A quick question about the shutdown.

[Dekster]

That is false. Basically, you are admitting that the democrats have no role and no purpose for being in Congress. Is that really what you meant to say?

Thune could open the government today without a single democratic vote. He chooses not to. This is 100% a GOP shutdown.

 

[hadit]

Thune could open the government today without a single democratic vote. He chooses not to. This is 100% a GOP shutdown.

He would have to go nuclear, which is not something to undertake lightly, as the democrats found out when they went nuclear and the Republicans used that open door to place justices on the SC. Democrats don't think long term.

This remains the Schumer Shutdown.

 

[Nostra]

Thune could open the government today without a single democratic vote. He chooses not to. This is 100% a GOP shutdown.

Read your post again to see just how stupid you are.

 

[hadit]

Read your post again to see just how stupid you are.

It's like saying the US and Russia could stop all wars around the world because they have enough nuclear bombs to incinerate the planet.

 

[citygator]

Prove your 13 million number.

I say you are a liar.

PROVE ME WRONG! citygator

Post #12 you dipshit. You cant read anyway so why bother?

 

[Nostra]

Post #12 you dipshit. You cant read anyway so why bother?

You provided a bunch of “estimates”, stupid.

Guessing isn’t proof.

Next?

 

[citygator]

Like Biden refusing to build the border wall after spending was approved by Congress?

You idiot. You can lie to yourself, but not to me. Congress never approved the border wall. The money was siphoned from the military budget illegally.

 

[Hafar1014]

Democrats will not pass the CR to re-open the government because the GOP will not agree to their demand to spend $1.5T(that we do not have) on health insurance subsidies.

What have the Democrats offered to the GOP in exchange for spending that $1.5T (that we do not have)?

Be sure to cite/copy/paste the reference for your response.

democrats want illegals to get free benefits

 

[citygator]

Shouldn’t democrats pay for healthcare of the Illegals?

We already bare the burden of taxes in this country. Blues states pay more than they receive and pay more per person by far than red states. Red States are the takers. I am all for cutting off aid to red states that take more than they give. You with me?

 

[Nostra]

You idiot. You can lie to yourself, but not to me. Congress never approved the border wall. The money was siphoned from the military budget illegally.

Did you really think you would get away with that lie, moron?

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[Dekster]

He would have to go nuclear, which is not something to undertake lightly, as the democrats found out when they went nuclear and the Republicans used that open door to place justices on the SC. Democrats don't think long term.

This remains the Schumer Shutdown.

Nope until Thune goes nuclear it is a GOP shutdown. He has the only card that ends it and refuses to play it. Just because there would be consequences for doing so does not mean he can't do so. The democrats are playing the long game. The GOP is just too dumb to see it.

 

[leftwinger]

It appears that the (R) refuse to deal.

Art of the Deal.....right.

Bring a compromise, ******* Congress......Each and every one of them.

I'm truly not interested in who is to blame.......both sides are equally disgusting.

Enough waste fraud abuse theft debt. No compromise on a clean 2-month CR at Obiden levels.//

Maybe some comprimise on next budget. But you are down 65-35 in support. Why should us 65% even acknowledge your criminal existence? Keel DEM all. I don't give a rats rear end.

 

[citygator]

You provided a bunch of “estimates”, stupid.

Guessing isn’t proof.

Next?

That shut you up quickly and everyone sees you dodging. Your posts are bereft of any value. Post #12. Read and respond or go jerk off, I dont care.

 

[LeftofLeft]

60 Votes needed.

It's the (R) that need to deal....... why won't they?

This shutdown is 100% on the (R) party.
And you know it.

Make a Deal

Terrorists take hostages. When the terrorists don’t get their terms and conditions, they tell the hostages that the people trying to end the situation are “failing to negotiate” and that this situation is their fault.

How are Democrats acting any different than hostage taking terrorists? It is Democrats that are changing terms and conditions of the CR and demanding negotiations.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The subsidies were temporary, the democrats know that, they wrote the law.

Premiums are just going back to normal, why the uproar over normal premiums?

Its not like Trump or Republicans had anything to do with it.

Trump's tax cuts, which dispropotionally benefited the wealthy, were temporary.

Why make them permenant instead of allowing them to expire as the GOP originally wrote the law.

WW

 

[M14 Shooter]

Thune could open the government today without a single democratic vote. He chooses not to. This is 100% a GOP shutdown.

It does not matter how many times you repeat your lie, a lie it remains.

 

[Lisa558]

I am not holding the country hostage. The GOP can open it up tomorrow. Why haven't they? Seems to me they now know the democrats are correct, and the elephants are going to lose both chambers next year if the go nuclear and lock in those Big Beautiful Bill healthcare cuts. They just haven't figured out a way to save face yet. Oh well. People losing insurance completely or being forced to pay hundreds of dollars a month more in premiums can burn their MAGA signs to keep warm this winter I suppose. The democrats gain nothing but blame if they help lock in those rates. I mean they are stupid but even they aren't that stupid.

You should tell Thune to go ahead and shoot the hostage. It'll be fun to watch.

All they’re doing is going back to the Obamacare premiums pre-COVID. The hike in subsidies was supposed to be temporary.

Are you now admitting that Obamacare is such a disaster that we need massive government rescues to save it?

Let’s go back to free clinics and cheap catastrophic insurance plans.

 

[leftwinger]

Ok. But lets do that before throwing 13M people off of it. I am not married to any plan, just the concept that healthcare should be attainable for citizens of the wealthiest country on earth. Still waiting for trumps better cheaper option.

Lol. Schumer crowing about putting back in $1.5T on a clean CR for only 13 million illegals or real people? Sounds like BS. No one buys it. No support.

Huh? Discuss that in 2 mo when this runs out.

 

[leftwinger]

Well, the first thing that needs to happen is for them to sign the CR, get the government open and that will give them a few weeks to get to work on the final bill.

They won't until after NO-KING protest day. He is married to the far left Marxist.

 

[citygator]

Did you really think you would get away with that lie, moron?

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Again. Your posts are virtually meaningless. Trump's border wall was never funded. The budget ALWAYS has border funding and here is what each year had:

• 2017 and 2018: The Republican-controlled Congress provided hundreds of millions of dollars for replacement barriers and technology (not the $13B needed to build the wall)
• 2018: The House approved a bill with $5.7 billion for the wall, though it received no Democratic support and did not pass the Senate.
• 2019: After the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, Congress provided a meager $1.4 billion for pedestrian fencing.
• Executive actions and transfers: When Congress did not provide the full amount he requested, Trump declared a national emergency in 2019 to redirect billions of dollars from military construction projects to fund the wall.

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