A World War II Mindset Is Needed

[Flanders]

No. ISIS is a scattered group of insurgents. They are not a powerful nation. No comparison.

To Agit8r: I cannot agree. Communists never had a nation until after the Russian Revolutions. On the other hand, Muslims control between 49 to 51 governments:

How many Muslim countries are there in the world?

Combine Muslim and Communist theocracies and you have a substantial enemy out to destroy America’s form of government. Add in all of the other priesthoods who hate our first Amendment and you are left with a small number of Americans with the understanding, and the will, ready to fight for this country.

NOTE: I have no way of knowing how many governments in the rest of world despise theocracy enough to fight alongside Americans for our form of government.

I know one thing for sure. Any American who promotes democracy is not to be trusted. See this thread:

Another Soldier For democracy Chimes In

Parenthetically, Islam’s battle strategy is to infiltrate and intimidate rather then field a traditional army. ISIS is an anomaly in that they are fighting to transform historical Muslim territory into a more radical version of Islam.

Just compare the number of laws in America after hitler and before hitler. Or, after Wilson and before Wilson.

To anotherlife: Definitely Woodrow Wilson.

In truth, 1913 was the best year big government advocates had since Abraham Lincoln took office. Nineteen thirteen gave the country the XVI and XVII Amendments and the Federal Reserve.

The ACLU (1920).

Wilson’s brainchild, the League of Nations (1920), ended with the United Nations.

Note the damage done by the XVII Amendment. When Wilson tried to get the US into the League —— seven years after the XVII Amendment in 1913 —— enough senators remained loyal to this country to keep the US out of the League. By 1945 the Senate as a body betrayed this country by establishing the United Nations. Long-serving senators have not stopped since then.

And nazi propaganda is irrelevant in the 21st century, as it is classified as ancient history.

To anotherlife: Separate content from the machinery of modern sound technology used on huge audiences that was pioneered by Goebbels. Television added pictures and took it to heights Goebbels never dreamed about. Propaganda in motion pictures is not new, but it pales besides television.

 

[anotherlife]

So you are one of those 20th century people. I guess you should know then, or maybe that's why you don't know then. So what is your "logic"? The more hysteria, the more centralized, power, the more government provisioning and preconditioning, the better? This didn't end well in the Soviet Union, and it will be even worse in an automatized and networked 21st century world. Very evil, if not pure evil.

I was born in the 20th century------since we are only 16 years into the twenty-first----
that would make you ------what 14? Maybe it is your age which accounts for the
fact that you have no idea that you are parroting old ideas used by Nazi propagandaists

Call me whatever you want. Money is money, and losing is losing. It has merit to point out new propaganda that makes you lose, by design. And nazi propaganda is irrelevant in the 21st century, as it is classified as ancient history.

WWII is not ancient history, professor.

Okay, we can agree that ww2 is contemporary for those who have it in their interest today, and ancient history for those who don't, and they can change this back and forth any day.

why would "we" agree on so idiotic a concept-----it happened in about the middle part of the 20th century-----SEE? easy----- numbers ,make things EASY

We are talking about politics here, right? In politics, numbers cook ten a penny.

 

[Agit8r]

No. ISIS is a scattered group of insurgents. They are not a powerful nation. No comparison.

To Agit8r: I cannot agree. Communists never had a nation until after the Russian Revolutions. On the other hand, Muslims control between 49 to 51 governments:

How many Muslim countries are there in the world?

Combine Muslim and Communist theocracies and you have a substantial enemy out to destroy America’s form of government. Add in all of the other priesthoods who hate our first Amendment and you are left with a small number of Americans with the understanding, and the will, ready to fight for this country.

NOTE: I have no way of knowing how many governments in the rest of world despise theocracy enough to fight alongside Americans for our form of government.

I know one thing for sure. Any American who promotes democracy is not to be trusted. See this thread:

Another Soldier For democracy Chimes In

Parenthetically, Islam’s battle strategy is to infiltrate and intimidate rather then field a traditional army. ISIS is an anomaly in that they are fighting to transform historical Muslim territory into a more radical version of Islam.

Just compare the number of laws in America after hitler and before hitler. Or, after Wilson and before Wilson.

To anotherlife: Definitely Woodrow Wilson.

In truth, 1913 was the best year big government advocates had since Abraham Lincoln took office. Nineteen thirteen gave the country the XVI and XVII Amendments and the Federal Reserve.

The ACLU (1920).

Wilson’s brainchild, the League of Nations (1920), ended with the United Nations.

Note the damage done by the XVII Amendment. When Wilson tried to get the US into the League —— seven years after the XVII Amendment in 1913 —— enough senators remained loyal to this country to keep the US out of the League. By 1945 the Senate as a body betrayed this country by establishing the United Nations. Long-serving senators have not stopped since then.

And nazi propaganda is irrelevant in the 21st century, as it is classified as ancient history.

To anotherlife: Separate content from the machinery of modern sound technology used on huge audiences that was pioneered by Goebbels. Television added pictures and took it to heights Goebbels never dreamed about. Propaganda in motion pictures is not new, but it pales besides television.

No. ISIS is a scattered group of insurgents. They are not a powerful nation. No comparison.

To Agit8r: I cannot agree. Communists never had a nation until after the Russian Revolutions. On the other hand, Muslims control between 49 to 51 governments:

How many Muslim countries are there in the world?

Combine Muslim and Communist theocracies and you have a substantial enemy out to destroy America’s form of government. Add in all of the other priesthoods who hate our first Amendment and you are left with a small number of Americans with the understanding, and the will, ready to fight for this country.

NOTE: I have no way of knowing how many governments in the rest of world despise theocracy enough to fight alongside Americans for our form of government.

I know one thing for sure. Any American who promotes democracy is not to be trusted. See this thread:

Another Soldier For democracy Chimes In

Parenthetically, Islam’s battle strategy is to infiltrate and intimidate rather then field a traditional army. ISIS is an anomaly in that they are fighting to transform historical Muslim territory into a more radical version of Islam.

Just compare the number of laws in America after hitler and before hitler. Or, after Wilson and before Wilson.

To anotherlife: Definitely Woodrow Wilson.

In truth, 1913 was the best year big government advocates had since Abraham Lincoln took office. Nineteen thirteen gave the country the XVI and XVII Amendments and the Federal Reserve.

The ACLU (1920).

Wilson’s brainchild, the League of Nations (1920), ended with the United Nations.

Note the damage done by the XVII Amendment. When Wilson tried to get the US into the League —— seven years after the XVII Amendment in 1913 —— enough senators remained loyal to this country to keep the US out of the League. By 1945 the Senate as a body betrayed this country by establishing the United Nations. Long-serving senators have not stopped since then.

And nazi propaganda is irrelevant in the 21st century, as it is classified as ancient history.

To anotherlife: Separate content from the machinery of modern sound technology used on huge audiences that was pioneered by Goebbels. Television added pictures and took it to heights Goebbels never dreamed about. Propaganda in motion pictures is not new, but it pales besides television.

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

 

[irosie91]

No. ISIS is a scattered group of insurgents. They are not a powerful nation. No comparison.

To Agit8r: I cannot agree. Communists never had a nation until after the Russian Revolutions. On the other hand, Muslims control between 49 to 51 governments:

How many Muslim countries are there in the world?

Combine Muslim and Communist theocracies and you have a substantial enemy out to destroy America’s form of government. Add in all of the other priesthoods who hate our first Amendment and you are left with a small number of Americans with the understanding, and the will, ready to fight for this country.

NOTE: I have no way of knowing how many governments in the rest of world despise theocracy enough to fight alongside Americans for our form of government.

I know one thing for sure. Any American who promotes democracy is not to be trusted. See this thread:

Another Soldier For democracy Chimes In

Parenthetically, Islam’s battle strategy is to infiltrate and intimidate rather then field a traditional army. ISIS is an anomaly in that they are fighting to transform historical Muslim territory into a more radical version of Islam.

Just compare the number of laws in America after hitler and before hitler. Or, after Wilson and before Wilson.

To anotherlife: Definitely Woodrow Wilson.

In truth, 1913 was the best year big government advocates had since Abraham Lincoln took office. Nineteen thirteen gave the country the XVI and XVII Amendments and the Federal Reserve.

The ACLU (1920).

Wilson’s brainchild, the League of Nations (1920), ended with the United Nations.

Note the damage done by the XVII Amendment. When Wilson tried to get the US into the League —— seven years after the XVII Amendment in 1913 —— enough senators remained loyal to this country to keep the US out of the League. By 1945 the Senate as a body betrayed this country by establishing the United Nations. Long-serving senators have not stopped since then.

And nazi propaganda is irrelevant in the 21st century, as it is classified as ancient history.

To anotherlife: Separate content from the machinery of modern sound technology used on huge audiences that was pioneered by Goebbels. Television added pictures and took it to heights Goebbels never dreamed about. Propaganda in motion pictures is not new, but it pales besides television.

No. ISIS is a scattered group of insurgents. They are not a powerful nation. No comparison.

To Agit8r: I cannot agree. Communists never had a nation until after the Russian Revolutions. On the other hand, Muslims control between 49 to 51 governments:

How many Muslim countries are there in the world?

Combine Muslim and Communist theocracies and you have a substantial enemy out to destroy America’s form of government. Add in all of the other priesthoods who hate our first Amendment and you are left with a small number of Americans with the understanding, and the will, ready to fight for this country.

NOTE: I have no way of knowing how many governments in the rest of world despise theocracy enough to fight alongside Americans for our form of government.

I know one thing for sure. Any American who promotes democracy is not to be trusted. See this thread:

Another Soldier For democracy Chimes In

Parenthetically, Islam’s battle strategy is to infiltrate and intimidate rather then field a traditional army. ISIS is an anomaly in that they are fighting to transform historical Muslim territory into a more radical version of Islam.

Just compare the number of laws in America after hitler and before hitler. Or, after Wilson and before Wilson.

To anotherlife: Definitely Woodrow Wilson.

In truth, 1913 was the best year big government advocates had since Abraham Lincoln took office. Nineteen thirteen gave the country the XVI and XVII Amendments and the Federal Reserve.

The ACLU (1920).

Wilson’s brainchild, the League of Nations (1920), ended with the United Nations.

Note the damage done by the XVII Amendment. When Wilson tried to get the US into the League —— seven years after the XVII Amendment in 1913 —— enough senators remained loyal to this country to keep the US out of the League. By 1945 the Senate as a body betrayed this country by establishing the United Nations. Long-serving senators have not stopped since then.

And nazi propaganda is irrelevant in the 21st century, as it is classified as ancient history.

To anotherlife: Separate content from the machinery of modern sound technology used on huge audiences that was pioneered by Goebbels. Television added pictures and took it to heights Goebbels never dreamed about. Propaganda in motion pictures is not new, but it pales besides television.

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

so?? More than 99% of the world's Christian population were never members of
the Nazi party

 

[Flanders]

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

To Agit8r: What is your point? Every Christian is not part of the Roman Catholic Church, but they all believe the basic ideology just as every Muslim believes Islam’s ideology.

 

[irosie91]

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

To Agit8r: What is your point? Every Christian is not part of the Roman Catholic Church, but they all believe the basic ideology just as every Muslim believes Islam’s ideology.

SO TRUE
The idea of CALIPHATE is as central to Islamic belief as the trinity is to Christian
belief. As to the claims ----"SO MANY MUSLIMS ARE AGAINST ISIS" sure,,
"SO MANY" are .. It is not a shariah adherent caliphate (which ISIS is) they are
against-------IT IS this of that sect or tribe of muslims that is against the specific sect &/or tribeof sunni muslims in Iraq that control ISIS.
The biggest LIE of the past few days---
is "MUSLIMS OPPOSE CALIPHATE". The fake declaration is like saying
CHRISTIANS OPPOSE THE CONCEPT "CHRIST HAS RISEN" The claim that
"MOST MUSLIMS OPPOSE" can be made only by islamo Nazi propagandizing
dogs and their supporters. This claim is a new MARKER-----it means "I AM
AN ISLAMO NAZI

 

[Unkotare]

^^^^

 

[Agit8r]

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

To Agit8r: What is your point? Every Christian is not part of the Roman Catholic Church, but they all believe the basic ideology just as every Muslim believes Islam’s ideology.

99%+ of Christians are not part of the Lord's Resistance Army either.

 

[Agit8r]

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

To Agit8r: What is your point? Every Christian is not part of the Roman Catholic Church, but they all believe the basic ideology just as every Muslim believes Islam’s ideology.

SO TRUE
The idea of CALIPHATE is as central to Islamic belief as the trinity is to Christian
belief. As to the claims ----"SO MANY MUSLIMS ARE AGAINST ISIS" sure,,
"SO MANY" are .. It is not a shariah adherent caliphate (which ISIS is) they are
against-------IT IS this of that sect or tribe of muslims that is against the specific sect &/or tribeof sunni muslims in Iraq that control ISIS.
The biggest LIE of the past few days---
is "MUSLIMS OPPOSE CALIPHATE". The fake declaration is like saying
CHRISTIANS OPPOSE THE CONCEPT "CHRIST HAS RISEN" The claim that
"MOST MUSLIMS OPPOSE" can be made only by islamo Nazi propagandizing
dogs and their supporters. This claim is a new MARKER-----it means "I AM
AN ISLAMO NAZI

This seems to be the analogy that you were looking for:
Dominion Theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

The op has never been in combat.

What unit were you in?

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

To Agit8r: What is your point? Every Christian is not part of the Roman Catholic Church, but they all believe the basic ideology just as every Muslim believes Islam’s ideology.

99%+ of Christians are not part of the Lord's Resistance Army either.

Christians aren't making excuses for thew LRA, either. I say kill all those fuckers, too.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

So...will we go total war footing? Rationing, the corporations required by the government to switch to war production?

All out war against ISIS wouldn't expend resources on th he same level as WW2.

 

[HenryBHough]

Pessimism and defeatism are not American characteristics.

True.

They are exclusively property of The Democrat Party.

 

[JakeStarkey]

HenryBHough is the poster child of American defeatism.

No one at all is possibly a better image.

The fact is that ISIS is nothing like Bolsehviks or the Nazis or the Japanese militarists.

There is no comparison. A great Navy and AF and use of spec ops will be the backbone of defeating ISIS.

The American people will not permit the dispatch of another large American army to the ME in our lifetimes.

 

[HenryBHough]

HenryBHough is the poster child of American defeatism.

No one at all is possibly a better image.

The fact is that ISIS is nothing like Bolsehviks or the Nazis or the Japanese militarists.

There is no comparison. A great Navy and AF and use of spec ops will be the backbone of defeating ISIS.

The American people will not permit the dispatch of another large American army to the ME in our lifetimes.

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Bold face in the above applied for clarity:

The "bolded" statement is absolutely correct. ISIS more closely resembles the "establishment" wing of the (former) Republican Party. It's the rest that's bullshit.

Now, go run tell the teacher.

 

[irosie91]

99%+ of Muslims are not part of ISIS

To Agit8r: What is your point? Every Christian is not part of the Roman Catholic Church, but they all believe the basic ideology just as every Muslim believes Islam’s ideology.

SO TRUE
The idea of CALIPHATE is as central to Islamic belief as the trinity is to Christian
belief. As to the claims ----"SO MANY MUSLIMS ARE AGAINST ISIS" sure,,
"SO MANY" are .. It is not a shariah adherent caliphate (which ISIS is) they are
against-------IT IS this of that sect or tribe of muslims that is against the specific sect &/or tribeof sunni muslims in Iraq that control ISIS.
The biggest LIE of the past few days---
is "MUSLIMS OPPOSE CALIPHATE". The fake declaration is like saying
CHRISTIANS OPPOSE THE CONCEPT "CHRIST HAS RISEN" The claim that
"MOST MUSLIMS OPPOSE" can be made only by islamo Nazi propagandizing
dogs and their supporters. This claim is a new MARKER-----it means "I AM
AN ISLAMO NAZI

This seems to be the analogy that you were looking for:
Dominion Theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
.

an interesting citation----but it does not describe the Islamic mode all that well. ----
although the phrase "DOMINION THEOLOGY"-----is apt

 

[JakeStarkey]

Christian dominionism is quite similar to that of the Caliphate.

The only question is just how more violent would be dominionism.

 

[Flanders]

This seems to be the analogy that you were looking for:
Dominion Theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To Agit8r: I do not need an analogy to define a theocracy when I see it.

NOTE: The word Dominionist is nothing more than a synonym for totalitarian. Who invented it? It must be new because I cannot find it in my dictionaries.

In 2005, Clarkson enumerated the following characteristics shared by all forms of dominionism:

1. Dominionists celebrate Christian nationalism, in that they believe that the United States once was, and should once again be, a Christian nation. In this way, they deny the Enlightenment roots of American democracy.
2. Dominionists promote religious supremacy, insofar as they generally do not respect the equality of other religions, or even other versions of Christianity.
3. Dominionists endorse theocratic visions, insofar as they believe that the Ten Commandments, or "biblical law," should be the foundation of American law, and that the U.S. Constitution should be seen as a vehicle for implementing Biblical principles.​

Whatever Dominionists are after, enforcing the First Amendment shoots it in the ass before they get started.

More than a brilliant aversion to democracy, there were no roots of democracy in the form of limited form of government Colonial Americans ratified. As a matter of fact, assholes can ascribe roots to anything that is not included in the Constitution. Saul Alinsky even put Communism in the Constitution:

Alinsky wrote the rules for community organizers. According to Alinsky in his book Rules For Radicals the Communists were everywhere, doing wonderful things, even while the Founding Fathers were writing the Constitution. One line really got to me:

The American Radicals were in the colonies grimly forcing the addition of the Bill of Rights to our Constitution.​

Davis also claimed that Communists had a strong influence in founding this country. Both got away with it by substituting the word radical for the word Communist. Put their teachings together with Barack Taqiyya’s words and actions and the conclusion is obvious to me —— his political beliefs were formed by the beliefs of the America-haters who populated his life.

Retelling An Old Lie​

 

[JakeStarkey]

sigh

 

[daws101]

The op has never been in combat.

What unit were you in?

I never claimed I was .
I also have never pretended to a military strategist.
Any more silly questions?