Zone1 A masterful presentation of what the Book of Mormon actually is...

Your words say otherwise.
How? I can disagree, and do, and yet remain very good friends with many LDS.

You are creating boundaries that don't exist. Go Mormon all you want. Great! But don't expect not to be called out when necessary.
 
I just exposed you as the real fraud. You denounce something you know nothing about. You reject real scientific proof too. At the same time as stating science is your god and then rejecting that too. You have no credibility. Of course you reject God. You so stated this. You just made yourself out to look like a fool.
Every word in that was a lie. I never said science was my God. You have no idea what you are talking about. I never said i reject God either.

You battle strawmen of your own imagination.

Bored now.
 
Every word in that was a lie. I never said science was my God. You have no idea what you are talking about. I never said i reject God either.

You battle strawmen of your own imagination.

Bored now.
Eman623, our LDS friends has an entirely different universe in his head than the one the rest of us inhabit.
 
Every word in that was a lie. I never said science was my God. You have no idea what you are talking about. I never said i reject God either.

You battle strawmen of your own imagination.

Bored now.
You are your own god. Thats what you originally said. I never lie.
 
This is why I can't go along with any religion. My relationship with God doesn't depend on a book or a church or an invitation or anything. It exists all on its own.
On what basis
 
Because I know the GAs don't want a poke like you preaching false gospel.
How would you know if I am or not? Fortunately, I know the difference between doctrine and opinion. Apparently, you don't.
 
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I have had bishop friends who have told me of the creeps like you who think you are the Lord's mouthpiece.
 
I've heard and tried myself to explain the Book of Mormon and all its purposes for being. But, this young man puts it as clearly and precise as I've every heard it in my 49 years of membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Try to listen with a non-Confirmational Bias and you too will know a lot more than you thought about the Book of Mormon too. And, even Joseph Smith as well.



I have to admit that I did like the Book of Mormon but I could not believe that Prophet Joseph Smith is the final Elijah? It seemed to me that there is just too much yet to happen for Prophet Joseph Smith to have fulfilled all the predictions about what the final Elijah must accomplish.

The Book of Mormon does seem to have some pretty amazing insights on many topics though.

Here is a question for all Latter day Saints here, what do you think of the ancient Book of Adam and Eve?


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Good question... I suspect that he would but I am not sure.

Another relevant question would be would Adam have a noticeable scar on his right side from an event spoken about in the rather ancient, Book of Adam and Eve?

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Chapter LIX - Eighth apparition of Satan of Satan to Adam and Eve.

1 But Satan, the hater of all good, did not allow them to finish their prayers. For he called to his hosts, and they came, all of them. Then he said to them, "Since Adam and Eve, whom we deceived, have agreed together to pray to God night and day, and to beg Him to deliver them, and since they will not come out of the cave until the end of the fortieth day. 2 And since they will continue their prayers as they have both agreed to do, that He will deliver them out of our hands, and restore them to their former state, see what we shall do to them." And his hosts said to him, "Power is thine, O our lord, to do what you list." 3 Then Satan, great in wickedness, took his hosts and came into the cave, in the thirtieth night of the forty days and one; and he beat Adam and Eve, until he left them dead. 4 Then came the Word of God to Adam and Eve, who raised them from their suffering, and God said to Adam, "Be strong, and be not afraid of him who has just come to you." 5 But Adam cried and said, "Where were you, O my God, that they should punish me with such blows, and that this suffering should come over us; over me and over Eve, Your handmaiden?" 6 Then God said to him, "O Adam, see, he is lord and master of all you have, he who said, he would give you divinity. Where is this love for you? And where is the gift he promised? 7 Did it please him just once, O Adam, to come to you, comfort you, strengthen you, rejoice with you, or send his hosts to protect you; because you have obeyed him, and have yielded to his counsel; and have followed his commandment and transgressed Mine?" 8 Then Adam cried before the Lord, and said, "O Lord because I transgressed a little, You have severely punished me in return for it, I ask You to deliver me out of his hands; or else have pity on me, and take my soul out of my body now in this strange land." 9 Then God said to Adam, "If only there had been this sighing and praying before, before you transgressed! Then would you have rest from the trouble in which you are now." 10 But God had patience with Adam, and let him and Eve remain in the cave until they had fulfilled the forty days. 11 But as to Adam and Eve, their strength and flesh withered from fasting and praying, from hunger and thirst; for they had not tasted either food or drink since they left the garden; nor were the functions of their bodies yet settled; and they had no strength left to continue in prayer from hunger, until the end of the next day to the fortieth. They were fallen down in the cave; yet what speech escaped from their mouths, was only in praises.

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Chapter LXIX - Twelfth apparition of Satan to Adam and Eve, while Adam was praying over the offering on the altar; when Satan beat him.

1 Then Satan, the hater of all good, envious of Adam and of his offering through which he found favor with God, hastened and took a sharp stone from among the sharp iron stones; appeared in the form of a man, and went and stood by Adam and Eve. 2 Adam was then offering on the altar, and had begun to pray, with his hands spread before God. 3 Then Satan hastened with the sharp iron stone he had with him, and with it pierced Adam on the right side, from which flowed blood and water, then Adam fell on the altar like a corpse. And Satan fled. 4 Then Eve came, and took Adam and placed him below the altar. And there she stayed, crying over him; while a stream of blood flowed from Adam's side over his offering. 5 But God looked at the death of Adam. He then sent His Word, and raised him up and said to him, "Fulfil your offering, for indeed, Adam, it is worth much, and there is no shortcoming in it." 6 God said further to Adam, "Thus will it also happen to Me, on the earth, when I shall be pierced and blood and water shall flow from My side and run over My body, which is the true offering; and which shall be offered on the altar as a perfect offering." 7 Then God commanded Adam to finish his offering, and when he had ended it he worshipped before God, and praised Him for the signs He had showed him. 8 And God healed Adam in one day, which is the end of the seven weeks; and that is the fiftieth day. 9 Then Adam and Eve returned from the mountain, and went into the Cave of Treasures, as they were used to do. This completed for Adam and Eve, one hundred and forty days since their coming out of the garden. 10 Then they both stood up that night and prayed to God. And when it was morning, they went out, and went down westward of the cave, to the place where their corn was, and there rested under the shadow of a tree, as they were accustomed. 11 But when there a multitude of beasts came all around them. It was Satan's doing, in his wickedness; in order to wage war against Adam through marriage." [The Book of Adam and Eve]




It seems to me that much of the work of the final Elijah is yet to come?

1 And Elias the prophet stood up, as a fire, and his word burnt like a torch. 2 He brought a famine upon them, and they that provoked him in their envy, were reduced to a small number, for they could not endure the commandments of the Lord. 3 By the word of the Lord he shut up the heaven, and he brought down fire from heaven thrice. 4 Thus was Elias magnified in his wondrous works. And who can glory like to thee? 5 Who raisedst up a dead man from below, from the lot of death, by the word of the Lord God.

6 Who broughtest down kings to destruction, and brokest easily their power in pieces, and the glorious from their bed. 7 Who heardest judgment in Sina, and in Horeb the judgments of vengeance. 8 Who anointedst kings to penance, and madest prophets successors after thee. 9 Who wast taken up in a whirlwind of fire, in a chariot of fiery horses. 10 Who art registered in the judgments of times to appease the wrath of the Lord, to reconcile the heart of the father to the son, and to restore the tribes of Jacob.

11 Blessed are they that saw thee, and were honoured with thy friendship. 12 For we live only in our life, but after death our name shall not be such. 13 Elias was indeed covered with the whirlwind, and his spirit was filled up in Eliseus: in his days he feared not the prince, and no man was more powerful than he. 14 No word could overcome him, and after death his body prophesied. 15 In his life he did great wonders, and is death he wrought miracles.


I put some more ideas over here that Latter day Saint scholars may find very interesting?



 
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