A revolt is growing as more people refuse to pay back student loans

[ChrisL]

There's always a "way" if you really ant it.

Not in today's day and age. You are wrong.

No, no I am not.... I know people doing so. Unfortunately, too many like you have the "Can't do" attitude which will not take you very far in life... brace yourself.

Oh really? You know people? What a lame argument. Post links and stats.

how about we do it this way....

Are you saying that no one who is poor is currently going to college?

He doesn't know what he is saying... but I do... he is saying "it's the easy way or no way".

How childish.

That's she, and you are wrong. READ the links please.

Why Is Tuition So High Three Economists Debate - WSJ

DR. FICHTENBAUM: One of the most important factors driving price at public colleges and universities has been the decline in state support for higher education. Between 1987 and 2012, in real dollars, government support has declined from $8,497 to $5,906 per student.

ENLARGE
--
The second major culprit is rising costs. Critics of higher education often blame faculty salaries for rising costs. However, when measured in constant dollars, salaries for full-time faculty at public institutions have actually declined. What is driving costs is the metastasizing army of administrators with bloated salaries, and our university presidents who are now paid as though they were CEOs running a business—and not a very successful one at that.

There is also the growth in entertainment spending and spending on amenities. Many universities claim that they must compete and therefore have borrowed millions to build luxury dorms, new dining halls and rock-climbing walls. They also spend millions subsidizing intercollegiate athletics.

 

[ChrisL]

Not anymore.

Bullshit... it can be done... you just want the easy way out.

Good luck with that you childish brat.

The average minimum-wage paying job only pays around $15,000 a year, fool.

lol.

You really don't get it. Do you.

You are too far gone to ever be open minded.

No, it's YOU who isn't getting it. I've posted links that PROVE me right. You just don't like it, so now you're going to go into an ignorant temper tantrum. Why don't you read the links and educate yourself?

Uh...excuse me....I have been deeply involved in academics and the education and opportunity securement of individuals here in the NYC area for the bulk of my career.

So lets discuss your idea...with an open mind.

What criteria would you set as a requirement for one to get an education for free?

Good grades, good attendance and a long-term plan.

 

[Jarhead]

what High Shool GPA would be required for free college?

 

[Jarhead]

Bullshit... it can be done... you just want the easy way out.

Good luck with that you childish brat.

The average minimum-wage paying job only pays around $15,000 a year, fool.

lol.

You really don't get it. Do you.

You are too far gone to ever be open minded.

No, it's YOU who isn't getting it. I've posted links that PROVE me right. You just don't like it, so now you're going to go into an ignorant temper tantrum. Why don't you read the links and educate yourself?

Uh...excuse me....I have been deeply involved in academics and the education and opportunity securement of individuals here in the NYC area for the bulk of my career.

So lets discuss your idea...with an open mind.

What criteria would you set as a requirement for one to get an education for free?

Good grades, good attendance and a long-term plan.

what are good grades in your eyes?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Not in today's day and age. You are wrong.

No, no I am not.... I know people doing so. Unfortunately, too many like you have the "Can't do" attitude which will not take you very far in life... brace yourself.

Oh really? You know people? What a lame argument. Post links and stats.

how about we do it this way....

Are you saying that no one who is poor is currently going to college?

He doesn't know what he is saying... but I do... he is saying "it's the easy way or no way".

How childish.

That's she, and you are wrong. READ the links please.

Why Is Tuition So High Three Economists Debate - WSJ

DR. FICHTENBAUM: One of the most important factors driving price at public colleges and universities has been the decline in state support for higher education. Between 1987 and 2012, in real dollars, government support has declined from $8,497 to $5,906 per student.

ENLARGE
--
The second major culprit is rising costs. Critics of higher education often blame faculty salaries for rising costs. However, when measured in constant dollars, salaries for full-time faculty at public institutions have actually declined. What is driving costs is the metastasizing army of administrators with bloated salaries, and our university presidents who are now paid as though they were CEOs running a business—and not a very successful one at that.

There is also the growth in entertainment spending and spending on amenities. Many universities claim that they must compete and therefore have borrowed millions to build luxury dorms, new dining halls and rock-climbing walls. They also spend millions subsidizing intercollegiate athletics.

Whatever... you're not listening. Like I said, I had to forgo the "college experience" and be a commuter, part-time student in order to get my education. I couldn't afford to go off to college, live in a dorm, etc.

But, I got my education... which was the goal.

It can, and is being done all over this country. You're being childish and close-minded.

 

[thereisnospoon]

No, no I am not.... I know people doing so. Unfortunately, too many like you have the "Can't do" attitude which will not take you very far in life... brace yourself.

you are correct. If one wants to do it, they find a way.

The real problem we have nowadays is people like Chris who say "you cant do that on your own"

I always relay my personal experience... yes, I wanted to go to Tulane... Tulane was $20k at the time, so that was out.. the University of New Orleans was my next choice.... I couldn't afford full-time, so, I worked fulltime and went to school part-time, evenings and days when I could. Yeah, it took me 6 years.. but I did it.

It can be done.

Not anymore.

Bullshit... it can be done... you just want the easy way out.

Good luck with that you childish brat.

The average minimum-wage paying job only pays around $15,000 a year, fool.

And? Most min wage earners are teens and retirees working for small business and working part time. And they make up less than 1% of all wage earners.
Non factor.
Your inability to stay on point indicates your argument has run out of gas....Stand down

 

[Jarhead]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

Exactly... it's the free way or no way. like I said... good luck with that.

 

[ChrisL]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

That's what a GPA is, moron. You just want to be a douchebag. Okay. See ya.

 

[Jarhead]

No, no I am not.... I know people doing so. Unfortunately, too many like you have the "Can't do" attitude which will not take you very far in life... brace yourself.

Oh really? You know people? What a lame argument. Post links and stats.

how about we do it this way....

Are you saying that no one who is poor is currently going to college?

He doesn't know what he is saying... but I do... he is saying "it's the easy way or no way".

How childish.

That's she, and you are wrong. READ the links please.

Why Is Tuition So High Three Economists Debate - WSJ

DR. FICHTENBAUM: One of the most important factors driving price at public colleges and universities has been the decline in state support for higher education. Between 1987 and 2012, in real dollars, government support has declined from $8,497 to $5,906 per student.

ENLARGE
--
The second major culprit is rising costs. Critics of higher education often blame faculty salaries for rising costs. However, when measured in constant dollars, salaries for full-time faculty at public institutions have actually declined. What is driving costs is the metastasizing army of administrators with bloated salaries, and our university presidents who are now paid as though they were CEOs running a business—and not a very successful one at that.

There is also the growth in entertainment spending and spending on amenities. Many universities claim that they must compete and therefore have borrowed millions to build luxury dorms, new dining halls and rock-climbing walls. They also spend millions subsidizing intercollegiate athletics.

Whatever... you're not listening. Like I said, I had to forgo the "college experience" and be a commuter, part-time student in order to get my education. I couldn't afford to go off to college, live in a dorm, etc.

But, I got my education... which was the goal.

It can, and is being done all over this country. You're being childish and close-minded.

wow. I really though he may have been an adult.

However, I can not recall an adult EVER using the term "good grades" while discussing requirements for college. GPA and community involvement....never "good grades"...unless they are telling a child "get good grades and you can become anything you want".

Wow.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

That's what a GPA is, moron. You just want to be a douchebag. Okay. See ya.

GPA = Grade Point Average. GPA <> Good Grades.

Geesh.

 

[ChrisL]

you are correct. If one wants to do it, they find a way.

The real problem we have nowadays is people like Chris who say "you cant do that on your own"

I always relay my personal experience... yes, I wanted to go to Tulane... Tulane was $20k at the time, so that was out.. the University of New Orleans was my next choice.... I couldn't afford full-time, so, I worked fulltime and went to school part-time, evenings and days when I could. Yeah, it took me 6 years.. but I did it.

It can be done.

Not anymore.

Bullshit... it can be done... you just want the easy way out.

Good luck with that you childish brat.

The average minimum-wage paying job only pays around $15,000 a year, fool.

And? Most min wage earners are teens and retirees working for small business and working part time. And they make up less than 1% of all wage earners.
Non factor.
Your inability to stay on point indicates your argument has run out of gas....Stand down

That is wrong.



The overwhelming majority of low-wage earners who would receive a raise by restoring the minimum wage to its historic value are adults who spend their careers in frontline low-wage industries that make our economy run. Fast-growing low-wage jobs like home care are disproportionately held by female and older workers.

Contrary to stereotypes and the repeated claims of minimum wage opponents, the overwhelming majority of low-wage workers are adults, not teens, and they contribute a substantial portion of their households’ incomes. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, three quarters of minimum wage earners are 20 or older.

According to the Economic Policy Institute’s State of Working America, a stunning 35 million Americans – 26 percent of our workforce – earn less than $10.55 an hour.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Oh really? You know people? What a lame argument. Post links and stats.

how about we do it this way....

Are you saying that no one who is poor is currently going to college?

He doesn't know what he is saying... but I do... he is saying "it's the easy way or no way".

How childish.

That's she, and you are wrong. READ the links please.

Why Is Tuition So High Three Economists Debate - WSJ

DR. FICHTENBAUM: One of the most important factors driving price at public colleges and universities has been the decline in state support for higher education. Between 1987 and 2012, in real dollars, government support has declined from $8,497 to $5,906 per student.

ENLARGE
--
The second major culprit is rising costs. Critics of higher education often blame faculty salaries for rising costs. However, when measured in constant dollars, salaries for full-time faculty at public institutions have actually declined. What is driving costs is the metastasizing army of administrators with bloated salaries, and our university presidents who are now paid as though they were CEOs running a business—and not a very successful one at that.

There is also the growth in entertainment spending and spending on amenities. Many universities claim that they must compete and therefore have borrowed millions to build luxury dorms, new dining halls and rock-climbing walls. They also spend millions subsidizing intercollegiate athletics.

Whatever... you're not listening. Like I said, I had to forgo the "college experience" and be a commuter, part-time student in order to get my education. I couldn't afford to go off to college, live in a dorm, etc.

But, I got my education... which was the goal.

It can, and is being done all over this country. You're being childish and close-minded.

wow. I really though he may have been an adult.

However, I can not recall an adult EVER using the term "good grades" while discussing requirements for college. GPA and community involvement....never "good grades"...unless they are telling a child "get good grades and you can become anything you want".

Wow.

He must be one of the "participation trophy" kids Adam Carolla warned about...

 

[ChrisL]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

That's what a GPA is, moron. You just want to be a douchebag. Okay. See ya.

GPA = Grade Point Average. GPA <> Good Grades.

Geesh.

So? How is this relevant to the discussion? Good grades do equal your grade point average, dumbass. In other words, you don't have any argument, so you are going to focus on semantics.

 

[Jarhead]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

That's what a GPA is, moron. You just want to be a douchebag. Okay. See ya.

lol. You don't get it.

When talking about college, you use the term GPA. Colleges don't ask what your "grades" were. Your transcript is in GPA....I don't know any college student or adult who went to college who uses the term "good grades".

You blew it. You've been outed.

 

[ChrisL]

how about we do it this way....

Are you saying that no one who is poor is currently going to college?

He doesn't know what he is saying... but I do... he is saying "it's the easy way or no way".

How childish.

That's she, and you are wrong. READ the links please.

Why Is Tuition So High Three Economists Debate - WSJ

DR. FICHTENBAUM: One of the most important factors driving price at public colleges and universities has been the decline in state support for higher education. Between 1987 and 2012, in real dollars, government support has declined from $8,497 to $5,906 per student.

ENLARGE
--
The second major culprit is rising costs. Critics of higher education often blame faculty salaries for rising costs. However, when measured in constant dollars, salaries for full-time faculty at public institutions have actually declined. What is driving costs is the metastasizing army of administrators with bloated salaries, and our university presidents who are now paid as though they were CEOs running a business—and not a very successful one at that.

There is also the growth in entertainment spending and spending on amenities. Many universities claim that they must compete and therefore have borrowed millions to build luxury dorms, new dining halls and rock-climbing walls. They also spend millions subsidizing intercollegiate athletics.

Whatever... you're not listening. Like I said, I had to forgo the "college experience" and be a commuter, part-time student in order to get my education. I couldn't afford to go off to college, live in a dorm, etc.

But, I got my education... which was the goal.

It can, and is being done all over this country. You're being childish and close-minded.

wow. I really though he may have been an adult.

However, I can not recall an adult EVER using the term "good grades" while discussing requirements for college. GPA and community involvement....never "good grades"...unless they are telling a child "get good grades and you can become anything you want".

Wow.

He must be one of the "participation trophy" kids Adam Carolla warned about...

That's "SHE." Obviously you could use a better education and a class in reading comprehension. Unless of course, you are calling me a "he" to try to insult me because you have no argument and no statistics or links to back up any of your assertions . . . Typical of the loons around here.

 

[Jarhead]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

That's what a GPA is, moron. You just want to be a douchebag. Okay. See ya.

GPA = Grade Point Average. GPA <> Good Grades.

Geesh.

So? How is this relevant to the discussion? Good grades do equal your grade point average, dumbass. In other words, you don't have any argument, so you are going to focus on semantics.

sure...they are the same thing....but those who have already attended college stopped using the term "grades" way back in high school.

It is not the meaning....it is the fact that you used the term. It speaks volumes

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I always relay my personal experience... yes, I wanted to go to Tulane... Tulane was $20k at the time, so that was out.. the University of New Orleans was my next choice.... I couldn't afford full-time, so, I worked fulltime and went to school part-time, evenings and days when I could. Yeah, it took me 6 years.. but I did it.

It can be done.

Not anymore.

Bullshit... it can be done... you just want the easy way out.

Good luck with that you childish brat.

The average minimum-wage paying job only pays around $15,000 a year, fool.

And? Most min wage earners are teens and retirees working for small business and working part time. And they make up less than 1% of all wage earners.
Non factor.
Your inability to stay on point indicates your argument has run out of gas....Stand down

That is wrong.



The overwhelming majority of low-wage earners who would receive a raise by restoring the minimum wage to its historic value are adults who spend their careers in frontline low-wage industries that make our economy run. Fast-growing low-wage jobs like home care are disproportionately held by female and older workers.

Contrary to stereotypes and the repeated claims of minimum wage opponents, the overwhelming majority of low-wage workers are adults, not teens, and they contribute a substantial portion of their households’ incomes. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, three quarters of minimum wage earners are 20 or older.

According to the Economic Policy Institute’s State of Working America, a stunning 35 million Americans – 26 percent of our workforce – earn less than $10.55 an hour.

Try again kid...

Who Earns the Minimum Wage Suburban Teenagers Not Single Parents

 

[ChrisL]

wait....

Good GRADES?

You used the term "GOOD GRADES"?

NOLA is correct. You are a child. I do not debate with children. Adults don't use the term "good grades" unless they are talking to children. By the time they are applying to colleges, they talk in terms of GPA...

Never mind.

You just want to go to college for free. Sorry, bro. There aint no such thing as a free lunch.

Earn it.

Cya.

That's what a GPA is, moron. You just want to be a douchebag. Okay. See ya.

lol. You don't get it.

When talking about college, you use the term GPA. Colleges don't ask what your "grades" were. Your transcript is in GPA....I don't know any college student or adult who went to college who uses the term "good grades".

You blew it. You've been outed.

Nope. You just have no argument to counter me, so you are getting desperate. That much is obvious.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

He doesn't know what he is saying... but I do... he is saying "it's the easy way or no way".

How childish.

That's she, and you are wrong. READ the links please.

Why Is Tuition So High Three Economists Debate - WSJ

DR. FICHTENBAUM: One of the most important factors driving price at public colleges and universities has been the decline in state support for higher education. Between 1987 and 2012, in real dollars, government support has declined from $8,497 to $5,906 per student.

ENLARGE
--
The second major culprit is rising costs. Critics of higher education often blame faculty salaries for rising costs. However, when measured in constant dollars, salaries for full-time faculty at public institutions have actually declined. What is driving costs is the metastasizing army of administrators with bloated salaries, and our university presidents who are now paid as though they were CEOs running a business—and not a very successful one at that.

There is also the growth in entertainment spending and spending on amenities. Many universities claim that they must compete and therefore have borrowed millions to build luxury dorms, new dining halls and rock-climbing walls. They also spend millions subsidizing intercollegiate athletics.

Whatever... you're not listening. Like I said, I had to forgo the "college experience" and be a commuter, part-time student in order to get my education. I couldn't afford to go off to college, live in a dorm, etc.

But, I got my education... which was the goal.

It can, and is being done all over this country. You're being childish and close-minded.

wow. I really though he may have been an adult.

However, I can not recall an adult EVER using the term "good grades" while discussing requirements for college. GPA and community involvement....never "good grades"...unless they are telling a child "get good grades and you can become anything you want".

Wow.

He must be one of the "participation trophy" kids Adam Carolla warned about...

That's "SHE." Obviously you could use a better education and a class in reading comprehension. Unless of course, you are calling me a "he" to try to insult me because you have no argument and no statistics or links to back up any of your assertions . . . Typical of the loons around here.

Oh, you're a chick... cool. Then:

She must be one of the "participation trophy" kids Adam Carolla warned about...