Was there ever really a "Constitutional right" to have an abortion?

[Winco]

Trump is "religious"?

You could read passages from different religions and trump would be unable to tell you anything about that passage.

Yes, we have a Constitutional right to privacy.
But not the right to murder another human being

If ONLY a fetus was a human being.

 

[Winco]

and half of us didn't want the government to imprison the other half, like now.

That's funny, because if it is unclear which political side you support, then you wouldn't know which side you were talking about.

"Lock her up"............ ring a bell?
"He Belongs in Prison"......said by both sides.

 

[Sunni Man]

If ONLY a fetus was a human being.

The fetus inside a woman is a pre-born human being.
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[Winco]

The fetus inside a woman is a pre-born human being.
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Right, therefore the difference between a FETUS and a HUMAN BEING.

If you want to claim that a fetus has the same rights as a born human being, that's great, you have every right to that claim.
It doesn't make you correct though.

Trump claims he could Shoot (and I include KILL) a 'person on 5th avenue and he wouldn't lose ANY votes.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

If trump did this, would YOU still vote for him, he says you would.

 

[Winco]

Sunni Man

Would trump retain your vote, like he claims, if he shot someone?

 

[Sunni Man]

Would trump retain your vote, like he claims, if he shot someone?

I would still vote for Trump because the person probably deserved it.
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[Winco]

I would still vote for Trump because the person probably deserved it.
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Well there you go.

Protect an unborn fetus and call it Murder, no matter what the situation.

but

Protect POS trump because, the other person 'deserved it'

You can't make this shit up.
But you just did......WOW.

 

[Sunni Man]

Protect POS trump because, the other person 'deserved it'

Correct.
Was the person trying to rob him?
Broke into his house?
Threatening his family?
Trump shooting a violent criminal wouldn't stop me from voting for him. ....
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[Blaster]

Abortion is not nor has it ever been a constitutional right.

 

[merrill]

I was listening to the car radio this morning and an anti-Trump ad came on. In the ad, they said that Donald Trump wants to deny women their "Constitutional right" to abortions, which is silly. Why does the left lie like that?

"The majority opinion was written by Justice Alito and joined by Justices Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett. In it, Justice Alito writes that “stare decisis, the doctrine on which Casey’s controlling opinion was based, does not compel unending adherence to Roe’s abuse of judicial authority.” He goes on to say that “the Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.” Then, the opinion discusses abortion’s divergence from other Court rulings and the overextending authority of Roe..

The abortion right is also critically different from any other right that this Court has held to fall within the Fourteenth Amendment’s protection of ‘liberty.’ Roe’s defenders characterize the abortion right as similar to the rights recognized in past decisions involving matters such as intimate sexual relations, contraception, and marriage, but abortion is fundamentally different, as both Roe and Casey acknowledged, because it destroys what those decisions called ‘fetal life’ and what the law now before us describes as an ‘unborn' human being.

So, is abortion a constitutional right? No. Far from it. The legal rulings that previously declared abortion as a right lacked constitutionality. The majority opinions in Roe and Casey even acknowledge that the Constitution doesn’t protect abortion as a “fundamental right.” With the recent Dobbs ruling, the Supreme Court ruled solely on what is written in the Constitution instead of loosely implied – including the right to life.

The country is now closer to the Constitution’s intent than ever before. By protecting men and women’s safety both in and out of the womb, we are returning to our country’s equality-granting, fundamental, life-affirming roots."

Is Abortion A Constitutional Right?

Absolutely yes there was. How did the fascist supreme court get away with abolishing the Right to Choose? A constitutional amendment should have been the mandate. Don't expand eliminate the Supreme Court!!!

 

[Rawley]

Until the religious right started picking justices there was.

And prior to 1973, for 180+ years there wasn't.

 

[merrill]

Absolutely yes there was. How did the fascist supreme court get away with abolishing the Right to Choose? A constitutional amendment should have been the mandate. Don't expand eliminate the Supreme Court!!!

Constitutional Protection for the Right to Abortion: From Roe to Casey to Whole Woman’s Health
In its landmark ruling in Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), the Supreme Court recognized that the right to abortion is a fundamental liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution. Since Roe the Court has repeatedly reaffirmed the Constitution’s protection for this essential liberty, which guarantees each individual the right to make personal decisions about family and childbearing. Accordingly, the Court has made clear that it cannot dismiss “the certain cost of overruling Roe for people who have ordered their thinking and living around that case.” Planned Parenthood of Se. Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 856 (1992). Over the decades since the Court first held that the Constitution encompasses protection for the right to abortion, including its most recent decision, Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt, 136 S. Ct. 2292 (2016), as revised (June 27, 2016), it has also recognized that without access to abortion, the right is meaningless.

 

[merrill]

Constitutional Protection for the Right to Abortion: From Roe to Casey to Whole Woman’s Health
In its landmark ruling in Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), the Supreme Court recognized that the right to abortion is a fundamental liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.


Since Roe the Court has repeatedly reaffirmed the Constitution’s protection for this essential liberty, which guarantees each individual the right to make personal decisions about family and childbearing.


Accordingly, the Court has made clear that it cannot dismiss “the certain cost of overruling Roe for people who have ordered their thinking and living around that case.” Planned Parenthood of Se. Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 856 (1992).

Over the decades since the Court first held that the Constitution encompasses protection for the right to abortion, including its most recent decision, Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt, 136 S. Ct. 2292 (2016), as revised (June 27, 2016), it has also recognized that without access to abortion, the right is meaningless.

 

[Crepitus]

And prior to 1973, for 180+ years there wasn't.

It was there, but nobody had ruled on it yet.

 

[dblack]

It was there, but nobody had ruled on it yet.

Yep. Most people don't really get the ninth amendment.

 

[surada]

There was no enumerated right. Why can't States amend their Constitutions to create it at the State level?

There's no mention of health-care in the constitution.

 

[martybegan]

There's no mention of health-care in the constitution.

There is also no mention of the internet, radio or television, but reasonable extrapolation for modern tech or concepts can happen.

What the left does however is create brand new concepts just because they feel like it.

 

[PeterPilot]

I was listening to the car radio this morning and an anti-Trump ad came on. In the ad, they said that Donald Trump wants to deny women their "Constitutional right" to abortions, which is silly. Why does the left lie like that?

"The majority opinion was written by Justice Alito and joined by Justices Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett. In it, Justice Alito writes that “stare decisis, the doctrine on which Casey’s controlling opinion was based, does not compel unending adherence to Roe’s abuse of judicial authority.” He goes on to say that “the Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.” Then, the opinion discusses abortion’s divergence from other Court rulings and the overextending authority of Roe..

The abortion right is also critically different from any other right that this Court has held to fall within the Fourteenth Amendment’s protection of ‘liberty.’ Roe’s defenders characterize the abortion right as similar to the rights recognized in past decisions involving matters such as intimate sexual relations, contraception, and marriage, but abortion is fundamentally different, as both Roe and Casey acknowledged, because it destroys what those decisions called ‘fetal life’ and what the law now before us describes as an ‘unborn' human being.

So, is abortion a constitutional right? No. Far from it. The legal rulings that previously declared abortion as a right lacked constitutionality. The majority opinions in Roe and Casey even acknowledge that the Constitution doesn’t protect abortion as a “fundamental right.” With the recent Dobbs ruling, the Supreme Court ruled solely on what is written in the Constitution instead of loosely implied – including the right to life.

The country is now closer to the Constitution’s intent than ever before. By protecting men and women’s safety both in and out of the womb, we are returning to our country’s equality-granting, fundamental, life-affirming roots."

Is Abortion A Constitutional Right?

Do you give any credence to the Ninth Amendment? Have you even read the Ninth?

For rational public dialogue purposes, here is is, one sentence, very simple. I hope you will contemplate it.

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny others retained by the people.

As James Madison noted somewhere in the Federalist Papers, what it really means is that an exhaustive listing of the rights of man is impossible. For example, may I not walk down the beach because that right is not listed in the document?

 

[surada]

I would still vote for Trump because the person probably deserved it.
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So you're an advocate of vigilante justice? Trump is dumb as hell. You think he'd be judge and jury?

 

[task0778]

There is no Constitutional right not to get an abortion either. It is about liberty of a human controlling what happens with their own body versus state control.

My question to you and other right to abortion people is what about the rights of the unborn? Why is it that you don't give a damn about the kid while he/she is still in the womb? I don't see how you can declare a baby to have rights 5 seconds after he/she is born but not 5 seconds before.