A Thought on Judaism...no "pie in the sky"

[USAF 2023]

Again you have failed to comprehend a simple truth.

If scripture is true and God is God you are already in hell, dead, and on your way to destruction.

You openly defy the law of God, desecrate the teachings of Jesus, celebrate the torture and death of Jesus, and worship and eat the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life.

That is insane.

You are so lost you don't even have an inkling how pathetic your obstinate stupidity is

You have your reward already!

Have a question that no “ Christian” is able to answer. Isn’t the “ torture and death of Jesus” was HIS FATHER’S PLAN??
“ Christians” do not follow the teachings of “ Jesus”

 

[ding]

Again you have failed to comprehend a simple truth.

If scripture is true and God is God you are already in hell, dead, and on your way to destruction.

You openly defy the law of God, desecrate the teachings of Jesus, celebrate the torture and death of Jesus, and worship and eat the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life.

That is insane.

You are so lost you don't even have an inkling how pathetic your obstinate stupidity is

You have your reward already!

You are really swinging for the fences at warmed over arian staidum, Patrick.

I don't really listen to anything Jilbrator Whippersnaps have to say.

 

[hobelim]

Have a question that no “ Christian” is able to answer. Isn’t the “ torture and death of Jesus” was HIS FATHER’S PLAN??
“ Christians” do not follow the teachings of “ Jesus”

Of course you are right. Christians profess to believe that the law was abolished. Not Jesus;

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven..."

Matthew 5:17-20


To understand what Jesus meant by saying 'least' in the kingdom of Heaven see Genesis 3:14

 

[surada]

Have a question that no “ Christian” is able to answer. Isn’t the “ torture and death of Jesus” was HIS FATHER’S PLAN??
“ Christians” do not follow the teachings of “ Jesus”

God's plan ? Pretty awful, isn't it?

Why do you say Christians don't follow the teachings of Jesus? How are they different from Jewish people?

 

[ding]

Of course you are right. Christians profess to believe that the law was abolished. Not Jesus;

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven..."

Matthew 5:17-20


To understand what Jesus meant by saying 'least' in the kingdom of Heaven see Genesis 3:14

The Judgment of the Nations.*
31f “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne,
32g and all the nations* will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
36naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’
37Then the righteous* will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
38When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
39When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
40i And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
41* j Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42k For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
43a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’
44* Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’
45He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’
46l And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

 

[hobelim]

The Judgment of the Nations.*
31f “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne,
32g and all the nations* will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
36naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’
37Then the righteous* will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
38When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
39When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
40i And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
41* j Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42k For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
43a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’
44* Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’
45He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’
46l And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

You defy the law of God, desecrate the teachings of Jesus, the Actual Body of Christ, worship a lifeless matzo and eat it for spiritual life even though it cannot see, hear, speak or walk.


Pssst!

You are not righteous. You are an actor and lying fraud who perjures himself in the name of God daily.

I won't tell you to go to hell because you are already in it.

 

[ding]

You defy the law of God, desecrate the teachings of Jesus, the Actual Body of Christ, worship a lifeless matzo and eat it for spiritual life even though it cannot see, hear, speak or walk.


Pssst!

You are not righteous. You are an actor and lying fraud who perjures himself in the name of God daily.

I won't tell you to go to hell because you are already in it.

And Jesus said...

19If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own; but because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world, the world hates you.o
20Remember the word I spoke to you,* ‘No slave is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours.p
21And they will do all these things to you on account of my name,* because they do not know the one who sent me.q

 

[USAF 2023]

God's plan ? Pretty awful, isn't it?

Why do you say Christians don't follow the teachings of Jesus? How are they different from Jewish people?

Jews haven’t been persecuting Christians for over 2000 years. Jews weren’t told over and over again that they were “ Christ Killers”
I have posted many links RE; The Antisemitism of the Catholic Church
Just a FEW examples

 

[surada]

Jews haven’t been persecuting Christians for over 2000 years. Jews weren’t told over and over again that they were “ Christ Killers”
I have posted many links RE; The Antisemitism of the Catholic Church
Just a FEW examples

Well, by all means keep it going..

 

[USAF 2023]

Well, by all means keep it going..

I didn’t give you enough?

 

[Viktor]

While I have read the Torah and some commentaries, I have only a passing understanding of jewish beliefs. I also have the distinct impression that there is a very broad range of beliefs within judaism about very basic issues. Hell, some jews admit to being atheists and agnostics.

But it is my distinct understanding that judaism has no formalized or universal belief in an afterlife, and individual jews have beliefs that are "all over the lot," on that subject. Some believe that dead is dead...done and gone. Others have varying different beliefs about conditions in the hereafter, who will end up there, and so on. Dennis Prager bases his belief on a belief that God is "just." If that is the case, the a virtuous life will be rewarded in the afterlife and an evil life will be punished - if only with oblivion. Indeed, if God is just, then there MUST be a "balancing" in the afterlife because many virtuous people die penniless and wretched, and any evil people die in the lap of luxury, so to speak.

But the more important question is how the lack of a "pie in the sky" impacts the day to day decisions of jews in how to conduct their affairs. If there is no accountability, then the Torah can speak of moral and ethical behavior, and emphasize it, but there are (obviously) no ramifications for most people. This is clearly observable in life.

Christians are encouraged to "love" everyone, especially their "enemies," and Christian charities thrive all over the world, educating, feeding, housing, and providing medical care to people who may or may not believe anything that Christianity teaches. Most Christians believe that these good works will impact how they live out "eternity," so to speak.

Jewish charities tend to benefit exclusively jews (correct me if I'm wrong). Are there any avowedly Muslim charities. Bhuddist charities, etc.? I don't know.

There is a perception abroad - maybe it's just bigotry - that jews tend to (a) be entrepreneurial - which is understandable, and (b) they tend to lean toward businesses that exploit the exploitable...pawn shops, check cashing businesses, jewelry stores, slum apartment buildings, flashy clothing stores in "urban" neighborhoods, and so on. These are things that "Christians" tend to shy away from, as they are unseemly.

So again, how does the lack of a Pie in the Sky affect the everyday decision making of "good jews"? Or does it? I have never seen any study that explored the moral or ethical behavior of different religious groups. Does such a study exist?

What you are is lazy

Judaism 101 (JewFAQ)

An encyclopedia of information about Judaism, Jewish practices, holidays, people and beliefs. For beginners, intermediate or advanced readers.

www.jewfaq.org

 

[irosie91]

Who teaches you that only Jewish people are demonized?

as a group-----only in churches. In mosques jews and christians and hindus and zoroastrians etc etc etc-----are ALL demonized

 

[Clyde 154]

Too bad you don’t demonize the 99.9 percent of Christians that are Hypocrites . “ Christians” believe “ My way or the Highway?” Another excuse for preaching Jewish hate and intolerance

Deflection: An attempt to move away from a losing argument while attempting to shift blame to another. Have you seen me defending Christian Hypocrisy as you have just charged? Its clear to see that LYING your ASS OFF is not beneath your moral code. How many times have I posted about the hypocrisy of the TV evangelicals who state, "God loves you, but send your money to my address." ? Its a simple thing to present the Post where I defended Christian Hypocrisy...if not, why not? Because there are no such posts.


Answer: Truth is the basis for morality.....its not seeking the accolades of men, but the approval of God. There can be only ONE TRUTH and its the same for everyone. I do not profess to writing one word found to exist within the scriptures, I simply defend the truth found therein.

As I said previously. I am to be judged by the words found in the those BOOKS.........not YOU. You are typical of some liberal always playing the victim card......attempting to tug on the heartstrings of the gullible. Its always the LIBERAL that introduces the things they wish to charge others of committing. Look through the archives .......... you present your dirty laundry on the WWW and then attempt to charge others of invading your privacy.

As My Pappy said, "Don't urinate down my back then tell me to relax ITS ONLY RAIN."

Your type profess to believe in the freedom of speech, but the first to feign offense and charge others of hate when you disagree with that free speech. If you don't want the answer.......don't ask the question.

 

[Viktor]

Just a few facts.
The Jewish population makes up but 2% of the US population. There are roughly about 330 million people in the US. Of all those claiming Jewish heritage (as if religion makes up a race of peoples) there are only about 10% of these that actually PRACTICE orthodox Judaism (Basic). That means that about 90% of the so called faith have not seen the inside of a temple since Moses was a child.

WRONG. The Orthodox represent only 10% of the world's Jews. Conservative and Reform Jews are the rest and most of them go to synagogue.

What you are is an antisemite. Judaism is not Christianity and we don't give a shit what you believe.

 

[USAF 2023]

Deflection: An attempt to move away from a losing argument while attempting to shift blame to another. Have you seen me defending Christian Hypocrisy as you have just charged? Its clear to see that LYING your ASS OFF is not beneath your moral code. How many times have I posted about the hypocrisy of the TV evangelicals who state, "God loves you, but send your money to my address." ? Its a simple thing to present the Post where I defended Christian Hypocrisy...if not, why not? Because there are no such posts.


Answer: Truth is the basis for morality.....its not seeking the accolades of men, but the approval of God. There can be only ONE TRUTH and its the same for everyone. I do not profess to writing one word found to exist within the scriptures, I simply defend the truth found therein.

As I said previously. I am to be judged by the words found in the those BOOKS.........not YOU. You are typical of some liberal always playing the victim card......attempting to tug on the heartstrings of the gullible. Its always the LIBERAL that introduces the things they wish to charge others of committing. Look through the archives .......... you present your dirty laundry on the WWW and then attempt to charge others of invading your privacy.

As My Pappy said, "Don't urinate down my back then tell me to relax ITS ONLY RAIN."

Your type profess to believe in the freedom of speech, but the first to feign offense and charge others of hate when you disagree with that free speech. If you don't want the answer.......don't ask the question.

I am NOT “ lying my Ass off” Just stating a fact. The Christian Religion” teaches” GOD sent his “ only son” down to die for our Sins yet the “ Christian” Religion teaches that the Jews were “ Christ Killers?” What you write is irrelevant

 

[irosie91]

I am NOT “ lying my Ass off” Just stating a fact. The Christian Religion” teaches” GOD sent his “ only son” down to die for our Sins yet the “ Christian” Religion teaches that the Jews were “ Christ Killers?” What you write is irrelevant

the problem is THE BOOK to which Clyde refers. It confuses him. He actually believes that it is divine

 

[Mindful]

Tzedakah is hard wired into Jewish faith.

With no thought of self promotion to make oneself feel good.

Or guarantee of other worldly rewards.

 

[rupol2000]

But it is my distinct understanding that judaism has no formalized or universal belief in an afterlife, and individual jews have beliefs that are "all over the lot," on that subject.

As far as I remember, Judeo-Christianity is a mixture of materialism and creationism. They believe not in the afterlife, but in the fact that after the judgment on earth, corpses will rise and live in a special kingdom on the earth.

 

[rupol2000]

correct me if I'm wrong

You wrong at all. Christianity, Judaism and Islam almost the same. This is abrahamistic religions on the same scriptures

 

[Viktor]

You wrong at all. Christianity, Judaism and Islam almost the same. This is abrahamistic religions on the same scriptures

YOU ARE INSANE