A quick question about the shutdown.

[leftwinger]

CRs are for funding things already approved, not trillions in new spending, Dumbass.

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Really the whole thing stinks like DEM STAIN lying. $1.5T...is that for two months? For 13 million illegals or citizens. Is it for 10 years? I will do the math on both. note: $800/mo (platinum ++ ACA rate per person) x 2mos = $1.6K per person (times 13 million) ~= $20B (not $1.5 trillion)?

$1.5T/13 million = $115K per person? for two months? WOW!

If $115K is actually over one year.......... 115K/12== $9.6K per person,
divided by 12 = $800 per month? (sounds like an entire premium to me).
So this is FREE HEALTH care....not any supplement? Schemer is lying again?

Over ten years = $115K/10 = $11.5K per person per year.....DIVIDE by 12 = $958 per month per person. WINNING!!!! COSTLY!!

Why do they get Obammy Care Platinum for free? Yet we have to pay? $500/mo per person in a Group work plan is typical.
I am out//

 

[leftwinger]

Wait, what? You clowns whined and cried that the tax cuts for the rich were permanent.

Now you are changing your story.

Call your handlers and ask them to make up your mind, Simp.

Make the top rate 40%? Few of us working stiffs will ever reach that level (as an "income" rate) the dumb Stain.
The Wealthy that do reach the top "Income TAX rate" will pay it or find a way around it?

 

[leftwinger]

The 13M people who would lose healthcare includes exactly ZERO "illegals". About 10% of them are legal asylum seekers that you might want to complain about but ZERO are here illegally. 12M are US citizens. That is gutting healthcare fore the most struggling citizens.

Finally we begin to hear some of them are phony ASSylum seekers. If he says 1million it is probably 10 million in DC truth.

 

[Rawley]

The 13M people who would lose healthcare includes exactly ZERO "illegals". About 10% of them are legal asylum seekers that you might want to complain about but ZERO are here illegally. 12M are US citizens. That is gutting healthcare fore the most struggling citizens.

LOL Good luck with that crock of shit,

 

[drudge X]

The 13M people who would lose healthcare includes exactly ZERO "illegals". About 10% of them are legal asylum seekers that you might want to complain about but ZERO are here illegally. 12M are US citizens. That is gutting healthcare fore the most struggling citizens.

Even Democrats are calling you a liar.

 

[citygator]

Finally we begin to hear some of them are phony ASSylum seekers. If he says 1million it is probably 10 million in DC truth.

Ive cited the original CBO source above. Wouldn’t it be interesting if you became informed and THEN formed an opinion? It’s how you keep from being controlled.. “knowledge is power, belief is shackles”.

 

[citygator]

LOL Good luck with that crock of shit,

I cited my sources. Yours?

 

[citygator]

Even Democrats are calling you a liar.

Again, dipshit, I cited my sources.

 

[Rawley]

I cited my sources. Yours?

The only Americans that would lose healthcare are able bodied idlers that refuse to work. And Biden broke the law when he gave the tens of millions of illegals a piece of paper saying they were asylum seekers or parollees.

"Illegals" is just a short form for "temporary foreigners" if you insist on recognizing Biden's law breaking.

 

[leftwinger]

Obiden lets in 10-15 million. Every one is a "LEGAL ASSYLUM seeker) Deys' say. lol!
Then 1-5 million simply pour across the border during the same time. Most are criminals.
Lets give them free healthcare too or we shut it all down. Take out ball and go home sayeth the lying stain.

Again $1.5T? does not compute for two months. Sounds like Chuckey CHEESE dic wants to pay subsidy for 10 long years to 13 million. The subsidy comes out to 100% payment per person for Platinum Obammy care last time I looked (~$800/mo)

Very suspicious. DEM scum allow 10-15 million in. Then Upchucks number is 13 million. Do the math, STAIN.

 

[citygator]

The only Americans that would lose healthcare are able bodied idlers that refuse to work. And Biden broke the law when he gave the tens of millions of illegals a piece of paper saying they were asylum seekers or parollees.

"Illegals" is just a short form for "temporary foreigners" if you insist on recognizing Biden's law breaking.

You have now revised your position, after I proved you wrong, that 12M people will lose their healthcare but that you are OK with that. That is a fine position to have. It’s honest and informed.

I only have an issue with those denying the outcomes of this CR/Bill not those who are embracing the outcomes. Bravo.

 

[Rawley]

You have now revised your position, after I proved you wrong,

Nah. I, like most rational people, consider them illegals even though they have a piece of paper from Biden.

that 12M people will lose their healthcare but that you are OK with that. That is a fine position to have. It’s honest and informed.

Completely OK with it. If you don't want to work for it, or came here illegally, we're not going to pay for your healthcare.

I only have an issue with those denying the outcomes of this CR/Bill not those who are embracing the outcomes. Bravo.

Dude. This CR is a clean CR to keep the gvt open for seven weeks. ON the work requirements and healthcare for illegals, it was debated and voted on Congress and you lost. ON the subsidies, your cult are the ones that cut them after three years.

All 100% true.

 

[Nostra]

Ive cited the original CBO source above. Wouldn’t it be interesting if you became informed and THEN formed an opinion? It’s how you keep from being controlled.. “knowledge is power, belief is shackles”.

You cited guesses by an outfit who has never been right.

 

[Nostra]

I cited my sources. Yours?

Why would he cite guesses, Simp?

 

[Nostra]

Again, dipshit, I cited my sources.

You can’t show where your source has ever been right.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, but again, the CR doesnt change anything. It keeps things as they are and buys them time to work on a deal.

I do agree that johnson needs to call the house back. They need to swear in Grijalva as she is the duly elected representative, and then pass the resolution to force the epstein files out. I agree with all of that.

But, were not doing anyone any favors with the government shut down. Schumer needs to just agree to the temporary CR and get people back to work.

You have the right to be wrong.

Johnson should not conduct any House business while the Senate refuses to fund the CR. The Dems are to blame.

 

[citygator]

Why would he cite guesses, Simp?

Nostradumbass, you argue everything but the topic.

Millions and millions of American citizens will lose their healthcare. I linked the study from CBO estimates. Where do you think the CBO got the “savings” to offset the wealthy tax cut? Why is the right saying this will cost money? Because they are saving from not helping cover healthcare of 13m people. It’s simple. Read the CBO report.

Estimated Budgetary Effects of Public Law 119-21, to Provide for Reconciliation Pursuant to Title II of H. Con. Res. 14, Relative to CBO’s January 2025 Baseline

Public Law 119-21 as enacted on July 4, 2025

www.cbo.gov

 

[leftwinger]

I can't get past this. UPCHUCK says he needs $1.5T to pay supplemental healthcare for Illegals and others?
$1.5e+12/13e+06 = 1.5/13 e+06 = 0.11538e+06 or ~ $115K per person. For two months? 1 year? 10 years.

That is $115,000 per person. ($115K)

IF for......
2mo: $115K/2 = $57.5K (can't be that one?)
1 yr: $115K/12 = 9.58K per person per mo for 1 year? ($800/mo., this seems like an entire premium, not supplement)
10yr: $9.58K/10 = $958 per person per year. $958/12 =$80/mo., This seems like a supplement.

So bottom line: UPCHUCK could be demanding 10yrs supplements paid in advance? For whom?
What makes these 13 million so special? Are they all disabled?

I am really out this time//
Why are "R" explaining what UPCHUCK is asking for? Maybe they did but I don't see the news?

 

[Nostra]

Nostradumbass, you argue everything but the topic.

Millions and millions of American citizens will lose their healthcare. I linked the study from CBO estimates. Where do you think the CBO got the “savings” to offset the wealthy tax cut? Why is the right saying this will cost money? Because they are saving from not helping cover healthcare of 13m people. It’s simple. Read the CBO report.

Estimated Budgetary Effects of Public Law 119-21, to Provide for Reconciliation Pursuant to Title II of H. Con. Res. 14, Relative to CBO’s January 2025 Baseline

Public Law 119-21 as enacted on July 4, 2025

www.cbo.gov

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Guesses by an outfit that has never been correct, Simp.

 

[hadit]

The 13M people who would lose healthcare includes exactly ZERO "illegals". About 10% of them are legal asylum seekers that you might want to complain about but ZERO are here illegally. 12M are US citizens. That is gutting healthcare fore the most struggling citizens.

Were we not told that obamadon'tcare was going great, that untold millions were getting health insurance that could not before, that families were saving thousands every year, that they kept their doctors, etc. etc., all BEFORE the Covid crisis subsidies were put in place (by democrats, who inserted a sunset clause on them. Were they being sadistic?)? If that is the case, why is it catastrophic to go back to the way it was?