A Question To Conservatives Who Believe In A Ban On Abortions

[Coyote]

This is one of the realities of abortion laws that people ignore. The slogan should be,
"right to birth" not "right to life" because in too many cases the kid can't be properly cared for.

And all the programs designed to help, whether it is sexual education, free contraceptives, post natal care, paid family leave, childcare, CHIP, healthcare, programs to help keep her in school, welfare if she lost her job because of pregnancy or inability to afford childcare….well…that’s “socialism”…can’t have that.

 

[Coyote]

As you know, we have the greatest health care in world. It is also available to all.

Not exactly true. Available to those who can pay. Big difference.

And somewhere in there…we are a country with a rising maternal mortality rate, decreasing life expectacy, obesity etc. yet implementing programs to help counter this is “socialism”.

Who is going to foot the bill for your giveaways?

We all will. Just like we have to foot the bill for the military and the prison industry. And to send kids to religious schools. But God help us if we have to foot the bill to lower teen pregnancy rates!

Why are you opposed to personal responsibility?

If you support personal responsibility but do not programs that help with that, then let a woman take responsibility for her choices and have the government butt out of her uterus.

You want to guns up too? Are you aware that many of the countries you admire have far rates of violent crime? You and your comrades are demanding that police be refunded at the same time you want our guns. All while murder rates are skyrocketing in major cities, all run by Democrats and looting has reached epic proportions.

Your brainstorms have crashed and burned and you demand we throw more gas on the fire.

WHY?

Guns. What a joke. We do not support your right to end a pregnancy but we demand and our right to kill.

 

[Coyote]

As Dr. Phil often says, "NEVER EVER REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR".

WHAT about that is difficult for anyone to understand?

We regularly reward bad behavior by electing them to office.

Beyond that, your idea of “not rewarding bad behavior” usually amounts to punishing the innocent child whether it is illegal immigration or forcing a mother who is ill prepared or too young to bear it with no support.

 

[Markle]

We regularly reward bad behavior by electing them to office.

Beyond that, your idea of “not rewarding bad behavior” usually amounts to punishing the innocent child whether it is illegal immigration or forcing a mother who is ill prepared or too young to bear it with no support.

You're right about rewarding bad behavior by reelecting them to office.

I'm sorry to see that you support personal responsibility just so it isn't inconvenient. Got it!

Birth control, or that failing that, adoption.

 

[Meriweather]

The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) reports that the U.S. is the only developed country in the world that does not have a national law on paid maternity leave.

Apparently the BBC is not conversant with the US Constitution. Any right/power not directly given to the federal government is reserved to the States. As the Constitution doesn't mention the "right" to maternity leave, it is properly left to each State to address this issue.

 

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Apparently the BBC is not conversant with the US Constitution. Any right/power not directly given to the federal government is reserved to the States. As the Constitution doesn't mention the "right" to maternity leave, it is properly left to each State to address this issue.

They routinely get around that.

 

[Meriweather]

You would be one of the few who supports that.
Republicans whined when people were getting paid to stay home, women couldn't get child care.
Republicans don't want to pay for maternity leave either.

I am hard-hearted about this myself. Why should the State/my employer have to take care of me when I am having a baby? Does the State pay the non-working mother a stipend for "maternity leave"? Why does Government talk so many into the horrible idea they cannot take care of themselves, let alone a family? It is bad enough with "free lunch/breakfast" programs Government pushes the idea on children that their parents can't even take care of them; it is so much worse when Government then pushes the idea on adults they cannot take care of themselves.

Shame on all of us. Our ancestors gave their lives that we might be free/independent--not dependent.

If the Government thinks we need Government money to make it through, that is a pretty good indication we are being taxed too much. What would we think of a thief that took our money and then expected gratitude when they returned part of it? There is a better way.

 

[Meriweather]

They routinely get around that.

When they should not.

 

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That will be up to each state to decide when SCOTUS overturns Roe v Wade.

 

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When they should not.

I don't disagree.

 

[Meriweather]

Beyond that, your idea of “not rewarding bad behavior” usually amounts to punishing the innocent child whether it is illegal immigration or forcing a mother who is ill prepared or too young to bear it with no support.

Too bad. Learn to take responsibility--something that will not be learned if someone else takes the opportunity from another.

 

[Smokin' OP]

As you know, we have the greatest health care in world.

Sure it is, the outcomes prove it, so do the lawsuits.

It is also available to all.

Yeah it is, so is the bill, even with insurance, they will to nail you with co-pays.

Who is going to foot the bill for your giveaways?

The same people who have been paying for corporate giveaways.

Why are you opposed to personal responsibility?

Sure, like republicans refusing to raise the debt ceiling, paying the debt they created?
Then there is Trump passing the buck on distribution of covid vaccines to the states.

You want to guns up too?

No.

Are you aware that many of the countries you admire have far rates of violent crime?

Some do, some don't.

You and your comrades are demanding that police be refunded at the same time you want our guns.

Just the stupid ones, learn to shoot.
No one needs 30 rounds to wound a turtle.

All while murder rates are skyrocketing in major cities, all run by Democrats and looting has reached epic proportions.

I know, what we need are more guns, more good guys with guns, rarely are they seen.

Your brainstorms have crashed and burned and you demand we throw more gas on the fire.

Sure with more guns, let people starve, then wonder why there is so much crime?

WHY?

 

[Flash]

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The opposition to abortion is because of abortion on demand for the sake of convenience, which is 96%. The four percent is for rape, incest and valid medical reasons.

If the debate on abortion was over the 4% there probably would not be much of a disagreement. The filthy Left tying to frame the discussion away from the real problem is just another example of their dishonesty.

The 96% is for the shitheads to use the killing of a child for a method of birth control and that is despicable.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The only authority I claim is the same authority YOU claim, the right to control your own body.

If this had anything to do with “the right to control your own body”, then it would be the woman who died when she had an abortion, and not her innocent child.

What you mean by “the right to control your own body” is the “right” to murder someone else in cold blood.

 

[Wuwei]

THEN DON'T GET FUCKING PREGNANT. Wear a dang rubber.

It's up to the guy to do that. And it's up to the woman to plead with him to do that and not be abusive if she refuses him. Obviously you haven't lived in poverty.

 

[bodecea]

so your solution instead of helping a battered child is to kill it,,,

youre one sick mother fucker,,

When will you, in your pro-life stance, FORCE people to get tested for transplant compatability and FORCE those compatable to donate kidneys, marrow, and skin to keep others ALIVE? Or even FORCE the families of those brain dead in hospitals to donate organs to keep others alive? In your world right now, dead people have more body autonomy rights than pregnant women.

 

[progressive hunter]

When will you, in your pro-life stance, FORCE people to get tested for transplant compatability and FORCE those compatable to donate kidneys, marrow, and skin to keep others ALIVE? Or even FORCE the families of those brain dead in hospitals to donate organs to keep others alive? In your world right now, dead people have more body autonomy rights than pregnant women.

off topic,,

 

[Wuwei]

off topic,,

It's an on topic analogy.

 

[progressive hunter]

It's an on topic analogy.

not really,, at best its a strawman,,,

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Yet you, when asked to wear a mask, for a temporary period of time, during a pandemic, scream about freedoms and rights.

Of course, there's a huge difference, which makes your remark entirely irrelevant and meaningless.

Abortion, by intent and effect, kills an innocent human being.

Wearing a mask does nothing at all, other than to impose unnecessary inconvenience, discomfort, and cost on people, for no benefit whatsoever other than a false sense of safety.

Even for you, it's just plain absurd to try to tie the two matters together in the manner that you have.