Palestinians brought to the " negotiating table" and just like the Tinman there will be no response. !

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

Palestinians are part of the Arab people. It says so in their documents, usually in the first paragraphs. They get their marching orders from the Arab League. The Arabs have over 99% of the Middle East. Also, the Israelis have offered land swaps in exchange for the settlement blocs that they want to keep. The Galilee is mostly Arab, for instance, but the Arabs who live there don't want to become a part of Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ask the original poster what the Palestinians brought to the " negotiating table" and just like the Tinman there will be no response. !

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

The Palestinians aren't " offering " anything . Israel was created thanks to the UN . " Palestine" was never a Country; It was a territory . However , the " 67 Borders" aren't enough. The Pigs want more . It's their goal to eventually annex Israel to " Palestine" which is why they refuse to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish State.

The Palestinians have been offering to cede land to Israel for decades.

Israel has never accepted the offer.

 

[Sally]

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

The Palestinians aren't " offering " anything . Israel was created thanks to the UN . " Palestine" was never a Country; It was a territory . However , the " 67 Borders" aren't enough. The Pigs want more . It's their goal to eventually annex Israel to " Palestine" which is why they refuse to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish State.

The Palestinians have been offering to cede land to Israel for decades.

Israel has never accepted the offer.

How can a people who never existed until the 1970's give land to anyone? However, Mr. Tinmore, it's nice to see the Hamas representative staying at his station in the U.S. to quickly reply to posts. I think everyone is aware by now that the Arab thinking is that none of the land really belongs to the Jews; all the land in the Middle East should belong to them.

 

[proudveteran06]

i see that posted a lot, but it's so much crap. first, fairly sure that "95%" is not a real number but is so much made up propaganda.

second, it assumes that every desire is equally weighted. we all know that just isn't true.

finally, you may claim that the PA doesn't want land and only wants to kill, but if that's true they aren't nearly as good at is as the IDF.

Why are you saying that the number 95% is not true?? Ever hear of the Camp David summit?
Do a little research before you call someones comment 'propaganda'

i've heard of it, and i have no idea how the 95% number is arrived at.

but it doesn't really matter, because once again not all desires are equal.

It has been posted what the Israelis have offered. Why can't he post what the Palestinians have done to " negotiate? " that is because the answer is " nothing" Rather then admit it he chooses not to answer.

 

[aris2chat]

No comment to go with the illustration?

Sure, where is that 95%?

Or was that just a lie?

The offer was 14 yrs ago that settlement would be removed, but now Jordan does not want palestinians to control the Jordan valley, they want Israel to retain control.
Life goes on. People expand and build homes. Even if many of the settlements were cleared out, Israel would have developed and improved the area.
If jews want to remain and become palestinians, OK. They should be allowed to.
To say that palestine should be totally jew free is highly races and could easily become muslim only or sunni only. If IJ became the main force any peace with Israel could turn to WB/G declare war on Israel.
Security and disarmament is high on the list. Not loosing the Western wall again is paramount.

 

[Roudy]

the rules israel makes. do you not see how that isn't a negotiation at all?

would you settle for only the scraps someone else decided you could have?

You THINK the so called Palestinians could find another place to live and breed besides Israel, I mean, HALF that land is unoccupied!

smack dab in the middle of the Nefud?

Israel offered to take back 100,000 refugees if the arab states absorbed the rest, but that idea didn't fly. Israel has absorbed through family reunification programs close to half that amount already over the decades.

And what makes you think Arabs care about each other? Can you point anytime in history that Arabs did anything other than provide lip service for each other?

 

[aris2chat]

No comment to go with the illustration?

Sure, where is that 95%?

Or was that just a lie?

Why is the red area not on that pie chart, my little goldfish?

Red is within the the palestinian zone.

 

[aris2chat]

smack dab in the middle of the Nefud?

Israel offered to take back 100,000 refugees if the arab states absorbed the rest, but that idea didn't fly. Israel has absorbed through family reunification programs close to half that amount already over the decades.

Ask the original poster what the Palestinians brought to the " negotiating table" and just like the Tinman there will be no response. !

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

Hamas is not recognizing Israel or a peace agreement. palestinians are not giving Israel 78% of palestine. Israel is not a gift or trade, Israel is theirs already. Palestinians must acknowledge Israel as a jewish state, past and future. It will retain its protection of all jews, no matter the future demographics or political make up.

 

[aris2chat]

Erekat pointed out that the Palestinians have already recognized the State of Israel, under the 1993 Oslo Accord. Asking them to go further would be demanding that Palestinians change their own narrative about the history of the land on which they live, he said, noting that his hometown of Jericho is 10,000 years old.

“Israelis cannot deny the fact that I have my own narrative, religion,” he asserted. Calling Israel a Jewish state would imply that “I was the intruder on this land. It’s not my story.”

Erekat added that the demand had been raised by Israeli negotiator Tzipi Livni three years ago and was not part of the original core issues of settlements, Jerusalem, refugees and security. “Let us confine ourselves to what we agreed to discuss, then Israel can define itself as it likes,” said Erekat. He added that if he were an Israeli negotiator, he would focus on "the end of conflict and the end of claims."
Al-Monitor: The Pulse of the Middle East

 

[proudveteran06]

Ask the original poster what the Palestinians brought to the " negotiating table" and just like the Tinman there will be no response. !

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

Hamas is not recognizing Israel or a peace agreement. palestinians are not giving Israel 78% of palestine. Israel is not a gift or trade, Israel is theirs already. Palestinians must acknowledge Israel as a jewish state, past and future. It will retain its protection of all jews, no matter the future demographics or political make up.

They won't recognize Israel as a Jewish State because the plan for those Racist Pigs is to annex Israel to " Palestine ".

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Sure, where is that 95%?

Or was that just a lie?

Why is the red area not on that pie chart, my little goldfish?

Red is within the the palestinian zone.

Yes, which is why that map devised by a pro-Palestinian biased source is meant to fool us but it is obvious that the red area takes the land offered up to around the 95% mark. ppppffttinmore ought to really source his information from credible links.

 

[Phoenall]

Sure, where is that 95%?

Or was that just a lie?

You do the math and see what you come up with

61% under P.A. control

14% under Israeli control but to be handed back

That is 74% of the west bank that is not under Palestinian sovereignty as of May 2000, add that to the red areas on your map and you see 95%

Or did you forget about the red areas because they weren't represented in the pie chart

Here is a map from a different source.

And it still comes out as 95% if you look.

OH! and the source is exactly the same blog you used before

 

[Phoenall]

smack dab in the middle of the Nefud?

Israel offered to take back 100,000 refugees if the arab states absorbed the rest, but that idea didn't fly. Israel has absorbed through family reunification programs close to half that amount already over the decades.

Ask the original poster what the Palestinians brought to the " negotiating table" and just like the Tinman there will be no response. !

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

The Palestinians are offering nothing that Israel DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE. the only thing they offer is genocide and destruction.

Now do show a credible link to this 78% figure as that would take in all of Jordan, Syria, Iraq and parts of Lebanon. Does the PLO have the power to sign all that away ?

 

[Phoenall]

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

The Palestinians aren't " offering " anything . Israel was created thanks to the UN . " Palestine" was never a Country; It was a territory . However , the " 67 Borders" aren't enough. The Pigs want more . It's their goal to eventually annex Israel to " Palestine" which is why they refuse to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish State.

The Palestinians have been offering to cede land to Israel for decades.

Israel has never accepted the offer.

Proof from a credible source, or retract and admit you are wrong

 

[proudveteran06]

The Palestinians aren't " offering " anything . Israel was created thanks to the UN . " Palestine" was never a Country; It was a territory . However , the " 67 Borders" aren't enough. The Pigs want more . It's their goal to eventually annex Israel to " Palestine" which is why they refuse to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish State.

The Palestinians have been offering to cede land to Israel for decades.

Israel has never accepted the offer.

Proof from a credible source, or retract and admit you are wrong

The Palestinians have been offering to " cede land for decades?" Lets see..... They want borders that were never accepted before, NJA/ No Israelis allowed in " Palestine" and " Right of Return" for approx. 6.5 Million Arabs IF they wanted to so Israel would be annexed to Palestine. What are they " offering" again? The answer is " nothing"


The population in Israel is just over 8 Million. 75 percent are Jewish. Abbas wants the OPTION of having 6.5 Million Palestinians " return" which would automatically destroy Israel and annex it to the Palestinian State. Let him keep insisting. It will never happen.

 

[toastman]

The Palestinians are offering to give Israel 78% of Palestine.

And the pigs want more.

The Palestinians aren't " offering " anything . Israel was created thanks to the UN . " Palestine" was never a Country; It was a territory . However , the " 67 Borders" aren't enough. The Pigs want more . It's their goal to eventually annex Israel to " Palestine" which is why they refuse to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish State.

The Palestinians have been offering to cede land to Israel for decades.

Israel has never accepted the offer.

Lol. Comments like this dont warrant an actual response

 

[toastman]

The Palestinians have been offering to cede land to Israel for decades.

Israel has never accepted the offer.

Proof from a credible source, or retract and admit you are wrong

The Palestinians have been offering to " cede land for decades?" Lets see..... They want borders that were never accepted before, NJA/ No Israelis allowed in " Palestine" and " Right of Return" for approx. 6.5 Million Arabs IF they wanted to so Israel would be annexed to Palestine. What are they " offering" again? The answer is " nothing"


The population in Israel is just over 8 Million. 75 percent are Jewish. Abbas wants the OPTION of having 6.5 Million Palestinians " return" which would automatically destroy Israel and annex it to the Palestinian State. Let him keep insisting. It will never happen.

LOL you actually think Tinmore knows anything about Palestine or Israel??
He didnt even know that Palestine was technically founded as a sovereign state in 1988 (west bank and gaza).

 

[proudveteran06]

Proof from a credible source, or retract and admit you are wrong

The Palestinians have been offering to " cede land for decades?" Lets see..... They want borders that were never accepted before, NJA/ No Israelis allowed in " Palestine" and " Right of Return" for approx. 6.5 Million Arabs IF they wanted to so Israel would be annexed to Palestine. What are they " offering" again? The answer is " nothing"


The population in Israel is just over 8 Million. 75 percent are Jewish. Abbas wants the OPTION of having 6.5 Million Palestinians " return" which would automatically destroy Israel and annex it to the Palestinian State. Let him keep insisting. It will never happen.

LOL you actually think Tinmore knows anything about Palestine or Israel??
He didnt even know that Palestine was technically founded as a sovereign state in 1988 (west bank and gaza).

According to him " Palestine" became a Country around 1910 ( Forgot his exact date) When asked what kind of Govt they had, etc. etc. there is no response .

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The Palestinians have been offering to " cede land for decades?" Lets see..... They want borders that were never accepted before, NJA/ No Israelis allowed in " Palestine" and " Right of Return" for approx. 6.5 Million Arabs IF they wanted to so Israel would be annexed to Palestine. What are they " offering" again? The answer is " nothing"


The population in Israel is just over 8 Million. 75 percent are Jewish. Abbas wants the OPTION of having 6.5 Million Palestinians " return" which would automatically destroy Israel and annex it to the Palestinian State. Let him keep insisting. It will never happen.

LOL you actually think Tinmore knows anything about Palestine or Israel??
He didnt even know that Palestine was technically founded as a sovereign state in 1988 (west bank and gaza).

According to him " Palestine" became a Country around 1910 ( Forgot his exact date) When asked what kind of Govt they had, etc. etc. there is no response .

It was supposedly in 1924 in a treaty that I later read, which doesn't even mention Palestine at all.