A Child Can't Call 2 Women or 2 Men "Mom & Dad"

[Silhouette]

How? If a lesbian couple has a kid......how does allowing the lesbian couple marry 'deprive the child of a mother and father'? They have the kid either way. Denying same sex parents marriage doesn't magically mean their children will have opposite sex parents. It only guarantees that they will never have married parents.

How does this benefit the children of same sex couples? The courts have already elaborated eloquently on the immediate legal harms caused by to children by denying marriage to their same sex parents. So what benefit balances the harm?

This is the level of insanity this cult wants people to embrace. "Two lesbians = mom and dad" "A guy cutting off his dick and slicing a hole between his legs is now a woman".

Children should be involved in this as lab rats?!

Now you still haven't answered the question.

How does allowing the lesbian couple to marry deprive the child of a mother or a father?

Or are you intending to accomplish that through mandatory sterilization of lesbians?

We won't discuss how or why people get pregnant here. This topic is about the psychological environment children are raised in. Not the biology of reproduction.

This topic is about whether or not it is wise to institutionalize and incentivize a neo-marriage that by its very physical structure would deprive boys in it of a father or girls in it of a mother. This is a brand new experiment using kids as lab rats.

 

[Syriusly]

How? If a lesbian couple has a kid......how does allowing the lesbian couple marry 'deprive the child of a mother and father'? They have the kid either way. Denying same sex parents marriage doesn't magically mean their children will have opposite sex parents. It only guarantees that they will never have married parents.

How does this benefit the children of same sex couples? The courts have already elaborated eloquently on the immediate legal harms caused by to children by denying marriage to their same sex parents. So what benefit balances the harm?

This is the level of insanity this cult wants people to embrace. "Two lesbians = mom and dad" "A guy cutting off his dick and slicing a hole between his legs is now a woman".

Children should be involved in this as lab rats?!

Now you still haven't answered the question.

How does allowing the lesbian couple to marry deprive the child of a mother or a father?

Or are you intending to accomplish that through mandatory sterilization of lesbians?

We won't discuss how or why people get pregnant here. This topic is about the psychological environment children are raised in. Not the biology of reproduction.

How does allowing the lesbian couple to marry deprive the child of a mother or a father?

 

[bodecea]

How? If a lesbian couple has a kid......how does allowing the lesbian couple marry 'deprive the child of a mother and father'? They have the kid either way. Denying same sex parents marriage doesn't magically mean their children will have opposite sex parents. It only guarantees that they will never have married parents.

How does this benefit the children of same sex couples? The courts have already elaborated eloquently on the immediate legal harms caused by to children by denying marriage to their same sex parents. So what benefit balances the harm?

This is the level of insanity this cult wants people to embrace. "Two lesbians = mom and dad" "A guy cutting off his dick and slicing a hole between his legs is now a woman".

Children should be involved in this as lab rats?!

Now you still haven't answered the question.

How does allowing the lesbian couple to marry deprive the child of a mother or a father?

Or are you intending to accomplish that through mandatory sterilization of lesbians?

We won't discuss how or why people get pregnant here. This topic is about the psychological environment children are raised in. Not the biology of reproduction.

This topic is about whether or not it is wise to institutionalize and incentivize a neo-marriage that by its very physical structure would deprive boys in it of a father or girls in it of a mother. This is a brand new experiment using kids as lab rats.

So...what is the difference between a gay unmarried couple raising a child and a gay married couple raising a child?

 

[Skylar]

We won't discuss how or why people get pregnant here. This topic is about the psychological environment children are raised in. Not the biology of reproduction.

And how is marriage relevant to what you're discussing? If a lesbian couple with kids is married....or if their not married, the kids still have same sex marriage.

Marriage simply has nothing to do with the issues you're discussing. Which you know. Which is why this question sends you running every time:

How does allowing the lesbian couple to marry deprive the child of a mother or a father?

You have no answer, as it doesn't. Keep running.

 

[Skylar]

How? If a lesbian couple has a kid......how does allowing the lesbian couple marry 'deprive the child of a mother and father'? They have the kid either way. Denying same sex parents marriage doesn't magically mean their children will have opposite sex parents. It only guarantees that they will never have married parents.

How does this benefit the children of same sex couples? The courts have already elaborated eloquently on the immediate legal harms caused by to children by denying marriage to their same sex parents. So what benefit balances the harm?

This is the level of insanity this cult wants people to embrace. "Two lesbians = mom and dad" "A guy cutting off his dick and slicing a hole between his legs is now a woman".

Children should be involved in this as lab rats?!

Now you still haven't answered the question.

How does allowing the lesbian couple to marry deprive the child of a mother or a father?

Or are you intending to accomplish that through mandatory sterilization of lesbians?

We won't discuss how or why people get pregnant here. This topic is about the psychological environment children are raised in. Not the biology of reproduction.

This topic is about whether or not it is wise to institutionalize and incentivize a neo-marriage that by its very physical structure would deprive boys in it of a father or girls in it of a mother. This is a brand new experiment using kids as lab rats.

So...what is the difference between a gay unmarried couple raising a child and a gay married couple raising a child?

We've all pretty much picked up on the elephant in the livingroom: marriage has nothing to do with the gender of a child's parents.

Simply destroying Sil's entire argument.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Two ladies can only say so much to a boy about circumcision since they themselves do no experience such a thing and what can two guys say to a girl about going through her period when they themselves have never had one before?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How? If a lesbian couple has a kid......how does allowing the lesbian couple marry 'deprive the child of a mother and father'? They have the kid either way. Denying same sex parents marriage doesn't magically mean their children will have opposite sex parents. It only guarantees that they will never have married parents.

How does this benefit the children of same sex couples? The courts have already elaborated eloquently on the immediate legal harms caused by to children by denying marriage to their same sex parents. So what benefit balances the harm?

This is the level of insanity this cult wants people to embrace. "Two lesbians = mom and dad" "A guy cutting off his dick and slicing a hole between his legs is now a woman".

Children should be involved in this as lab rats?!

Now you still haven't answered the question.

How does allowing the lesbian couple to marry deprive the child of a mother or a father?

Or are you intending to accomplish that through mandatory sterilization of lesbians?

We won't discuss how or why people get pregnant here. This topic is about the psychological environment children are raised in. Not the biology of reproduction.

This topic is about whether or not it is wise to institutionalize and incentivize a neo-marriage that by its very physical structure would deprive boys in it of a father or girls in it of a mother. This is a brand new experiment using kids as lab rats.

In order for your 'argument' to be valid and consistent – which it is neither, you'd need to not only prohibit same-sex couples from marrying, but make it illegal for them to have custody of children at all, and make it illegal for single parent households to likewise have custody of children.

But your 'argument' is based solely on your hatred of gay Americans, where you use fear-mongering and demagoguery in an attempt to confuse the issue in bad faith, having no concern whatsoever for the welfare of children.

Indeed, what you advocate is harmful to children, to seek to deny them loving parents and a stable, loving home.

 

[Montrovant]

Two ladies can only say so much to a boy about circumcision since they themselves do no experience such a thing and what can two guys say to a girl about going through her period when they themselves have never had one before?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Circumcision? Really? I'm going to guess that the vast majority of men have no memory at all of being circumcised.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You excluded another possibility, protecting innocent children by not allowing perverts to adopt them in the first place.

Gays and lesbians can adopt in all but one state without gay marriage. So your 'third possibility' has a very, very narrow application. In virtually every instance in the nation, it doesn't apply. While one of my two possibilities does.

And can I take it from your failure to cite any benefit to a child created by denying their same sex parents the right to marry......

.....that you recognize there is no such benefit?

Because you didn't read my post. I'll put it more simply. Don't let perverts adopt children and no child will be harmed. It's a solution that entirely precludes the issue of marriage.

What relevance does that have with gay marriage?

None. I don't care about your make believe playing house games, just don't suck an innocent child into your crazy pervert world.

And that's my point: that gay marriage is irrelevant to the issues being discussed.

You're the one off topic, jackass.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Two ladies can only say so much to a boy about circumcision since they themselves do no experience such a thing and what can two guys say to a girl about going through her period when they themselves have never had one before?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Circumcision? Really? I'm going to guess that the vast majority of men have no memory at all of being circumcised.

No, but I still winced when my mom showed me a video of my procedure.

 

[Silhouette]

So...what is the difference between a gay unmarried couple raising a child and a gay married couple raising a child?

To society or just your single example? Because society would suffer over time by institutionalizing and incentivizing a formative environment where boys are missing a father and girls are missing a mother..

 

[Silhouette]

Since marriage is the hub of any society and the place where ideally all children should form from, this question needs the weigh in from the masses to set not just today's laws but the formation of the collective-future.

This isn't about some kids caught up in gay lifestyles. This is about ALL kids, forever. This is a brand new concept, stripping boys of a father and girls of a mother with an incentive program. Everyone needs to weigh in. And this of course was the wisdom of Windsor:

United States v. Windsor Page 14

After a statewide deliberative process that enabled its citizens to discuss and weigh arguments for and against same-sex marriage, New York acted...."..."Against this background of lawful same-sex marriage in some States..."

 

[Montrovant]

Two ladies can only say so much to a boy about circumcision since they themselves do no experience such a thing and what can two guys say to a girl about going through her period when they themselves have never had one before?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Circumcision? Really? I'm going to guess that the vast majority of men have no memory at all of being circumcised.

No, but I still winced when my mom showed me a video of my procedure.

Why did she do that? Was she upset with you about something?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Two ladies can only say so much to a boy about circumcision since they themselves do no experience such a thing and what can two guys say to a girl about going through her period when they themselves have never had one before?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Circumcision? Really? I'm going to guess that the vast majority of men have no memory at all of being circumcised.

No, but I still winced when my mom showed me a video of my procedure.

Why did she do that? Was she upset with you about something?

I asked to see it, then regretted the shit out of it.

 

[Skylar]

Since marriage is the hub of any society and the place where ideally all children should form from, this question needs the weigh in from the masses to set not just today's laws but the formation of the collective-future.

Actually, the courts need to address the question they are being asked. Which is this:

The cases are consolidated and the petitions for writs of certiorari are granted limited to the following questions: 1) Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex? 2) Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a state to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-state?

http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/011615zr_f2q3.pdf

Those are the questions that are being asked of the court. Those are the questions that the court is going to answer. Not whatever rambling diatribe you've made up this week.

 

[Skylar]

Gays and lesbians can adopt in all but one state without gay marriage. So your 'third possibility' has a very, very narrow application. In virtually every instance in the nation, it doesn't apply. While one of my two possibilities does.

And can I take it from your failure to cite any benefit to a child created by denying their same sex parents the right to marry......

.....that you recognize there is no such benefit?

Because you didn't read my post. I'll put it more simply. Don't let perverts adopt children and no child will be harmed. It's a solution that entirely precludes the issue of marriage.

What relevance does that have with gay marriage?

None. I don't care about your make believe playing house games, just don't suck an innocent child into your crazy pervert world.

And that's my point: that gay marriage is irrelevant to the issues being discussed.

You're the one off topic, jackass.

CHeck out the second paragraph of the OP and its citation of marriage. Which has nothing to do with 'a child calling 2 women or 2 men 'mom and dad'.'

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Because you didn't read my post. I'll put it more simply. Don't let perverts adopt children and no child will be harmed. It's a solution that entirely precludes the issue of marriage.

What relevance does that have with gay marriage?

None. I don't care about your make believe playing house games, just don't suck an innocent child into your crazy pervert world.

And that's my point: that gay marriage is irrelevant to the issues being discussed.

You're the one off topic, jackass.

CHeck out the second paragraph of the OP and its citation of marriage. Which has nothing to do with 'a child calling 2 women or 2 men 'mom and dad'.'

Two abominations, only one hurts a child. The push for unrestricted access to children by perverts is a natural corollary to gay marriage, which is only step one in creating a false sense of legitimacy and the illusion of "family".

I don't mind consenting adults indulging in their fantasies, but when they suck innocent children into their perv bizarre, that's where society needs to step in and say no.

 

[Skylar]

What relevance does that have with gay marriage?

None. I don't care about your make believe playing house games, just don't suck an innocent child into your crazy pervert world.

And that's my point: that gay marriage is irrelevant to the issues being discussed.

You're the one off topic, jackass.

CHeck out the second paragraph of the OP and its citation of marriage. Which has nothing to do with 'a child calling 2 women or 2 men 'mom and dad'.'

Two abominations, only one hurts a child. The push for unrestricted access to children by perverts is a natural corollary to gay marriage, which is only step one in creating a false sense of legitimacy and the illusion of "family".

I don't mind consenting adults indulging in their fantasies, but when they suck innocent children into their perv bizarre, that's where society needs to step in and say no.

And if you deny marriage to lesbian parents, their kids suddenly have opposite sex parents?

Of course not. Marriage has nothing to do with this. You yourself have admitted it has no relevance. Which is exactly my point.

 

[bodecea]

So...what is the difference between a gay unmarried couple raising a child and a gay married couple raising a child?

To society or just your single example? Because society would suffer over time by institutionalizing and incentivizing a formative environment where boys are missing a father and girls are missing a mother..

Why can't you answer the question?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

None. I don't care about your make believe playing house games, just don't suck an innocent child into your crazy pervert world.

And that's my point: that gay marriage is irrelevant to the issues being discussed.

You're the one off topic, jackass.

CHeck out the second paragraph of the OP and its citation of marriage. Which has nothing to do with 'a child calling 2 women or 2 men 'mom and dad'.'

Two abominations, only one hurts a child. The push for unrestricted access to children by perverts is a natural corollary to gay marriage, which is only step one in creating a false sense of legitimacy and the illusion of "family".

I don't mind consenting adults indulging in their fantasies, but when they suck innocent children into their perv bizarre, that's where society needs to step in and say no.

And if you deny marriage to lesbian parents, their kids suddenly have opposite sex parents?

Of course not. Marriage has nothing to do with this. You yourself have admitted it has no relevance. Which is exactly my point.

That's like saying, "If the kids don't have a pedophile babysitter, do they suddenly a straight babysitter?" Kids are better off growing up in an orphanage than a sick domestic structure where perversion is made to seem normal.