A Light Unto The Nations

[PoliticalChic]

He pretty much taught Jewish values, and definitely was a practicing Jew. The Last Supper was a Passover Seder.

I've been in the room where the last supper was supposed to have taken plac.e

 

[Lisa558]

Yes.....but do you know what Jesus was quoting????

The answer proves my statement that Jesus was always a Jew.


They come from Psalm 22

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1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? (A) Why are you so far (B) from saving me, so far from my cries of anguish? (C) 2 My God, I cry out by day, but you ...


That's why he wouldn't answer.

Of course Jesus was always a Jew! (I’m Jewish, btw.)

The only people who deny that Jesus was a practicing Jew are antisemites who can’t face the fact that their savior was Jewish.

 

[Lisa558]

I've been in the room where the last supper was supposed to have taken plac.e

That’s very interesting. I assume you’ve been to the Church of the Holy Seplachre (sp?)

When things calm down, I’d like to go back to Israel.

 

[Lisa558]

He was a Jew by ethnicity only. He wasn't part of the Jewish religion of his day. He obeyed God's Law, not Jewish traditions.

PoliticalChic

See what I mean? This poster is antisemitic, and thus can’t face that his savior was indeed Jewish.

 

[Lisa558]

Could be enough for an entirely different thread, but the final cry of anguish (My Gd, why has thou forsaken me?) indicates that Jesus had lost faith in Gd that moment.

I can’t say I blame him, though. He was being tortured to death, and in agony.

 

[PoliticalChic]

That’s very interesting. I assume you’ve been to the Church of the Holy Seplachre (sp?)

When things calm down, I’d like to go back to Israel.

Yes.and the Cave of the Patriarchs.

Been to numerous Christian and Jewish holy places.

And the Dome of The Rock, the Pyramids, Valley of the KIngs, King Tut's tomb before you couldn't get all the way in, and mosques in Egypt, Abu Simbel, down the Nile, and Petra in Jordan.

I've been very lucky.

 

[MJB12741]

I for one believe Jesus was an Essene. And that the Essenes were highly influenced by the Persian Zoroastrians in theology after the Babylonian Exile. And that the Dead Sea Schrolls were written by the Essenes & hidden due to not conforming to a more traditional form of Judaism at the time.

 

[Woodznutz]

PoliticalChic

See what I mean? This poster is antisemitic, and thus can’t face that his savior was indeed Jewish.

Now Lisa, you know that isn't true.

 

[Lisa558]

Now Lisa, you know that isn't true.

1) I wasn’t talking to you.

2) You just said upthread that Jesus wasn’t a real Jew.

 

[Moonglow]

Turns out, it is literally true!


1.The instruction manual or Western Civilization is the Bible. And it was used, specifically by America’s Founders, as the basis for our Constitution. Due to the influence of Karl Marx’s religion, you probably didn’t find that fact in government school.

2. The Bible offers the tiny nation of Israel as the model for many of our beliefs, and that is the meaning of the title above.

“Light to the nations (Hebrew: אור לגויים‎, romanized: Or la'Goyim; also "light of the nations", "light of all nations", "light for all nations") is a term originated from the prophet Isaiah which is understood by some to express the universal designation of the Israelites as mentors for spiritual and moral guidance for the entire world.” Wikipedia.




3. It is not just or Western folks. I found the universality represented in this article:

"How the Talmud Became a Best-Seller in South Korea

About an hour’s drive north of Seoul, in the Gwangju Mountains, nearly fifty South Korean children pore over a book. The text is an unlikely choice: the Talmud, the fifteen-hundred-year-old book of Jewish laws. The students are not Jewish, nor are their teachers, and they have no interest in converting. Most have never met a Jew before. But, according to the founder of their school, the students enrolled with the goal of receiving a “Jewish education” in addition to a Korean one.

...their teacher, Park Hyunjun, was explaining that Jews pray wearing two small black boxes, known as tefillin, to help them remember God’s word. He used the Hebrew words shel rosh (“on the head”) and shel yad (“on the arm”) to describe where the boxes are worn. Inside these boxes, he said, was parchment that contained verses from one of the holiest Jewish prayers, the Shema, which Jews recite daily. As the room filled with murmurings of the Shema in Korean, the dean of the school leaned over to me and said that the students recited the prayer daily, too, “with the goal of memorizing it.”
The reverend’s thesis is that the Jews have thrived for so many years because of certain educational and cultural practices, and that such benefits can be unlocked for Christians if those practices are taught to their children.

Outside, over bulgogi, Park Hyunjun laid out the goals behind his curriculum. “I would like to make our students to be people of God and to have charity just like Jewish people,”.....
How the Talmud Became a Best-Seller in South Korea




3. And now, from the South Pacific: “Despite what anti-Zionist ideologues might assume, the Jews of Israel are an inspiration for many Māori
Though I am Māori, I have for many years worked in and around Jewish issues—the memory of the Holocaust, advocacy for Zionism, and fighting antisemitism. But it is only in more recent years that I have become increasingly aware of the parallels that exist between my own claim to indigeneity and that of Jews to the land of Israel.” A Light for the Indigenous Nations


The author cites similarities between his Maori people, and the Jewish people, in claiming indigeneity in each of their lands.

The Maori as a sort of ‘Zionists.’

If they used the Bible, then I can see why they were a bunch of sinners killing each other for the land of milk and honey....

 

[Moonglow]

1) I wasn’t talking to you.

2) You just said upthread that Jesus wasn’t a real Jew.

And the Jews killed him just as they did the other prophets.

 

[Woodznutz]

1) I wasn’t talking to you.

You were talking about me.

2) You just said upthread that Jesus wasn’t a real Jew.

Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah. But the Jewish leaders wanted him dead because he wasn't "Jewish" enough, meaning that he rejected their "traditions" in favor of the actual Law.

Why would pointing that out make me an antisemite?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now Lisa, you know that isn't true.

Then why do you continue with what has been proven to be a lie?

 

[PoliticalChic]

You were talking about me.

Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah. But the Jewish leaders wanted him dead because he wasn't "Jewish" enough, meaning that he rejected their "traditions" in favor of the actual Law.

Why would pointing that out make me an antisemite?

So you beleve that Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew, and never had any intent to separate from the Old Testament?

 

[Woodznutz]

So you beleve that Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew, and never had any intent to separate from the Old Testament?

Jesus brought and taught a "new commandment", much better than the old, but in ways harder to live by. The gospel writers explained it more fully, especially Paul. Note that the church that Jesus built has pared the OT's 613 mitzvah's down drastically.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jesus brought and taught a "new commandment", much better than the old, but in ways harder to live by. The gospel writers explained it more fully, especially Paul. Note that the church that Jesus built has pared the OT's 613 mitzvah's down drastically.

So you don't care to answer.

No law against being a bigot.

Carry on.

 

[MJB12741]

I for one believe Jesus was an Essene. And that the Essenes were highly influenced by the Persian Zoroastrians in theology after the Babylonian Exile. And that the Dead Sea Schrolls were written by the Essenes & hidden due to not conforming to a more traditional form of Judaism at the time.

Ask yourselves who were "the 3 wise men" who came bearing gifts at the birth of Jesus?

 

[Woodznutz]

So you don't care to answer.

No law against being a bigot.

Carry on.

Methinks you have an ax to grind. Carry on.

 

[Woodznutz]

Ask yourselves who were "the 3 wise men" who came bearing gifts at the birth of Jesus?

Three gifts, not three wise men.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Methinks you have an ax to grind. Carry on.

Can you be more specific?

What, exactly, is my aim......other that correcting you errors and upbringing?