A Republican nightmare seems about to become real

[Ralph Norton]

“This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

Based on her testimony only and no other evidence about an incident that may or may not have happened 30 years ago.

 

[Concerned American]

Stop trying to split hairs on semantics my friend. Trump was guilty and it's only a question of whether his lowlife supporters care or not.

Please link to the guilty verdict, duck. You can scream at the moon all you like, but Trump has still not been found GUILTY of ANYTHING.

 

[MagicMike]

You are clearly an associate in the basement of that shithouse. Criminal trials don't award civil penalties moron. He was not found LIABLE on the rape charge but on the simple assault charge. Regardless, their was never a criminal charge filed.

Interesting that you're just ok with it all as long as the wording works for you.
Sexual assault="just fine!"
Rape="Hell NO! I've got standards man!"

 

[MagicMike]

Based on her testimony only and no other evidence about an incident that may or may not have happened 30 years ago.

A jury already decided whether it did or did not happen.
It did.

 

[Concerned American]

Interesting that you're just ok with it all as long as the wording works for you.
Sexual assault="just fine!"
Rape="Hell NO! I've got standards man!"

Not my choice, moron. It is the constitutional justice system in this country. We have a tried and true justice system. If you're not satisfied with it, you can emigrate to Canada or Venezuela or China. They might have a justice system more to your liking.

 

[Ralph Norton]

A jury already decided whether it did or did not happen.
It did.

No one can decide whether or not something happened.
Dumb ass.

 

[deannalw]

You are in a cult.

Phhrrt

You are in a cult

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You are in a cult

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[Concerned American]

A jury already decided whether it did or did not happen.
It did.

Linkie, moron?

 

[Bleipriester]

America needs a 20 years electoral hiatus.

 

[Donald H]

Please link to the guilty verdict, duck. You can scream at the moon all you like, but Trump has still not been found GUILTY of ANYTHING.

Trump was guilty my friend, and now it's up to Americans to 'find' the guilt you've politely asked for. It's none of my business as a Canadian, unless you grant me permission to take part in this discussion.

permission granted for one time only.
Sign here ...................................................

 

[MagicMike]

No one can decide whether or not something happened.
Dumb ass.

How about DETERMINED based upon the preponderance of evidence?
Does that suit you better?

 

[Independent thinker]

“For years now, some Republicans — and, to a large extent, the mainstream media — have harbored the notion that the GOP eventually would come to its senses. Surely, it would eventually dump the unhinged, disloyal, undemocratic and unfit Donald Trump, right?

But if Republicans did not wake from their slumber after the first impeachment or the second, after a jury decided he had lied about sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll, after an indictment accusing him of obstruction and violating the Espionage Act (set out in shocking detail), and after replete evidence of his alleged role in an attempted coup, it is hard to imagine what would bring them to their senses. There is scant evidence that Trump would flee the race to focus on his legal defense; to the contrary, the worse his legal position, the more desperate he becomes to regain power.

Elected Republicans and right-wing media figures have contributed to the predicament as they have minimized, rationalized and denied jaw-dropping allegations against Trump. They have made it easy for Republicans to cling to Trump. Listen, stealing and bandying about top-secret documents isn’t so bad, is it? And, after all, he didn’t do all that much on Jan. 6, 2021, did he?

This is what results when a party, its pundit class and millions of followers cut themselves off from reality, fall into a world of paranoid conspiracies and refuse to simply acknowledge they were very, very wrong to side with him.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/25/trump-nomination-gop-doomed/

Republicans not only rationalize their support for Trump claiming that his crimes are ‘not so bad,’ Republicans claim that Trump didn’t commit any crimes at all – that the appropriate, warranted, and lawful investigations and indictments of Trump are part of a nefarious conspiracy by Trump’s enemies to ‘get Trump.’

Indeed, this wrongheaded perception of Trump by the right has been codified with the lie that there’s a ‘war on Trump,’ another variation of Trump the ‘victim.’

Did it ever occur to you that Republicans don't buy into Democratic abuses of power and the weaponization of government and law enforcement? In fact, many independents don't either. That's where you really need to worry.

 

[MagicMike]

Linkie, moron?

See post #15

 

[Ralph Norton]

How about DETERMINED based upon the preponderance of evidence?
Does that suit you better?

No.
The jury found him liable based on the preponderance of evidence.
In words you might understand: they have no fucking idea what did or did not occur.

 

[1srelluc]

“For years now, some Republicans — and, to a large extent, the mainstream media — have harbored the notion that the GOP eventually would come to its senses. Surely, it would eventually dump the unhinged, disloyal, undemocratic and unfit Donald Trump, right?

But if Republicans did not wake from their slumber after the first impeachment or the second, after a jury decided he had lied about sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll, after an indictment accusing him of obstruction and violating the Espionage Act (set out in shocking detail), and after replete evidence of his alleged role in an attempted coup, it is hard to imagine what would bring them to their senses. There is scant evidence that Trump would flee the race to focus on his legal defense; to the contrary, the worse his legal position, the more desperate he becomes to regain power.

Elected Republicans and right-wing media figures have contributed to the predicament as they have minimized, rationalized and denied jaw-dropping allegations against Trump. They have made it easy for Republicans to cling to Trump. Listen, stealing and bandying about top-secret documents isn’t so bad, is it? And, after all, he didn’t do all that much on Jan. 6, 2021, did he?

This is what results when a party, its pundit class and millions of followers cut themselves off from reality, fall into a world of paranoid conspiracies and refuse to simply acknowledge they were very, very wrong to side with him.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/25/trump-nomination-gop-doomed/

Republicans not only rationalize their support for Trump claiming that his crimes are ‘not so bad,’ Republicans claim that Trump didn’t commit any crimes at all – that the appropriate, warranted, and lawful investigations and indictments of Trump are part of a nefarious conspiracy by Trump’s enemies to ‘get Trump.’

Indeed, this wrongheaded perception of Trump by the right has been codified with the lie that there’s a ‘war on Trump,’ another variation of Trump the ‘victim.’

 

[mamooth]

It was nice of all the Trump cult liars here to all rush to confirm how correct the OP was.

It's rather sad and pathetic. The Trump cult losers here all transformed themselves into fascist dogshit humans because of ... simple butthurt over losing. They're poster children for the banality of evil.

 

[BluesLegend]

LMAO Trump has so savaged the left they have PTSD.

 

[MagicMike]

Democratic abuses of power and the weaponization of government and law enforcement?

You are parroting fake news here.
These aren't a thing.
These accusations are what tin-pot dictators in bannana republics resort to when they get called on their crimes and corruption.
Trump got called on his crimes and corruption and now that he is terrified of having to face the consequences for it he has brainwashed his witless MAGAt sheeple cult to make these allegations against the people holding him accountable.
And you dutifully comply.

 

[whitehall]

Americans are dealing with a true nightmare of a corrupt mentally incompetent president who has his trembling thumb on the nuclear button and a corrupted DOJ and mainstream that would justify everything he did. Not to mention Biden minions who are so full of hatred that they can't think clearly.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dems hated Bush 2 then got a dose of Trump and completely lost their minds.