A quick question about the shutdown.

[Edgetho]

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Further proof that liberals never offer compromise, but instead always demand acquiescence

They are NOT liberals, for ****'s sake. They are scum.

If you choose not to call them by what they are -- SCUM, then call them by something more accurate, like "Leftists"

But they GOD-DAMNED sure aren't 'liberals'

the left does this shit all the time. They change your language. Humans use language to form thought, to plan, to co-habitate, to farm, to work, to play, to THINK. We THINK in words.

Don't let the scum of the Earth control how you think. Because that IS what they're trying to do when when they call themselves 'liberals'. Scum of the Earth is more like it. If it makes your tummy hurt to call them waht they are,then call them Leftists. NOT liberals.

Doing that is an insult to sentient beings everywhere.

dimocraps are scum

period

 

[Edgetho]

Because what we have involves a lot of people's health insurance premiums skyrocketing. Johnson has sent the House home and refuses to allow them to do anything even though the Senate still meets. I am starting to think his name must be in the Epstein files the way he is doing anything he can to keep from seating the new member.

See, this is what happens when you let a perfectly good brain get taken over by dimocrap FILTH.

Johnson sent the House home because there's nothing for them to do. Simple. The House sent the Senate a CR and they rejected it. Johnson isn't going to send them another one until the Senate dimocrap SCUM pull their collective heads out of their asses and sends the CR back to them.

Simple. Now go clean your room

 

[ThisIsMe]

Because what we have involves a lot of people's health insurance premiums skyrocketing. Johnson has sent the House home and refuses to allow them to do anything even though the Senate still meets. I am starting to think his name must be in the Epstein files the way he is doing anything he can to keep from seating the new member.

Yes, but again, the CR doesnt change anything. It keeps things as they are and buys them time to work on a deal.

I do agree that johnson needs to call the house back. They need to swear in Grijalva as she is the duly elected representative, and then pass the resolution to force the epstein files out. I agree with all of that.

But, were not doing anyone any favors with the government shut down. Schumer needs to just agree to the temporary CR and get people back to work.

 

[citygator]

But they can still keep the government operating. A CLEAN CR is something they should all be able to agree on.

Then they should get the votes for it (they dont have) or address the issue in dispute - healthcare for 13M people.

 

[citygator]

Yes, but again, the CR doesnt change anything. It keeps things as they are and buys them time to work on a deal.

I do agree that johnson needs to call the house back. They need to swear in Grijalva as she is the duly elected representative, and then pass the resolution to force the epstein files out. I agree with all of that.

But, were not doing anyone any favors with the government shut down. Schumer needs to just agree to the temporary CR and get people back to work.

Keeping things "as is" would include no extension of Trump tax cuts for wealthy. Whoops. Will the GOP agree to that? Nope. They want everything and therefore need the votes for it.

 

[citygator]

Terrorists take hostages. When the terrorists don’t get their terms and conditions, they tell the hostages that the people trying to end the situation are “failing to negotiate” and that this situation is their fault.

How are Democrats acting any different than hostage taking terrorists? It is Democrats that are changing terms and conditions of the CR and demanding negotiations.

Because its legal and how the senate is set up. Hostages arent. If you dont like it move to another country.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Then they should get the votes for it (they dont have) or address the issue in dispute - healthcare for 13M people.

They could have the votes if dems would step up.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Keeping things "as is" would include no extension of Trump tax cuts for wealthy. Whoops. Will the GOP agree to that? Nope. They want everything and therefore need the votes for it.

The GOP offered a clean CR, and dems rejected it. It appears the GOP was trying to make a good faith effort to just keep things as they are for the time being.

Again, were not even talking about the final bill here, just the mechanism to keep the government open, for the time being

 

[Godboy]

A population of 13M people who will be able to keep their health insurance. Next question.

Republicans dont want that. What are you offering us in return for YOUR wishlist item?

 

[Nostra]

That shut you up quickly and everyone sees you dodging. Your posts are bereft of any value. Post #12. Read and respond or go jerk off, I dont care.

Post 12 has nothing but estimates and guesses, idiot,

Bring some actual facts and evidence.

GO!

 

[citygator]

They could have the votes if dems would step up.

That is the definition of NOT having the votes. Its a democracy.

 

[Nostra]

Again. Your posts are virtually meaningless. Trump's border wall was never funded. The budget ALWAYS has border funding and here is what each year had:

• 2017 and 2018: The Republican-controlled Congress provided hundreds of millions of dollars for replacement barriers and technology (not the $13B needed to build the wall)
• 2018: The House approved a bill with $5.7 billion for the wall, though it received no Democratic support and did not pass the Senate.
• 2019: After the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, Congress provided a meager $1.4 billion for pedestrian fencing.
• Executive actions and transfers: When Congress did not provide the full amount he requested, Trump declared a national emergency in 2019 to redirect billions of dollars from military construction projects to fund the wall.

What Is Happening with Trump’s Border Wall? Here’s Everything You Need to Know So Far

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You claimed Congress NEVER funded the wall. I proved you are a liar.

No amount of dodging will change that fact, liar.

 

[Nostra]

The additional subsidies are going away

Why did your Murder Cult set it up that way?

 

[Nostra]

There is no lie to what I stated. It is 100% fact. It only takes a simple majority to suspend the rules and hold the vote to pass it by the same simple majority. Thune and the GOP just don't have the balls. They are transgendered now. Very trendy. Nobody cares about the "We are gonna fire everybody if you don't give us what we want" bullshit. Might as well stand on their hands until they pass out.

Schumer Shutdown.

No amount of lies by you will change reality, Simp.

 

[whitehall]

So-called "subsidies" include health care for criminals who are illegally in the U.S. Why can't democrats admit it and how long do they think TDS will help them avoid the truth?

 

[Nostra]

Because the GOP refused to work on it in the 7 months since the last time. I don't expect anything. I proposed a path forward that should be acceptable to both sides if they were actually reasonable. I don't care if the shutdown lasts until the midterms. By refusing to negotiate, the GOP has to go nuclear or keep the government closed. 100% their choice.

Lies.

 

[citygator]

The GOP offered a clean CR, and dems rejected it. It appears the GOP was trying to make a good faith effort to just keep things as they are for the time being.

Again, were not even talking about the final bill here, just the mechanism to keep the government open, for the time being

Trump couldnt repeal the ACA or get the wall funding with a larger majority than he has now. He's not going to get the votes to gut healthcare with a smaller majority in my opinion. Wishing he has all the power doesnt make it so.

Biden marshalled the GOP by working with them on budgets and bills for months without calling them the enemy of democracy. He got the most consequential legislation passed in decades. Trump had zero legislative wins in 1.0. He'll get zero in 2.0. Everything he is doing will be undone. Biden and Obama's legacy legislation lives on and on.

 

[Nostra]

Because what we have involves a lot of people's health insurance premiums skyrocketing. Johnson has sent the House home and refuses to allow them to do anything even though the Senate still meets. I am starting to think his name must be in the Epstein files the way he is doing anything he can to keep from seating the new member.

So you agree Obamacare sucks sweaty donkey ball.

Are you still trying to blame Johnson? The guy who passed funding for the Government?

You really are a complete idiot.

 

[Nostra]

That is the definition of NOT having the votes. Its a democracy.

Glad you admit Dimtards shut down the government.

 

[Nostra]

Then they should get the votes for it (they dont have) or address the issue in dispute - healthcare for 13M people.

CRs are for funding things already approved, not trillions in new spending, Dumbass.