A Win For Originalism…And America

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1.The two views of the Constitution are, either Originalism, or “winning is all that matters.”
The former for conservatives, the latter, Democrats.


An example that might resonate with conservatives, if you sit down to a game of Chess, and agree to ‘touch-move,’ then the other player must make the move if a piece is handled in any way….no taking back a move.

To pose the example for Democrats, when involved in a tough game of Chutes and Ladders, ….no spinning twice.



2. The decision presented this week, of abortion revives America’s founding, based on federalism, where each state retains a great degree of sovereignty, see amendment 10, and reminds that the country is made up of 51 “laboratories of democracy.”

“In its main brief in the case, Mississippi condemns Roe v. Wade and the 1992 decision reaffirming it, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, as “irreconcilable with constitutional text and ‘historical meaning.’” This expresses an “originalist” viewpoint, emphasizing the Constitution must be interpreted based on its text and where necessary on its original meaning at the time it was enacted. Mississippi insists that the Constitution’s silence on abortion, combined with the lack of historical legal protections for it, means the 14th Amendment doesn’t safeguard the abortion right. This gloves-off originalism even maintains that Roe and Casey being non-originalist opinions “provides compelling grounds to overrule them.”




3. This decision by the Supremes represents the simple, yet significant view, that the Constitution is important to what America is. The fact is that the only document that Americans have agreed to be governed by is the Constitution. The U.S. Constitution calls itself the "supreme law of the land." This clause is taken to mean that when state constitutions or laws passed by state legislatures or the national Congress found to conflict with the federal Constitution, they have no force, no moment, no effect.

The conflict arises due to the major political party, the Democrat Party, advancing the view that what they wish, and their minions say, supplants the actual English language written in the Constitution. Their political will is more important than the text of the document.



4. Here, the villain who advanced that view:

In July 5, 1935, in a letter to Representative Samuel B. Hill of Washington, the President manifested his contempt for the Constitution. Hill was chairman of the subcommittee studying the Guffey-Vinson bill to regulate the coal industry: the purpose of the legislation was to re-establish, for the coal industry, the NRA code system which the Supreme Court had unanimously declared unconstitutional. Roosevelt wrote: "I hope your committee will not permit doubts as to constitutionality, however reasonable, to block the legislation."



This was the same Roosevelt who had sworn an oath on his 300 year old family Bible, to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Chesly Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 65.





5. “The originalism looks to the original public-meaning of the Constitution and its amendments at the time they were enacted. The meaning of the Constitution must remain the same, until it is properly changed. And it cannot be changed unilaterally by the courts, or even by courts acting in conjunction with other branches of government.”
Professor Randy Barnett, in “Originalism,” Calabrisi, p. 262.



Of course, the understanding requires ethics, morality, and integrity, rarely found in Democrats.
 
Legally, morally, historically, scientifically.



1.The two views of the Constitution are, either Originalism, or “winning is all that matters.”
The former for conservatives, the latter, Democrats.


An example that might resonate with conservatives, if you sit down to a game of Chess, and agree to ‘touch-move,’ then the other player must make the move if a piece is handled in any way….no taking back a move.

To pose the example for Democrats, when involved in a tough game of Chutes and Ladders, ….no spinning twice.



2. The decision presented this week, of abortion revives America’s founding, based on federalism, where each state retains a great degree of sovereignty, see amendment 10, and reminds that the country is made up of 51 “laboratories of democracy.”

“In its main brief in the case, Mississippi condemns Roe v. Wade and the 1992 decision reaffirming it, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, as “irreconcilable with constitutional text and ‘historical meaning.’” This expresses an “originalist” viewpoint, emphasizing the Constitution must be interpreted based on its text and where necessary on its original meaning at the time it was enacted. Mississippi insists that the Constitution’s silence on abortion, combined with the lack of historical legal protections for it, means the 14th Amendment doesn’t safeguard the abortion right. This gloves-off originalism even maintains that Roe and Casey being non-originalist opinions “provides compelling grounds to overrule them.”




3. This decision by the Supremes represents the simple, yet significant view, that the Constitution is important to what America is. The fact is that the only document that Americans have agreed to be governed by is the Constitution. The U.S. Constitution calls itself the "supreme law of the land." This clause is taken to mean that when state constitutions or laws passed by state legislatures or the national Congress found to conflict with the federal Constitution, they have no force, no moment, no effect.

The conflict arises due to the major political party, the Democrat Party, advancing the view that what they wish, and their minions say, supplants the actual English language written in the Constitution. Their political will is more important than the text of the document.



4. Here, the villain who advanced that view:

In July 5, 1935, in a letter to Representative Samuel B. Hill of Washington, the President manifested his contempt for the Constitution. Hill was chairman of the subcommittee studying the Guffey-Vinson bill to regulate the coal industry: the purpose of the legislation was to re-establish, for the coal industry, the NRA code system which the Supreme Court had unanimously declared unconstitutional. Roosevelt wrote: "I hope your committee will not permit doubts as to constitutionality, however reasonable, to block the legislation."



This was the same Roosevelt who had sworn an oath on his 300 year old family Bible, to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Chesly Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 65.





5. “The originalism looks to the original public-meaning of the Constitution and its amendments at the time they were enacted. The meaning of the Constitution must remain the same, until it is properly changed. And it cannot be changed unilaterally by the courts, or even by courts acting in conjunction with other branches of government.”
Professor Randy Barnett, in “Originalism,” Calabrisi, p. 262.



Of course, the understanding requires ethics, morality, and integrity, rarely found in Democrats.
So they are against women to vote, own land and it didn't say a word about abortion. The women are treated like 2nd class citizens, women were raped and incest was the norm. A bunch of white men wrote the constitution and they couldn't describe what a women was, she was lower than dirt.
 
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So they are against women to vote, own land and it didn't say a word about abortion. The women are treated like 2nd class citizens, women were raped and incest was the norm. A bunch of white men wrote the constitution and they couldn't describe what a women was, she was lower than dirt.
Has anyone ever seen so many lame leftist talking-point platitudes in one post? I think this one takes the prize. If the poster ever had an original thought, the world would probably have to stop spinning for a minute to catch its breath.
 
So they are against women to vote, own land and it didn't say a word about abortion. The women are treated like 2nd class citizens, women were raped and incest was the norm. A bunch of white men wrote the constitution and they couldn't describe what a women was, she was lower than dirt.


Did you know that Republicans gave women the right to vote?

Do you know the percent of the 63 million murders of babes that are due to rape or incest???

I do....and it was never 'the norm.'


So you're a government school grad????
 
Has anyone ever seen so many lame leftist talking-point platitudes in one post? I think this one takes the prize. If the poster ever had an original thought, the world would probably have to stop spinning for a minute to catch its breath.


It is amazing.


But.....that one is the poster child for Democrat voters.
 
6. On Sunday, July 29, 2012, Justice Scalia was interviewed by Bryan Lamb on C-Span. The Justice has a new book out, “ Reading the Law.”

He explained that, first, he was a “Textualist,” meaning that the foremost guidance for judges must be the actual words, the text, of the Constitution.

Beyond that, he is an “Originalist,” meaning that the words must be read with an understanding of what they meant at the time the Constitution was written.



Consider the alternative: the rules/laws under which Americans must live would be changed with each new administration, each new whim or wish, and, with Democrats…..each new insanity:
Men can be women, you can kill newborns months after birth, legal hearings would allow only one side to speak, those with different views could be jailed.


Just imagine a Joe Biden re-writing the Constitution.
 
6. On Sunday, July 29, 2012, Justice Scalia was interviewed by Bryan Lamb on C-Span. The Justice has a new book out, “ Reading the Law.”

He explained that, first, he was a “Textualist,” meaning that the foremost guidance for judges must be the actual words, the text, of the Constitution.

Beyond that, he is an “Originalist,” meaning that the words must be read with an understanding of what they meant at the time the Constitution was written.



Consider the alternative: the rules/laws under which Americans must live would be changed with each new administration, each new whim or wish, and, with Democrats…..each new insanity:
Men can be women, you can kill newborns months after birth, legal hearings would allow only one side to speak, those with different views could be jailed.


Just imagine a Joe Biden re-writing the Constitution.
I think that America has lost the facility for critical thinking that the Founders had, and also the deeper understanding of language that they had as well. Most public school educated Americans can't even read the Constitution with enough knowledge to begin to understand it, JoeBob Skidmark included.
 
I think that America has lost the facility for critical thinking that the Founders had, and also the deeper understanding of language that they had as well. Most public school educated Americans can't even read the Constitution with enough knowledge to begin to understand it, JoeBob Skidmark included.


I had a good friend who posited that the number of IQ points in the world stays the same, but need be divided by the ever increasing number of people.....
 

7. “An Originalist Victory

The Supreme Court’s Dobbs ruling is a tremendous success for the constitutional theory around which conservatives rallied for nearly half a century.

To acknowledge this achievement is to acknowledge the constitutional theory around which the coalition that brought it about rallied for a half-century: originalism. It was originalism that the pro-life movement adopted after Roe and supported through the confirmation defeat of Robert Bork; the attempted defeats of Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and Brett Kavanaugh; and the setback of Casey. The goal of overruling Roe and Casey bound the conservative political movement to the conservative legal movement, and originalism was their common constitutional theory.”
Dobbs Abortion Ruling Is a Triumph for Originalists | City Journal





If there is disagreement, the only argument available is to find any mention of abortion in the Constitution.

Or….to cleave to this argument:

"We are under a Constitution, but the Constitution is what the judges say it is, and the judiciary is the safeguard of our liberty and of our property under the Constitution."
Speech before the Chamber of Commerce, Elmira, New York (3 May 1907); published in Addresses and Papers of Charles Evans Hughes, Governor of New York, 1906–1908 (1908), p. 139

And this was a Republican.....clearly not a conservative.
 

The basis of the American nation is the Constitution.​



Yet Democrats don't care for the Constitution.

“To hell with the Supreme Court. We will defy them.”​

Shortly after justices released the Dobbs decision, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) responded by saying, “To hell with the Supreme Court. We will defy them.”

While nothing requires people to endorse any Supreme Court decision, few politicians since President Andrew Jackson or former segregationist Democrat George Corley Wallace have called for actively ignoring its rulings. While dissenting from a decision may be the right choice at times, some believe it straddles the line of undermining the High Court’s legitimacy. “Sounds very insurrectiony for a member of Congress,” retorted the principled conservative group ForAmerica."


One can be either an American......or a Democrat.
It appears the two are mutually exclusive.
 
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“I ****ING LOVE KILLING BABIES”: Sick, twisted liberal maniac rages, screaming his truth in pro-life faces

The abortion-loving left is proud of no action they take more than the killing of innocent children. It is their most precious and treasured value and they cannot stop talking and stalking about it. The protests at Supreme Court Justices homes, in the streets of major cities, and directly in front of the Supreme Court have shown this gory bloodthirst over and over.

And one twisted maniac gave voice to that truth in as loud and assaulting a way as possible yesterday, as Drew Hernandez revealed

 
Tell me again how it was Trump supporters, the Right, that was responsible for violence Jan6.


Here are the very same people, those agents provocateurs, doing what they always do.


 
8. The view of Liberal judges is that they can ‘interpret’ the Constitution to mean whatsoever they choose…..as in the 1973 abortion decision.

One of the worst of these fake Justices is Justice Wm. Brennan, jr…1985 Georgetown speech supported the “transformative purpose” of the Constitution, in which he argued for an “aspiration to social justice, brotherhood, and human dignity…”

Brennan falls back on the idea that moderns should not be bound by “a world that is dead and gone.” Of course, there are lots of laws on the books today by folks dead and gone: Social Security laws, or the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or the Sixteenth Amendment imposing an income tax, and all nine justices who participated in Roe v. Wade are now dead. Would Brennan suggest ignoring any of these….or does he simply wish to allow judges to pick and choose which laws written by dead people we are to be bound by? No, this ‘transformative’ view would simply allow justices to erase parts of the Constitution. (Calabrisi)



And that is the aim of Liberal/Democrat judges.
 
9. The view behind originalism is that the rules for the founding of America are in said document. This is not to say that they cannot be changed: the Constitution’s writers anticipated a need for alteration, and included it in “Article V, which sets forth the amendment process, is the key to the Constitution's success. It establishes a process where adding amendments is not too easy, which would make the Constitution more like statutory law and less permanent—but also not too difficult, which would make violent revolution more likely. A proposed amendment must pass a two-thirds vote in both houses of Congress, or if two-thirds of the states petition Congress, a new constitutional convention can be called to consider amendments. In any event, three-fourths of the state legislatures must ratify the amendment for it to become a permanent part of the Constitution.”
https://www.pbs.org/tpt/constitution-usa-peter-sagal/we-the-people/damendment-process/



If you believe polls….and that might be a mistake after all the media lies we’ve seen exposed over the last few years, then you’d imagine that the majority favors killing the unborn.

If you do, then answer this: why hasn’t the Left offered an amendment that codified Roe any day over the last half century????
 
10. To move this discussion into a different realm, not political, nor legal….give the answers to this quiz:

a. when does science say life begins?(when two strands of DNA join to form a new and distinct human being)

b. what does science say about the two separate bodies involved in an abortion? (It’s not ‘her body’)

c. what percent of the 63 million abortions done via Roe are for rape or incest? (if we make exception for rape and incest, will you ban abortion?)

d. at what point does the prospective mom have the ability not to have a child, without the step of murder? (she already had her chance not to have a child)

e. Is ending the life of another human being murder? (or at least homicide?)



Why will no pro-abortion advocate give the answers to these questions?

You know why.
 

Our cup runneth over!!!!!!!!!!​

"Supreme Court Sides With Coach Over Prayers on 50-Yard Line

Joseph Kennedy, a former high school football coach in Bremerton, Wash., had a constitutional right to pray on the field after his team’s games, the justices ruled.:
 
Why is it your sort are never able to post a substantive response to a post that gets under your scales?

Is it due to the damage done by government schooling, or did you begin live with the disability???
You're post are lying BS by RWNJ's that think their idea's are "originalist".

Gaslighting only works are morons.
 

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