A review of the Alex Pretti Shooting by Active Self Projection

[LibertyKid]

No. What is the takeaway?

Watch the video then.

 

[LibertyKid]

A guy who they were not there to arrest was recording them...they didn’t like it so they killed him.

So you’re walking down the street and if the...I’m not even sure what to call them...cops? decide they want to search you and you happen to take offense...if you have a gun on you you’re ok if you get shot? Great.

He deserved what ever comes out of the result of his choice to bring a concealed gun to a fight with law enforcement.

These quotes are evidence of the point trying to be made and also proves that no one has watched the video.

Pretti was in all rights, allowed to conceal carry in his state. Pretti was allowed to attend a protest, while also legally concealed carrying a firearm.

Neither of those actions proves Pretti was a domestic terrorist nor deserving of death. This is where two truths can be evident at the same time. But the political divisiveness drives people to firmly place their blinders so they can't see to remove their own bias.

Both ICE and Pretti made bad decisions that led to a bad outcome. Maybe if you both would watch the video, your opinion might be shaped differently instead of colored blue or red.

 

[LibertyKid]

We also have to consider that this was not a normal environment, where law officers are fighting with a violent person.

This was an environment in which Democrats have brainwashed their useful idiots into believing ICE are like Nazis rounding up innocent Jews. They have convinced them these are evil people, deserving of death. And the ICE officers know that.

They had a second to make a decision. The poisoned environment, courtesy of Walz and Frey, was such that they were dealing with a potential killer. They chose their own lives over his.

Correct but also, ICE also used way too much force for two people. The lady that was pushed hard to the ground, not needed. Pretti then put his hand on an agent, that's bad, and a felony. ICE sprayed Pretti, multiple times, and has stated in the video, they needed to let the spray "Cook", but they kept spraying. Then ICE had a very heavy hand in handling Pretti. The OC spray would have probably done its job, but who knows, as they decided Pretti needed 5-6 agents to handle him. d

But you're not wrong, that the left are fanning the flames and creating creating even more stressful situations by inviting the public to go out and interfere with law enforcement. If police were across the street to arrest a felon with a warrant, and I went over there, jobless, with a whistle, blue hair, and started yelling, screaming, throwing things at them, you think the police aren't going to detain, arrest, and charge me with obstruction, of course they will. It is no different with ICE agents. Yet, the left can't seem to wrap their heads around it.

 

[LibertyKid]

According to your post, you are saying that because he entered the roadway, that his protest was illegal? Ok, that's interesting. And will probably weigh on the investigation...

He was impededing and his actions can be considered obstruction as well as I understand it.

 

[candycorn]

Correct but also, ICE also used way too much force for two people. The lady that was pushed hard to the ground, not needed. Pretti then put his hand on an agent, that's bad, and a felony. ICE sprayed Pretti, multiple times, and has stated in the video, they needed to let the spray "Cook", but they kept spraying. Then ICE had a very heavy hand in handling Pretti. The OC spray would have probably done its job, but who knows, as they decided Pretti needed 5-6 agents to handle him. d

But you're not wrong, that the left are fanning the flames and creating creating even more stressful situations by inviting the public to go out and interfere with law enforcement. If police were across the street to arrest a felon with a warrant, and I went over there, jobless, with a whistle, blue hair, and started yelling, screaming, throwing things at them, you think the police aren't going to detain, arrest, and charge me with obstruction, of course they will. It is no different with ICE agents. Yet, the left can't seem to wrap their heads around it.

As has been the case since day one with the blob…the cruelty is the point. He orders this stuff through his officials then pretends to offer benevolence.

 

[OODA_Loop]

These quotes are evidence of the point trying to be made and also proves that no one has watched the video.

Pretti was in all rights, allowed to conceal carry in his state. Pretti was allowed to attend a protest, while also legally concealed carrying a firearm.

Neither of those actions proves Pretti was a domestic terrorist nor deserving of death. This is where two truths can be evident at the same time. But the political divisiveness drives people to firmly place their blinders so they can't see to remove their own bias.

Both ICE and Pretti made bad decisions that led to a bad outcome. Maybe if you both would watch the video, your opinion might be shaped differently instead of colored blue or red.

Your assertion that it happened because he was a domestic terrorist or he was deserving is not the casus belli.

He was allowed to carry with a valid CCW permit. He is allowed to protest while doing so.

Pretti placed himself in an antagonistic position where the likelihood of hands on conflict with LE was likely. Highly likely. It is documented that had experienced it before.

Once that hands on melee initiates and your hiding a gun there is a high probability lethal force will be employed. You can’t then microscopically judge LE for actions they take in an instant to protect themselves and the community.

 

[LibertyKid]

Your assertion that it happened because he was a domestic terrorist or he was deserving is not the casus belli.

He was allowed to carry with a valid CCW permit. He is allowed to protest while doing so.

Pretti placed himself in an antagonistic position where the likelihood of hands on conflict with LE was likely. Highly likely. It is documented that had experienced it before.

Once that hands on melee initiates and your hiding a gun there is a high probability lethal force will be employed. You can’t then microscopically judge LE for actions they take in an instant to protect themselves and the community.

I didn't say he was. I said he wasn't or if taken that way, a typo on my behalf.

 

[LibertyKid]

As has been the case since day one with the blob…the cruelty is the point. He orders this stuff through his officials then pretends to offer benevolence.

Cruelty is the narrative the left want you to believe.
As you won't point out or refuse to admit, Biden allowed in millions upon millions of immigrants who have put a huge burden on our economy and many are committing egregious crimes and many aren't violent.

The left won't admit that if they could get approval for these immigrants to be allowed to legally vote, they have swayed democratic elections for a century or more. So much for protecting and securing "Democracy".

Immigrants are defrauding the American people of billions and billions in Fraud. But you don't care, you'll keep on responding with some stupid quip about the blob while ignoring all the facts that should allow you to frame a responsible opinion. Keep your face buried in the MSM Leftist sand.

 

[candycorn]

Cruelty is the narrative the left want you to believe.
As you won't point out or refuse to admit, Biden allowed in millions upon millions of immigrants who have put a huge burden on our economy and many are committing egregious crimes and many aren't violent.

Yet the nation added jobs nearly every month of his administration; the economy grew each quarter...whatever the “strain” was...it wasn’t showing.

The left won't admit that if they could get approval for these immigrants to be allowed to legally vote, they have swayed democratic elections for a century or more. So much for protecting and securing "Democracy".

That statement makes no sense. “If they could get approval...” Elections are done on a state-by-state basis. There is a law in all 50 states that only citizens can vote.

Immigrants are defrauding the American people of billions and billions in Fraud. But you don't care, you'll keep on responding with some stupid quip about the blob while ignoring all the facts that should allow you to frame a responsible opinion. Keep your face buried in the MSM Leftist sand.

Was this the same “fraud” that DOGE didn’t find?