A quick question about the shutdown.

[Nostra]

I am not holding the nation hostage. The GOP and its leader with the really big hands are charged with keeping the government functioning. They are failing miserably and will pay the price.

You have no clue how the Senate works, do ya?

But then, you are trying to blame the guy running the House after he passed a bill to fund the Government.

 

[BackAgain]

I am not holding the nation hostage. The GOP and its leader with the really big hands are charged with keeping the government functioning. They are failing miserably and will pay the price.

You aren’t? Unless you’re Schumer, you dolt, nobody says that you are.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I am not holding the nation hostage.

The Democrats are.
Remember?
It is their claim the government shutdown is harming Americans en masse, and as they think they have the stronger hand, they wont vote to open it back up until they get what they want.
This is a prime example of holding someone hostage - holding and/or harming someone until a condition they set is met.

That's who I mean by "you"

There;'s no reason to reward you for holding the country hostage.

 

[BackAgain]

Democrats will not pass the CR to re-open the government because the GOP will not agree to their demand to spend $1.5T(that we do not have) on health insurance subsidies.

What have the Democrats offered to the GOP in exchange for spending that $1.5T (that we do not have)?

Be sure to cite/copy/paste the reference for your response.

They have offered that they will end the alleged “shutdown” if and when (but only if and when) the GOP completely caves-in to Schumer’s out of the blue extortion demands.

**** no :: **** that.

 

[BULLDOG]

^^^
Further proof that liberals never offer compromise, but instead always demand acquiescence

A cult member whining about compromise? I'm marking this on the calendar.

 

[BULLDOG]

The Democrats are.
Remember?
It is their claim the government shutdown is harming Americans en masse, and as they think they have the stronger hand, they wont vote to open it back up until they get what they want.
This is a prime example of holding someone hostage - holding and/or harming someone until a condition they set is met.

That's who I mean by "you"

There;'s no reason to reward you for holding the country hostage.

Cry harder.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Democrats will not pass the CR to re-open the government because the GOP will not agree to their demand to spend $1.5T(that we do not have) on health insurance subsidies.

What have the Democrats offered to the GOP in exchange for spending that $1.5T (that we do not have)?

Be sure to cite/copy/paste the reference for your response.

Our offer is this - nothing

 

[Lisa558]

I guess they are really just pissing and moaning over the high premiums of Barrycare.



We warned ya, dipshits.

Shows Obamacare was never really workable without HUGE government assistance to the majority of Americans.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A population of 13M people who will be able to keep their health insurance. Next question.

Shouldn’t democrats pay for healthcare of the Illegals?

 

[Dekster]

The Democrats are.
Remember?
It is their claim the government shutdown is harming Americans en masse, and as they think they have the stronger hand, they wont vote to open it back up until they get what they want.
This is a prime example of holding someone hostage - holding and/or harming someone until a condition they set is met.

That's who I mean by "you"

There;'s no reason to reward you for holding the country hostage.

I am not holding the country hostage. The GOP can open it up tomorrow. Why haven't they? Seems to me they now know the democrats are correct, and the elephants are going to lose both chambers next year if the go nuclear and lock in those Big Beautiful Bill healthcare cuts. They just haven't figured out a way to save face yet. Oh well. People losing insurance completely or being forced to pay hundreds of dollars a month more in premiums can burn their MAGA signs to keep warm this winter I suppose. The democrats gain nothing but blame if they help lock in those rates. I mean they are stupid but even they aren't that stupid.

You should tell Thune to go ahead and shoot the hostage. It'll be fun to watch.

 

[Crepitus]

Democrats will not pass the CR to re-open the government because the GOP will not agree to their demand to spend $1.5T(that we do not have) on health insurance subsidies.

What have the Democrats offered to the GOP in exchange for spending that $1.5T (that we do not have)?

Be sure to cite/copy/paste the reference for your response.

They have offered to sign the stupid CR.

What else do you want?

 

[M14 Shooter]

They have offered that they will end the alleged “shutdown” if and when (but only if and when) the GOP completely caves-in to Schumer’s out of the blue extortion demands.

Correct.
They are holding the country hostage to get what they want.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I am not holding the country hostage.

The Democrats are, as proven.
There's no reason to give you anything, especially when you offer nothing in return.

 

[Dekster]

The Democrats are, as proven.
There's no reason to give you anything, especially when you offer nothing in return.

I am not asking for anything. Thune is a coward and Trump has no control. They are spineless when it comes down to the wire. Kings Hakeem and Schumer have pwned them.

 

[hadit]

They have offered to open the government back up, duh.

And all it costs is 12 easy payments of $100 billion each.

 

[SweetTea]

Dude it's well published - I used CBO numbers below where I could. Why do think reversing the cuts means adding back to the budget? Because people were getting something. So yes. Millions will lose their healthcare.

• Work requirements: "CBO estimates that 5.3 million people will lose Medicaid coverage due to new work or "community engagement" requirements, which take effect starting January 1, 2027." Many people, even those working will lose their coverage due to the onerous reporting requirements weeding them out. States that have this saw huge reductions in covered citizens. Fulltime home caregivers will lose their health coverage - mostly low income without the ability to pay for their parents/children care.
• Provider tax restrictions: An estimated 1.2 million people will lose Medicaid coverage due to new limits on states' ability to use taxes on health care providers to fund their Medicaid programs.
• Other provisions: Other changes, such as more frequent eligibility redeterminations and making it harder for dually eligible Medicare/Medicaid beneficiaries to retain Medicaid, are expected to cause further coverage losses around 1 million.

ACA premium tax credits
The OBBB did not extend the enhanced premium tax credits for ACA marketplace plans, which are set to expire at the end of 2025.

• Higher premiums: Without these enhancements, premiums are expected to rise significantly in 2026. KFF estimates that for subsidized enrollees, annual premium payments could more than double, increasing by 114% on average.
• Fewer insured people: Experts anticipate that millions of Americans will drop their marketplace coverage because they will no longer be able to afford it. The CBO estimates that 4.2 million people will become uninsured as a result of the cost increases to them.

Other factors affecting insurance coverage
Additional factors are expected to reduce insurance coverage, exacerbating the effects of the OBBB:

• Expiration of ACA rules: New CBO estimates from September 2025 predict that nullifying specific ACA marketplace rules, including automatic re-enrollment, will cause 900,000 additional people to lose health insurance.
• Higher costs for everyone: Insurers are citing increasing health care costs and the expiration of enhanced premium tax credits as key drivers for substantial rate hikes in 2026, which will affect even those not covered by subsidies. The median proposed premium increase for 2026 is 18% nationally.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/by-the-numbers-harmful-republican-megabill-will-take-health-coverage-away-from#:~:text=Roughly 15 million people will,not available at this time.)

COVID is over. They were paying before COVID, why can’t they pay now?

I can’t believe so many people fall for the kind of crap that the Democratic Party spews.

 

[Rambunctious]

If we don't remove people from Medicaid who don't qualify for it the entire system will fail... throwing more money at it won't fix it...

 

[candycorn]

It appears that the (R) refuse to deal.

Art of the Deal.....right.

Bring a compromise, ******* Congress......Each and every one of them.

I'm truly not interested in who is to blame.......both sides are equally disgusting.

Its Trump's shutdown. And the GOP is getting blamed. As they should.

 

[M14 Shooter]

COVID is over. They were paying before COVID, why can’t they pay now?

I can’t believe so many people fall for the kind of crap that the Democratic Party spews.

Democrats know they can prey upon the emotions of the ignorant, and do not at all mind lying to do it.

 

[hadit]

I am not holding the nation hostage. The GOP and its leader with the really big hands are charged with keeping the government functioning. They are failing miserably and will pay the price.

That is false. Basically, you are admitting that the democrats have no role and no purpose for being in Congress. Is that really what you meant to say?