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Of course, Jesus, and most of the disciples were ethnic Jews, but the church Jesus built was not based on Judaism. If he did so the Christian religion would be the same today as the Jewish religion.You claimed this:
"Methinks you have an ax to grind. Carry on."
Seems you are trying to run from you claim.
If not.....elucidate what aim I can have other than the truth.
When ever we were on the same page, and I am certain we will be again, it will be in agreement based on truth.
I have documented the reason for my belief. It is clear in Matthew, in the words Jesus chose, unless you can find Jesus stating that he was not Jewish........
Nothing wrong with you admitting you are wrong.
It isn't?Of course, Jesus, and most of the disciples were ethnic Jews, but the church Jesus built was not based on Judaism. If he did so the Christian religion would be the same today as the Jewish religion.
Eh, got news for you. Jesus did not build any church.Of course, Jesus, and most of the disciples were ethnic Jews, but the church Jesus built was not based on Judaism. If he did so the Christian religion would be the same today as the Jewish religion.
Most religions incorporate some form of them. Let's talk about the 613 Mitzvahs.It isn't?
Perhaps you've heard of the Ten Commandments?
So, tell us more about this church that Jesus built.Eh, got news for you. Jesus did not build any church.
Such nonsense! Jesus spent his entire life deeply immersed in Jewish religious affairs, from the time of his bar mitzvah to his passionate advocacy of the Temple religion when he swept the money changers from the Temple courtyard to his last supper which was a Passover Seder.Of course, Jesus, and most of the disciples were ethnic Jews, but the church Jesus built was not based on Judaism. If he did so the Christian religion would be the same today as the Jewish religion.
Of course, Jesus was under the old covenant, until his death, which fulfilled much of it. Recall that he left the Jews and preached to the other tribes, to whom he was "sent only". The other tribes were never Judaizers. Judaism didn't arise until the 5th century B.C. when the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity. The other tribes were long gone by then. Jesus began preaching to those who remained after the Assyrian conquest of the northern kingdom in 720 B.C. They immediately recognized him as the messiah.Such nonsense! Jesus spent his entire life deeply immersed in Jewish religious affairs, from the time of his bar mitzvah to his passionate advocacy of the Temple religion when he swept the money changers from the Temple courtyard to his last supper which was a Passover Seder.
You are correct to say early Christianity was a Jewish sect, one that lost its way as it traveled through the Roman Empire, mostly through the ministry of Paul, who was eager to covert Greek pagans, but there is nothing in the Gospels, which is our only source of information about Jesus, to suggest Jesus ever intended or even imagined he was creating a religion separate from Judaism.
I'm saying you have yet to put up a single honest post on this subject.Of course, Jesus was under the old covenant, until his death, which fulfilled much of it. Recall that he left the Jews and preached to the other tribes, to whom he was "sent only". The other tribes were never Judaizers. Judaism didn't arise until the 5th century B.C. when the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity. The other tribes were long gone by then. Jesus began preaching to those who remained after the Assyrian conquest of the northern kingdom in 720 B.C. They immediately recognized him as the messiah.
As always just more bullshit from you. All 12 tribes were Jews when Solomon built the Temple and the palaces and the enormous housing for his wives and concubines, but these enormous construction projects drew workers from the farms and eventually created a large group of unemployed workers roaming the city and when they left Jerusalem it wasn't because they rejected the religion but because they rejected the government that had created this chaos.Of course, Jesus was under the old covenant, until his death, which fulfilled much of it. Recall that he left the Jews and preached to the other tribes, to whom he was "sent only". The other tribes were never Judaizers. Judaism didn't arise until the 5th century B.C. when the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity. The other tribes were long gone by then. Jesus began preaching to those who remained after the Assyrian conquest of the northern kingdom in 720 B.C. They immediately recognized him as the messiah.
You are criticizing something I didn't say. Why are you doing that?As always just more bullshit from you. All 12 tribes were Jews when Solomon built the Temple and the palaces and the enormous housing for his wives and concubines, but these enormous construction projects drew workers from the farms and eventually created a large group of unemployed workers roaming the city and when they left Jerusalem it wasn't because they rejected the religion but because they rejected the government that had created this chaos.
After the 10 tribes split with the government in Jerusalem, they people continued to worship in the same way, visiting the Temple when they could, but while this huge construction project turned Jerusalem into a major trading center on the road between Africa and Asia and the people who lived there enjoyed all the benefits that came with it, the north remained rural and gained none of these benefits, so the split was caused by economic and political factors and there was no religious divide between north and south.
The Assyrian conquest and annexation of the northern kingdom of Israel produced massive deportations of the people of the ten tribes, so it is impossible to say who the residents of the kingdom of Israel were after that, but there was never any evidence of a split on religious grounds before or after the Assyrian conquest and when the Jews of the north finally rebelled and won back some of their land, one of the first things they did was celebrate Passover and return to the Temple.
Your entire narrative is without any basis in fact: there was never a religious split but the division between the north and south was entirely due to economic and political factors.
Hello. Still wating to learn about this "church Jesus built."Of course, Jesus, and most of the disciples were ethnic Jews, but the church Jesus built was not based on Judaism. If he did so the Christian religion would be the same today as the Jewish religion.
Gosh, he won't even tell us the name of this "church Jesus built." I wonder why that is. Heh Heh.Hello. Still wating to learn about this "church Jesus built."