A great example of why socialism is better than "charity"

[danielpalos]

Fiscal and monetary policy are command economics and socialism.

No they are not as they cannot command anything and that does not define socialism

lol. Public sector spending is socialism. Only the right never gets it and appeal to ignorance instead of reason.

Roads were built, and other public services provided before socialism ever existed. That would be general welfare that founders were talking about, not welfare checks.

Government and using the Other Peoples' tax money is socialism. Fiscal policies affect our economy and the private sector.

That is not socialism.

simply resorting the the Other Peoples' money is socialism.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Regardless of what thread is about, this turd is there to clog it by shilling for communism.

How many times I have to flush before you go away?

your appeal to ignorance?

We have a mixed market economy.

Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

And the mix is a mess which needs to be repaired by destroying the proven failure of socialist ideas.

the right wing is wasting our exorbitantly expensive superpower on frivolous policies.

So is the left wing

we have better solutions at lower cost. the right wing has nothing but repeal.

You have no solutions but massively higher cost and repeal works.

Repealing bad ideas such as all of the failed socialist policies is the best solution but the right wing will not repeal them which is why the right wing is as bad as the left wing.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism "died in 1929" and socialism has been bailing out capitalism ever since.

Socialism has never bailed out anything and is ok only robbing capitalists

true capitalism is nature not nurture.

It's neither

it must be.

No it is not and there is no reason for it to be

yes, there is. and, you know know that if knew anything about economics instead of simply appealing to ignorance and bigotry.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No they are not as they cannot command anything and that does not define socialism

lol. Public sector spending is socialism. Only the right never gets it and appeal to ignorance instead of reason.

Roads were built, and other public services provided before socialism ever existed. That would be general welfare that founders were talking about, not welfare checks.

Government and using the Other Peoples' tax money is socialism. Fiscal policies affect our economy and the private sector.

That is not socialism.

simply resorting the the Other Peoples' money is socialism.

No it is not.

That has never been the definition of socialism

 

[danielpalos]

your appeal to ignorance?

We have a mixed market economy.

Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

And the mix is a mess which needs to be repaired by destroying the proven failure of socialist ideas.

the right wing is wasting our exorbitantly expensive superpower on frivolous policies.

So is the left wing

we have better solutions at lower cost. the right wing has nothing but repeal.

You have no solutions but massively higher cost and repeal works.

Repealing bad ideas such as all of the failed socialist policies is the best solution but the right wing will not repeal them which is why the right wing is as bad as the left wing.

lol. right wing solutions are worse.

the left is willing to beat Whatever the right wing has to offer by ten percent and help with social costs.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. Public sector spending is socialism. Only the right never gets it and appeal to ignorance instead of reason.

Roads were built, and other public services provided before socialism ever existed. That would be general welfare that founders were talking about, not welfare checks.

Government and using the Other Peoples' tax money is socialism. Fiscal policies affect our economy and the private sector.

That is not socialism.

simply resorting the the Other Peoples' money is socialism.

No it is not.

That has never been the definition of socialism

what if you finance it until you run out of it?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Socialism has never bailed out anything and is ok only robbing capitalists

true capitalism is nature not nurture.

It's neither

it must be.

No it is not and there is no reason for it to be

yes, there. and, you know know that if knew anything about economics instead of simply appealing to ignorance and bigotry.

I have never appealed to ignorance and bigotry you are lying when you say I have.

You have been proven wrong and cannot support your assertions making yout argument the appeal to ignorance.

And no it is not nor does it have to be

 

[2aguy]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Socialism has caused the death of close to 200 million people since it assumed control of countries starting in 1917......and you think this compares to that record of death and destruction?

Really?

 

[Soupnazi630]

And the mix is a mess which needs to be repaired by destroying the proven failure of socialist ideas.

the right wing is wasting our exorbitantly expensive superpower on frivolous policies.

So is the left wing

we have better solutions at lower cost. the right wing has nothing but repeal.

You have no solutions but massively higher cost and repeal works.

Repealing bad ideas such as all of the failed socialist policies is the best solution but the right wing will not repeal them which is why the right wing is as bad as the left wing.

lol. right wing solutions are worse.

the left is willing to beat Whatever the right wing has to offer by ten percent and help with social costs.

They are not worse they are just the same

The left only wants more of the same proven failure while the right refuses to stop them

 

[Soupnazi630]

That has nothing to do with unemployment payments dumbass. It does mean that you get payments if your employer fires you without cause. See, if your a thief at work, you don't get paid. Not enough work? Sure, get a check. A clear thought has no chance of escaping into your posts does it?

An at-will employment State must prove for-cause employment to deny or disparage compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

Stop lying you have been corrected and proven wrong

You know this.

There is no natural rate of unemployment as I irrefutably proved and schooled you on in another thread

anybody can appeal to ignorance. Men can build a wall of arguments.

And so far you have ignorance but no bricks for your wall.

non sequiturs are still fallacies and inferior as an argument.

Which is why you should stop using them

 

[emilynghiem]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Dear Tommy Tainant
??? Isn't the ideal to set up MORE shelters and programs especially LGBT friendly groups that
are trained to handle this sector of the population. Isn't that better than forcing it on a group
not equipped to meet those needs?

Otherwise, your argument could turn into this:
Because Jehovah's Witnesses provide education and Mormons provide social security,
"people should be forced to join these groups instead of going without help at all."

Isn't the better solution to provide more choices instead of
forcing people into programs against their religious beliefs?

What are you going to argue next:
That people are better off in prison in order to get education and medical care?
That's better than being turned away and dumped on the street with no support?

Isn't the solution to that to set up MORE transitional programs to help
people recover instead of being forced into crime and prisons for lack of help.

Do you see how this makes no sense to start
overriding the proper process, out of fear of no other way to get people help.
Why not set up better ways that Don't Require compromise of people's free choice of beliefs?

Tommy Tainant are you just trolling or
did you not think this through enough???

 

[hadit]

Socialism has never bailed out anything and is ok only robbing capitalists

true capitalism is nature not nurture.

It's neither

it must be.

No it is not and there is no reason for it to be

yes, there is. and, you know know that if knew anything about economics instead of simply appealing to ignorance and bigotry.

Look in the mirror. You post nothing but ignorance and fallacy.

 

[danielpalos]

true capitalism is nature not nurture.

It's neither

it must be.

No it is not and there is no reason for it to be

yes, there. and, you know know that if knew anything about economics instead of simply appealing to ignorance and bigotry.

I have never appealed to ignorance and bigotry you are lying when you say I have.

You have been proven wrong and cannot support your assertions making yout argument the appeal to ignorance.

And no it is not nor does it have to be

simply claiming that and explaining why are two seperate things. one requires a valid explanation and the other doesn't.

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing is wasting our exorbitantly expensive superpower on frivolous policies.

So is the left wing

we have better solutions at lower cost. the right wing has nothing but repeal.

You have no solutions but massively higher cost and repeal works.

Repealing bad ideas such as all of the failed socialist policies is the best solution but the right wing will not repeal them which is why the right wing is as bad as the left wing.

lol. right wing solutions are worse.

the left is willing to beat Whatever the right wing has to offer by ten percent and help with social costs.

They are not worse they are just the same

The left only wants more of the same proven failure while the right refuses to stop them

we can do it for less and help with social costs.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Right, they turned away a man. At a Christian shelter. Now they probably should have driven her somewhere else, but they were right.

Tommy, what would your beloved Muslims have done? Why are you always picking on the Christians?

She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

Let's see. Send one person to a different shelter vs. protecting a shelter full of already traumatized and brutalized women from another man. Such a hard call.

As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.

 

[hadit]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Right, they turned away a man. At a Christian shelter. Now they probably should have driven her somewhere else, but they were right.

Tommy, what would your beloved Muslims have done? Why are you always picking on the Christians?

She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

Let's see. Send one person to a different shelter vs. protecting a shelter full of already traumatized and brutalized women from another man. Such a hard call.

As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.

As a man, he's a risk to the battered women. Biology rules.

 

[Conservative65]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Since she's not a woman, he should have been denied. Sounds to me like he wanted special treatment and people to ignore basic biology.

There's an easy solution. How about you bleeding hearts fool enough to believe someone can be a gender because they feel like it take them into your homes.

 

[Conservative65]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Right, they turned away a man. At a Christian shelter. Now they probably should have driven her somewhere else, but they were right.

Tommy, what would your beloved Muslims have done? Why are you always picking on the Christians?

She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

Let's see. Send one person to a different shelter vs. protecting a shelter full of already traumatized and brutalized women from another man. Such a hard call.

As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.

He's not a woman. Basic biology says so. Why do you ignore science?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.

“She” is a man, not a woman. Sane people know the difference.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Right, they turned away a man. At a Christian shelter. Now they probably should have driven her somewhere else, but they were right.

Tommy, what would your beloved Muslims have done? Why are you always picking on the Christians?

She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

Let's see. Send one person to a different shelter vs. protecting a shelter full of already traumatized and brutalized women from another man. Such a hard call.

As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.

He's not a woman. Basic biology says so. Why do you ignore science?

Science disagrees with you.