Zone1 A Great Authority Given Unto the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ

[hobelim]

Spirit is the source of life. Not flesh. We exist in the mind of God. The flesh is of no avail. Long after the flesh is gone, the spirit lives on.

You are confused. Flesh represents teaching as Jesus explained. Words. Aren't you a believer?

 

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But he did explain the symbolism in John 6:68 to the disciples that remained. After he explained that his words are what give life he asked them if they would leave him too to which Simon Peter replied;

"Lord to whom shall we go? Your WORDS are words of eternal life. We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God."

And yet... many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. John 6:64-65

 

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You are confused. Flesh represents teaching as Jesus explained. Words. Aren't you a believer?

Flesh is flesh. He let disciples walk away rather than to soften his stance and make it symbolic. He was given an opportunity to soften it and instead he reinforced what he said by saying the flesh is of no avail.

 

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Aren't you a believer?

Not in what you are peddling.

 

[hobelim]

And yet... many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. John 6:64-65

Right. They were intelligent enough to reject the literal meaning of what he said as insane.

So what.

Obviously you aren't intelligent enough to either leave the bullshit or accept a rational explanation

 

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Right. They were intelligent enough to reject the literal meaning of what he said. So what.

And he let them leave like he let you leave.

 

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Obviously you aren't intelligent enough to either leave the bullshit or accept a rational explanation

I have chosen the better portion, Martha, and it will not be taken away.

 

[hobelim]

And he let them leave like he let you leave.

No, I remain faithful and true to what Jesus taught because I comprehend what he meant.

You bear the mark of the Antichrist. You worship and believe in a maudlin lie. Its irrefutable.

 

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When Mary chose the good portion, she was choosing to keep her priorities straight, and that resulted in Jesus, the Messiah, receiving her full and undivided attention and affection. She was choosing to sit at his feet, listen to his words, and have a full, unbroken view of his face.

 

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No, I remain faithful and true to what Jesus taught because I comprehend what he meant.

You bear the mark of the Antichrist. You worship and believe in a lie. Its irrefutable.

Also something a fanatical religious nutjob would say. You have become what you hate.

 

[hobelim]

And yet... many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. John 6:64-65

But he did explain the symbolism to the disciples that remained. After he said flesh is worthless and his words are what give life he asked them if they would leave too to which Simon Peter said;

"Lord to whom shall we go? Your WORDS are WORDS of eternal life. We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God." John 6:68... (flesh and bread are just metaphors)

"He censures those who understood our Lord's words after the letter, as if they were to eat the carnal body. He expounds the spiritual thing which gives life as to be understood by the text: "the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life."

His word is the life-giving principle, therefore he called his flesh by the same appellation, so we are to "devour Him with the ear, ruminate on Him with the understanding, and digest Him by faith."

Tertullian.

Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. III

 

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But he did explain the symbolism to the disciples that remained. After he said flesh is worthless and his words are what give life he asked them if they would leave too to which Simon Peter said;

"Lord to whom shall we go? Your WORDS are WORDS of eternal life. (not flesh, not bread) We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God." John 6:68

That wasn't Jesus talking so how was that Jesus explaining symbolism. Your reach shows you are getting desperate.

Again...

1. Afterwards his disciples said, this is hard to take. John 6:60
2. Jesus asked them, does this shock you. John 6:61
3. Then Jesus explained that it is the spirit that gives life. The flesh is of no avail. John 6:62-63
4. But they didn't believe in Jesus and they couldn't accept what he was saying because it shocked them like it is shocking you. As a result of this, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. John 6:64-65

He let disciples walk away rather than to soften his stance and make it symbolic. He was given an opportunity to soften it and instead he reinforced what he said by saying the flesh is of no avail.

 

[hobelim]

He let disciples walk away rather than to soften his stance and make it symbolic. He was given an opportunity to soften it and instead he reinforced what he said by saying the flesh is of no avail.

But he did explain the symbolism to the disciples that remained. After he said that his words are what give life, not flesh, he asked them if they would leave him too to which Simon Peter replied;

"Lord to whom shall we go? Your WORDS are WORDS of eternal life. We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God." John 6:68 Whatever you think you are doing in church with bread it is not what Jesus taught. Your sin is as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.

Thanks for proving my point.

You defy the Law of my God and so you are dead and in hell, so completely without life that you don't have enough sense or intelligence or awareness to realize that you died a very long time ago

You have your reward already.

 

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But he did explain the symbolism to the disciples that remained. After he said that his words are what give life, not flesh, he asked them if they would leave him too to which Simon Peter replied;

"Lord to whom shall we go? Your WORDS are WORDS of eternal life. We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God." John 6:68

Thanks for proving my point. You defy the Law of my God and so you are quite dead and in hell.

You have your reward already.

That’s a far cry from I was just kidding it was a metaphor.

Again… he let disciples leave because he wouldn’t make it symbolic.

 

[hobelim]

That’s a far cry from I was just kidding it was a metaphor.

Again… he let disciples leave because he wouldn’t make it symbolic.

He was not kidding. He let the ones leave who didn't have the sense to ask him what he meant.

In private.

You have failed to include in your speculations that at the time during brutal Roman occupation there was no such thing as freedom of speech and people were beaten, enslaved, imprisoned, maimed, and killed on a daily basis for trivial reasons so Jesus used the figurative language of the prophets to speak in code just like any oppressed or criminalized people do and have done throughout the ages up to this day, to speak way above the grasp of their superstitious enemies.

It was stratagem to let people think he was insane. If he didn't he wouldn't have lived for one day. It was his way of weeding out the posers and informants and pretenders liars and hypocrites.

One had to be in the groove to avoid the fuzz and skuzz buckets you grody panty waist. Capisce?

 

[BULLDOG]

Hm. I always assumed it was mere metaphor.

The Bible is absolutely, positively, 100% true for the parts you like. Everything else is just a metaphor.

 

[hobelim]

The Bible is absolutely, positively, 100% true for the parts you like. Everything else is just a metaphor.

"So he drove the man out, and to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword that turns in every direction, to guard the way to the tree of life"

 

[BackAgain]

The Bible is absolutely, positively, 100% true for the parts you like. Everything else is just a metaphor.

Is that a reference to me, personally? Or are you employing the plural “you?”

 

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He was not kidding. He let the ones leave who didn't have the sense to ask him what he meant.

In private. One had to be in the groove to avoid the fuzz and skuzz buckets panty waist. Capisce?

You have failed to include in your speculations that at the time during brutal Roman occupation there was no such thing as freedom of speech and people were beaten, enslaved, imprisoned, maimed, and killed on a daily basis for trivial reasons so Jesus used the figurative language of the prophets to speak in code just like any oppressed or criminalized people do and have done throughout the ages up to this day, to speak way above the grasp of their superstitious enemies.

It was stratagem to let people think he was insane. If he didn't he wouldn't have lived for one day.

You don't accept it because it shocks you. He meant to shock us.

Some of his disciples were shocked by it too.

1. Jesus said he was the bread of life and whoever ate this bread would have eternal life. John 6:48-51
2. The Jews quarreled and said how can this man give us his flesh to eat. John 6:52
3. So rather than softening his stance he doubled down and said very clearly, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. John 6:53
4. Afterwards his disciples said, this is hard to take. John 6:60
5. Jesus asked them, does this shock you. John 6:61
6. Then Jesus explained that it is the spirit that gives life. The flesh is of no avail. John 6:62-63
7. But they didn't believe in Jesus and they couldn't accept what he was saying because it shocked them like it is shocking you. As a result of this, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. John 6:64-65

He let disciples walk away rather than to soften his stance and make it symbolic. He was given an opportunity to soften it and instead he reinforced what he said by saying the flesh is of no avail.

 

[hobelim]

You don't accept it because it shocks you. He meant to shock us.

Nonsense. There is nothing shocking about the ability of words from God to enlighten people.

It was stratagem to let people think he was insane. If he didn't he wouldn't have lived for one day. It was his way of weeding out the posers and informants and pretenders liars and hypocrites.

One had to be in the groove to avoid the fuzz and skuzz buckets you grody panty waist. Capisce?