A message from a Mexican to The USA

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A permanent resident is a citizen
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Permanent resident status (you know, the "green card") is NOT the same as citizenship. You are mistaken.
You get a green card because you want to be a citizen. ...
Not necessarily.

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
Don't try to move your own goal post now. It's far too late for that. YOU claimed that permanent residency was the SAME as citizenship. That is not correct. Why is it so hard for you to simply admit you were wrong?

Have YOU ever admitted YOU were wrong? Ever? You like to pretend that you are a beaming paragon of human virtue, but you are fallible just like every swinging dick on the face of this earth. Here's the deal unk, I spent many years studying and working in this field because, as a militia leader, the members were always telling me they didn't care whether or not someone were foreigners as long as they were "legal," so I did something proactive and began working with a Latino organization to get people their papers. I figured if we did something proactive, the public would be more receptive to the idea that civilian militias were defending Liberty. Was I wrong! You want an admission of wrong?

Studying immigration and learning it has been nothing but a fucking curse. I see the erroneous thinking in the proposed solutions of the MAGA crowd. I've never denied that an issue exists. It's that the proposed solutions will not address the real problem AND they end up denying to each of us our unalienable Rights. That's not opinion; that is a fact. As one proof that I KNOW what I'm talking about, I accurately predicted YEARS ago that the United States Supreme Court would not deport DACA kids. Do you think I have a critic, including you, that would acknowledge that?

The reality is, you like to be an asshole on the Internet because you lack the balls to say the shit you do to people face to face. But, you're a rank fucking amateur. Wait until you have a constant shadow like I have. Here's a piece of shit that (if he did not do the deeds, caused them to happen) killed my cat and strung it over a tree branch, shot through my kitchen window one time while I was at home and has tried himself doxxing me for YEARS now to try and silence me. Just in the past two months leading up to this week, that same mother fucker tried to steal money off my credit card which caused me to have to shut down my credit card and get another one at a different company. Then he tried to steal money off me via paypal. I was forced to shut down my bank account and get another bank after being at the same one for 28 years. Then he sent an e mail to the church I belong to saying that he had hacked the site and is going to shut it down and ruin my reputation unless the church pays him a sum of money in bitcoin. What is ironic is that guy is going to back you up and the cocksucker is just like you. He don't have the guts to stand up to me like a man. He hacks my computer on a regular basis and he's good.

One day his luck and yours will run out. Karma is a bitch. But was I wrong? I'd be better off NOT knowing this shit, but I do. I know immigration law good enough that lawyers farm their work out to me rather than screw with it. But, I paid the price only to learn that the issue is not about immigration. The problem is non-whites want to take over and ARE taking over. The white people simply lack the balls to stand up for themselves for fear of being labeled a racist. Whether they are or not is immaterial. I have my own personal views about race. At the same time I've worked with and for non-whites. They have been satisfied with my work and we've had long standing relationships. Still I know the difference between citizenship and the concept of unalienable Rights - Rights that are above the reach of government that protect all of us. If I could go back and unlearn what I know so that I could blindly worship the orange man whose narcissism, socialist solutions, and stupid rhetoric have destroyed the constitutionalists, I'd damn well be tempted. I regret having studied and worked in immigration law. I was wrong and I pay a hefty price for it. But, I rest assured knowing that people like you and that other cancer on the face of humanity will have something very bad befall you. One day, you will lie in bed and pray to God for the evil you've visited on others. So will that other POS. So, yeah, I've been wrong. But, you fuck with people because their misery gives you pleasure... just like my shadow does. But, both of you are sick fucks and you're wrong. So, now you can quit trying to pretend you wear a halo.

Porter Rockwell

I'm a former Green Card holder who became a proud American citizen. It wasn't necessarily my intention to become an American citizen when I got my Green Card, but I became one as soon as I could.

Permanent residency is not the same as citizenship. Permanent residents don't get to vote, can't sit on juries, and can get kicked out of the country, of which the latter happened to someone I know. A Green Card is the closest thing to permanent residency in American law, though if you know American immigration law, you know that technically a Green Card isn't permanent residency since it has to be renewed every 10 years.

Not all Green Card holders want to become citizens. A former employee of mine (who unfortunately died) was a Belgian citizen and a Green Card holder from the 1970s and never became an American citizen. My best friend from high school is a Canadian and has told me he will never get his Green Card. Both of them were married to American citizens and have families here. There are many reasons why people don't want become citizens.
 
...

A permanent resident is a citizen
....
Permanent resident status (you know, the "green card") is NOT the same as citizenship. You are mistaken.
You get a green card because you want to be a citizen. ...
Not necessarily.

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
Don't try to move your own goal post now. It's far too late for that. YOU claimed that permanent residency was the SAME as citizenship. That is not correct. Why is it so hard for you to simply admit you were wrong?

Have YOU ever admitted YOU were wrong? Ever? You like to pretend that you are a beaming paragon of human virtue, but you are fallible just like every swinging dick on the face of this earth. Here's the deal unk, I spent many years studying and working in this field because, as a militia leader, the members were always telling me they didn't care whether or not someone were foreigners as long as they were "legal," so I did something proactive and began working with a Latino organization to get people their papers. I figured if we did something proactive, the public would be more receptive to the idea that civilian militias were defending Liberty. Was I wrong! You want an admission of wrong?

Studying immigration and learning it has been nothing but a fucking curse. I see the erroneous thinking in the proposed solutions of the MAGA crowd. I've never denied that an issue exists. It's that the proposed solutions will not address the real problem AND they end up denying to each of us our unalienable Rights. That's not opinion; that is a fact. As one proof that I KNOW what I'm talking about, I accurately predicted YEARS ago that the United States Supreme Court would not deport DACA kids. Do you think I have a critic, including you, that would acknowledge that?

The reality is, you like to be an asshole on the Internet because you lack the balls to say the shit you do to people face to face. But, you're a rank fucking amateur. Wait until you have a constant shadow like I have. Here's a piece of shit that (if he did not do the deeds, caused them to happen) killed my cat and strung it over a tree branch, shot through my kitchen window one time while I was at home and has tried himself doxxing me for YEARS now to try and silence me. Just in the past two months leading up to this week, that same mother fucker tried to steal money off my credit card which caused me to have to shut down my credit card and get another one at a different company. Then he tried to steal money off me via paypal. I was forced to shut down my bank account and get another bank after being at the same one for 28 years. Then he sent an e mail to the church I belong to saying that he had hacked the site and is going to shut it down and ruin my reputation unless the church pays him a sum of money in bitcoin. What is ironic is that guy is going to back you up and the cocksucker is just like you. He don't have the guts to stand up to me like a man. He hacks my computer on a regular basis and he's good.

One day his luck and yours will run out. Karma is a bitch. But was I wrong? I'd be better off NOT knowing this shit, but I do. I know immigration law good enough that lawyers farm their work out to me rather than screw with it. But, I paid the price only to learn that the issue is not about immigration. The problem is non-whites want to take over and ARE taking over. The white people simply lack the balls to stand up for themselves for fear of being labeled a racist. Whether they are or not is immaterial. I have my own personal views about race. At the same time I've worked with and for non-whites. They have been satisfied with my work and we've had long standing relationships. Still I know the difference between citizenship and the concept of unalienable Rights - Rights that are above the reach of government that protect all of us. If I could go back and unlearn what I know so that I could blindly worship the orange man whose narcissism, socialist solutions, and stupid rhetoric have destroyed the constitutionalists, I'd damn well be tempted. I regret having studied and worked in immigration law. I was wrong and I pay a hefty price for it. But, I rest assured knowing that people like you and that other cancer on the face of humanity will have something very bad befall you. One day, you will lie in bed and pray to God for the evil you've visited on others. So will that other POS. So, yeah, I've been wrong. But, you fuck with people because their misery gives you pleasure... just like my shadow does. But, both of you are sick fucks and you're wrong. So, now you can quit trying to pretend you wear a halo.

Porter Rockwell

I'm a former Green Card holder who became a proud American citizen. It wasn't necessarily my intention to become an American citizen when I got my Green Card, but I became one as soon as I could.

Permanent residency is not the same as citizenship. Permanent residents don't get to vote, can't sit on juries, and can get kicked out of the country, of which the latter happened to someone I know. A Green Card is the closest thing to permanent residency in American law, though if you know American immigration law, you know that technically a Green Card isn't permanent residency since it has to be renewed every 10 years.

Not all Green Card holders want to become citizens. A former employee of mine (who unfortunately died) was a Belgian citizen and a Green Card holder from the 1970s and never became an American citizen. My best friend from high school is a Canadian and has told me he will never get his Green Card. Both of them were married to American citizens and have families here. There are many reasons why people don't want become citizens.

Read this carefully:

I worked IN immigration law for six years. I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. You understand that, right? What you have is an ego driven troll misrepresenting me. You have to read ALL of what I wrote. Let me repeat the analogy for you:

"To give unkotare an analogy, there is road near me that goes between two major thoroughfares. Most people use that side road as a short-cut, so it's usually common to hear residents say "everybody uses that road as a shortcut." Technically, that isn't true. There are over 50 houses on that road. So is everybody that uses the language I said a liar? That's what unkotare wants to argue about. So, forgive me when I go back to telling that mindless idiot that he needs some new material." See post # 576

I said that people become permanent residents in order to be citizens. Many don't realize that is where the road leads, so I asked my accuser to tell us how many people holding a green card became citizens versus those who do not. He cannot give you the honest answer because most foreigners that become permanent residents end up just like you - a citizen. Not all green card holders want to become citizens, but eventually the majority do. I've handled paperwork for people that were here for 20 or more years. Here are some things that got people to become citizens:

* They adopt children
* Tax advantages
* To get certain jobs that are easier for citizens to get
* Change their mind as political conditions change in their home country
* If they become citizens, they can help family members emigrate here

The trolls are hiding the truth by making this thread unnecessarily long so they can misrepresent my position. It's as simple as that.
 
...

A permanent resident is a citizen
....
Permanent resident status (you know, the "green card") is NOT the same as citizenship. You are mistaken.
You get a green card because you want to be a citizen. ...
Not necessarily.

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
Don't try to move your own goal post now. It's far too late for that. YOU claimed that permanent residency was the SAME as citizenship. That is not correct. Why is it so hard for you to simply admit you were wrong?

Have YOU ever admitted YOU were wrong? Ever? You like to pretend that you are a beaming paragon of human virtue, but you are fallible just like every swinging dick on the face of this earth. Here's the deal unk, I spent many years studying and working in this field because, as a militia leader, the members were always telling me they didn't care whether or not someone were foreigners as long as they were "legal," so I did something proactive and began working with a Latino organization to get people their papers. I figured if we did something proactive, the public would be more receptive to the idea that civilian militias were defending Liberty. Was I wrong! You want an admission of wrong?

Studying immigration and learning it has been nothing but a fucking curse. I see the erroneous thinking in the proposed solutions of the MAGA crowd. I've never denied that an issue exists. It's that the proposed solutions will not address the real problem AND they end up denying to each of us our unalienable Rights. That's not opinion; that is a fact. As one proof that I KNOW what I'm talking about, I accurately predicted YEARS ago that the United States Supreme Court would not deport DACA kids. Do you think I have a critic, including you, that would acknowledge that?

The reality is, you like to be an asshole on the Internet because you lack the balls to say the shit you do to people face to face. But, you're a rank fucking amateur. Wait until you have a constant shadow like I have. Here's a piece of shit that (if he did not do the deeds, caused them to happen) killed my cat and strung it over a tree branch, shot through my kitchen window one time while I was at home and has tried himself doxxing me for YEARS now to try and silence me. Just in the past two months leading up to this week, that same mother fucker tried to steal money off my credit card which caused me to have to shut down my credit card and get another one at a different company. Then he tried to steal money off me via paypal. I was forced to shut down my bank account and get another bank after being at the same one for 28 years. Then he sent an e mail to the church I belong to saying that he had hacked the site and is going to shut it down and ruin my reputation unless the church pays him a sum of money in bitcoin. What is ironic is that guy is going to back you up and the cocksucker is just like you. He don't have the guts to stand up to me like a man. He hacks my computer on a regular basis and he's good.

One day his luck and yours will run out. Karma is a bitch. But was I wrong? I'd be better off NOT knowing this shit, but I do. I know immigration law good enough that lawyers farm their work out to me rather than screw with it. But, I paid the price only to learn that the issue is not about immigration. The problem is non-whites want to take over and ARE taking over. The white people simply lack the balls to stand up for themselves for fear of being labeled a racist. Whether they are or not is immaterial. I have my own personal views about race. At the same time I've worked with and for non-whites. They have been satisfied with my work and we've had long standing relationships. Still I know the difference between citizenship and the concept of unalienable Rights - Rights that are above the reach of government that protect all of us. If I could go back and unlearn what I know so that I could blindly worship the orange man whose narcissism, socialist solutions, and stupid rhetoric have destroyed the constitutionalists, I'd damn well be tempted. I regret having studied and worked in immigration law. I was wrong and I pay a hefty price for it. But, I rest assured knowing that people like you and that other cancer on the face of humanity will have something very bad befall you. One day, you will lie in bed and pray to God for the evil you've visited on others. So will that other POS. So, yeah, I've been wrong. But, you fuck with people because their misery gives you pleasure... just like my shadow does. But, both of you are sick fucks and you're wrong. So, now you can quit trying to pretend you wear a halo.

Porter Rockwell

I'm a former Green Card holder who became a proud American citizen. It wasn't necessarily my intention to become an American citizen when I got my Green Card, but I became one as soon as I could.

Permanent residency is not the same as citizenship. Permanent residents don't get to vote, can't sit on juries, and can get kicked out of the country, of which the latter happened to someone I know. A Green Card is the closest thing to permanent residency in American law, though if you know American immigration law, you know that technically a Green Card isn't permanent residency since it has to be renewed every 10 years.

Not all Green Card holders want to become citizens. A former employee of mine (who unfortunately died) was a Belgian citizen and a Green Card holder from the 1970s and never became an American citizen. My best friend from high school is a Canadian and has told me he will never get his Green Card. Both of them were married to American citizens and have families here. There are many reasons why people don't want become citizens.

Read this carefully:

I worked IN immigration law for six years. I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. You understand that, right? What you have is an ego driven troll misrepresenting me. You have to read ALL of what I wrote. Let me repeat the analogy for you:

"To give unkotare an analogy, there is road near me that goes between two major thoroughfares. Most people use that side road as a short-cut, so it's usually common to hear residents say "everybody uses that road as a shortcut." Technically, that isn't true. There are over 50 houses on that road. So is everybody that uses the language I said a liar? That's what unkotare wants to argue about. So, forgive me when I go back to telling that mindless idiot that he needs some new material." See post # 576

I said that people become permanent residents in order to be citizens. Many don't realize that is where the road leads, so I asked my accuser to tell us how many people holding a green card became citizens versus those who do not. He cannot give you the honest answer because most foreigners that become permanent residents end up just like you - a citizen. Not all green card holders want to become citizens, but eventually the majority do. I've handled paperwork for people that were here for 20 or more years. Here are some things that got people to become citizens:

* They adopt children
* Tax advantages
* To get certain jobs that are easier for citizens to get
* Change their mind as political conditions change in their home country
* If they become citizens, they can help family members emigrate here

The trolls are hiding the truth by making this thread unnecessarily long so they can misrepresent my position. It's as simple as that.

Look, when you say "a permanent resident is a citizen," that's easily misconstrued as "A Green Card holder is a citizen" because "permanent resident" and "Green Card holder" are often interchangeable and understood to be the same thing, even if technically the only permanent residents are citizens. Google "US permanent residency" and you'll see page after page about Green Cards.

You're arguing semantics.
 
Read this carefully:

I worked IN immigration law for six years.

No you haven't. You hold NO law license, NO immigration schooling, nothing. Funny how you call others liars yet lie yourself. SMFH

I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. You understand that, right? What you have is an ego driven troll misrepresenting me. You have to read ALL of what I wrote. Let me repeat the analogy for you:

"To give unkotare an analogy, there is road near me that goes between two major thoroughfares. Most people use that side road as a short-cut, so it's usually common to hear residents say "everybody uses that road as a shortcut." Technically, that isn't true. There are over 50 houses on that road. So is everybody that uses the language I said a liar? That's what unkotare wants to argue about. So, forgive me when I go back to telling that mindless idiot that he needs some new material." See post # 576
Unkotare pretty much already showed your exact words, again you call people names that you yourself are.

I said that people become permanent residents in order to be citizens. Many don't realize that is where the road leads, so I asked my accuser to tell us how many people holding a green card became citizens versus those who do not. He cannot give you the honest answer because most foreigners that become permanent residents end up just like you - a citizen. Not all green card holders want to become citizens, but eventually the majority do. I've handled paperwork for people that were here for 20 or more years. Here are some things that got people to become citizens:

* They adopt children
* Tax advantages
* To get certain jobs that are easier for citizens to get
* Change their mind as political conditions change in their home country
* If they become citizens, they can help family members emigrate here

The trolls are hiding the truth by making this thread unnecessarily long so they can misrepresent my position. It's as simple as that.
You haven't handled anybody's paperwork, legally. SMFH
 
...

A permanent resident is a citizen
....
Permanent resident status (you know, the "green card") is NOT the same as citizenship. You are mistaken.
You get a green card because you want to be a citizen. ...
Not necessarily.

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
Don't try to move your own goal post now. It's far too late for that. YOU claimed that permanent residency was the SAME as citizenship. That is not correct. Why is it so hard for you to simply admit you were wrong?

Have YOU ever admitted YOU were wrong? Ever? You like to pretend that you are a beaming paragon of human virtue, but you are fallible just like every swinging dick on the face of this earth. Here's the deal unk, I spent many years studying and working in this field because, as a militia leader, the members were always telling me they didn't care whether or not someone were foreigners as long as they were "legal," so I did something proactive and began working with a Latino organization to get people their papers. I figured if we did something proactive, the public would be more receptive to the idea that civilian militias were defending Liberty. Was I wrong! You want an admission of wrong?

Studying immigration and learning it has been nothing but a fucking curse. I see the erroneous thinking in the proposed solutions of the MAGA crowd. I've never denied that an issue exists. It's that the proposed solutions will not address the real problem AND they end up denying to each of us our unalienable Rights. That's not opinion; that is a fact. As one proof that I KNOW what I'm talking about, I accurately predicted YEARS ago that the United States Supreme Court would not deport DACA kids. Do you think I have a critic, including you, that would acknowledge that?

The reality is, you like to be an asshole on the Internet because you lack the balls to say the shit you do to people face to face. But, you're a rank fucking amateur. Wait until you have a constant shadow like I have. Here's a piece of shit that (if he did not do the deeds, caused them to happen) killed my cat and strung it over a tree branch, shot through my kitchen window one time while I was at home and has tried himself doxxing me for YEARS now to try and silence me. Just in the past two months leading up to this week, that same mother fucker tried to steal money off my credit card which caused me to have to shut down my credit card and get another one at a different company. Then he tried to steal money off me via paypal. I was forced to shut down my bank account and get another bank after being at the same one for 28 years. Then he sent an e mail to the church I belong to saying that he had hacked the site and is going to shut it down and ruin my reputation unless the church pays him a sum of money in bitcoin. What is ironic is that guy is going to back you up and the cocksucker is just like you. He don't have the guts to stand up to me like a man. He hacks my computer on a regular basis and he's good.

One day his luck and yours will run out. Karma is a bitch. But was I wrong? I'd be better off NOT knowing this shit, but I do. I know immigration law good enough that lawyers farm their work out to me rather than screw with it. But, I paid the price only to learn that the issue is not about immigration. The problem is non-whites want to take over and ARE taking over. The white people simply lack the balls to stand up for themselves for fear of being labeled a racist. Whether they are or not is immaterial. I have my own personal views about race. At the same time I've worked with and for non-whites. They have been satisfied with my work and we've had long standing relationships. Still I know the difference between citizenship and the concept of unalienable Rights - Rights that are above the reach of government that protect all of us. If I could go back and unlearn what I know so that I could blindly worship the orange man whose narcissism, socialist solutions, and stupid rhetoric have destroyed the constitutionalists, I'd damn well be tempted. I regret having studied and worked in immigration law. I was wrong and I pay a hefty price for it. But, I rest assured knowing that people like you and that other cancer on the face of humanity will have something very bad befall you. One day, you will lie in bed and pray to God for the evil you've visited on others. So will that other POS. So, yeah, I've been wrong. But, you fuck with people because their misery gives you pleasure... just like my shadow does. But, both of you are sick fucks and you're wrong. So, now you can quit trying to pretend you wear a halo.

Porter Rockwell

I'm a former Green Card holder who became a proud American citizen. It wasn't necessarily my intention to become an American citizen when I got my Green Card, but I became one as soon as I could.

Permanent residency is not the same as citizenship. Permanent residents don't get to vote, can't sit on juries, and can get kicked out of the country, of which the latter happened to someone I know. A Green Card is the closest thing to permanent residency in American law, though if you know American immigration law, you know that technically a Green Card isn't permanent residency since it has to be renewed every 10 years.

Not all Green Card holders want to become citizens. A former employee of mine (who unfortunately died) was a Belgian citizen and a Green Card holder from the 1970s and never became an American citizen. My best friend from high school is a Canadian and has told me he will never get his Green Card. Both of them were married to American citizens and have families here. There are many reasons why people don't want become citizens.

Read this carefully:

I worked IN immigration law for six years. I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. You understand that, right? What you have is an ego driven troll misrepresenting me. You have to read ALL of what I wrote. Let me repeat the analogy for you:

"To give unkotare an analogy, there is road near me that goes between two major thoroughfares. Most people use that side road as a short-cut, so it's usually common to hear residents say "everybody uses that road as a shortcut." Technically, that isn't true. There are over 50 houses on that road. So is everybody that uses the language I said a liar? That's what unkotare wants to argue about. So, forgive me when I go back to telling that mindless idiot that he needs some new material." See post # 576

I said that people become permanent residents in order to be citizens. Many don't realize that is where the road leads, so I asked my accuser to tell us how many people holding a green card became citizens versus those who do not. He cannot give you the honest answer because most foreigners that become permanent residents end up just like you - a citizen. Not all green card holders want to become citizens, but eventually the majority do. I've handled paperwork for people that were here for 20 or more years. Here are some things that got people to become citizens:

* They adopt children
* Tax advantages
* To get certain jobs that are easier for citizens to get
* Change their mind as political conditions change in their home country
* If they become citizens, they can help family members emigrate here

The trolls are hiding the truth by making this thread unnecessarily long so they can misrepresent my position. It's as simple as that.

Look, when you say "a permanent resident is a citizen," that's easily misconstrued as "A Green Card holder is a citizen" because "permanent resident" and "Green Card holder" are often interchangeable and understood to be the same thing, even if technically the only permanent residents are citizens. Google "US permanent residency" and you'll see page after page about Green Cards.

You're arguing semantics.

No, I was not arguing semantics. Uncle shit did that.
 
... I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. ...
*ahem*

'memba this?

...1) Immigration = citizenship...


Point? Remember this?

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
No,no,no militia boy. YOU made a claim. Support it or admit that you were wrong. Simple as that.
 
... I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. ...
*ahem*

'memba this?

...1) Immigration = citizenship...


Point? Remember this?

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
No,no,no militia boy. YOU made a claim. Support it or admit that you were wrong. Simple as that.

Fuck you faggot. I'm not your boy. Maybe that cocksucker you had to bring in to help you might be your boy, but bet your ass I NEVER will be. You don't give me orders. Just give blow jobs and stay out of the way.
 
... I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. ...
*ahem*

'memba this?

...1) Immigration = citizenship...


Point? Remember this?

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
No,no,no militia boy. YOU made a claim. Support it or admit that you were wrong. Simple as that.
.
 
... I did not say that permanent residency is citizenship. ...
*ahem*

'memba this?

...1) Immigration = citizenship...


Point? Remember this?

Post what percentage of people get a green card and do not become citizens versus those who do. Please give links to your sources.
No,no,no militia boy. YOU made a claim. Support it or admit that you were wrong. Simple as that.
.

You need some new material.
 

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