78% of America supports President Trump deporting illegal criminals.

[protectionist]

I looked it up and what you said is FALSE.
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A/I Gemini

No, an officer cannot shoot simply because a suspect's hands are out of sight.
Under the Fourth Amendment and the landmark case Tennessee v. Garner, police may only use deadly force if they have probable cause to believe the suspect poses an immediate threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. Losing sight of a suspect's hands is a safety concern that justifies commands or physical restraint, but it does not automatically meet the legal threshold for lethal force.


The standard used is "objective reasonableness," established by the Supreme Court in Graham v. Connor. This means an officer's actions are judged based on what a "reasonable officer" would do in the same situation, without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.


Courts look at three main factors:

• The severity of the crime.
• Whether the suspect poses an immediate threat to anyone.
• Whether the suspect is actively resisting or attempting to flee.

An officer must perceive an actual, immediate danger—not just a possibility—before using deadly force. Simply hiding one's hands is considered a "suspicious" or "furtive" movement that justifies drawing a weapon or giving loud commands, but it isn't enough to pull the trigger on its own.

FALSE!..and as I said previously the courts have upheld shootings based on disappeared hands (killings - and I named some examples - you've already been refuted)

All you've done here is display your lack of common sense and details of police procedure. YOU foolishly think an unfrisked suspect reaching into a jacket, a center console, a car window, or just behind his body is not an actual, immediate danger ? How stupid.

The courts have repearedly disagreed with you. They follow the 60 years of police academy class that knows that to go from a disappeared hand to one firing a gun, takes about 1/4 of a second. The cop has zero chance to defend himself.

The aqcuittals of Betty Shelby, Jeronimo Yanez, Philp Brailsford, et al cops, all consistently verify. Try looking THEM UP.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do they support killing Americans in the process? Let me know if that was part of the question.

Democrats must support killing Americans. After all, they support and protect the murderers of Americans every day.

 

[Lesh]

Democrats must support killing Americans. After all, they support and protect the murderers of Americans every day.

Bullshit

But you certainly support these killings of AMERICAN CITIZENS

 

[Nostra]

As noted, you cannot conjure up any public surveys that reflect your mindless devotion,

​

Your delusions are humorous, Shitlips.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

SBullshit

But you certainly support these killings of AMERICAN CITIZENS

Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn Nungary, Rachel Morin, Laken Reilly were American Citizens they don't count because they were murdered by democrat pets. So don't bother blathering about the protection of invasive species.

 

[drudge X]

Bullshit

But you certainly support these killings of AMERICAN CITIZENS

How many vigils have you attended or even calling for one honoring citizens who were murdered by illegal aliens?

 

[protectionist]

Bullshit

But you certainly support these killings of AMERICAN CITIZENS

By supporting illegal immigration, you are supporting illegal aliens. That includes the killers of the "AMERICAN CITIZENS" who EvilCat Breah mentioned, + also Debrin Kawam who was set on fire & burned to death on a New York subway train by an illegal alien.

 

[toobfreak]

Why are they [democrats] actively attacking law enforcement to keep murderers and child rapists in their neighborhoods?’’

Because criminals, illegals, perverts and freaks are all that democrats have left to bank on for votes.

 

[protectionist]

Bullshit

But you certainly support these killings of AMERICAN CITIZENS

The Americans you are referring to (Rachel Good & Alex Pretti) essentially killed themselves, by immersing themselves too deep into extremely dangerous police confrontations, while not knowing how to do that safely. They were overidealistic and naive.

 

[protectionist]

Because criminals, illegals, perverts and freaks are all that democrats have left to bank on for votes.

True. And that being said, I have never seen such a pitiful, sorry bunch of loser sad sacks in all my life. These people bring the word REASSESS, up to an unprecedented level.

 

[WelfareQueen]

What do they want?

Feds not shooting people in the back of the head would be a nice start.

Sick ***** like you enjoy that sort of thing so I doubt you’d understand.

Thank you for expressing concern for Ashli Babbitt.

 

[toobfreak]

What do they want?

Easy question: they want absolute control now to dictate to the federal government which laws you can pick and chose to obey and ignore. Obey the ones that benefit an agenda set forth by Mexican cartels, and ignore the ones that just get in your way effectively making this a gang-led country not much different from any other central American country.

Feds not shooting people in the back of the head would be a nice start.

Got a picture of the bullet-hole? At least make up your minds so you can all agree on your lies. Others claim he was shot in the back. I think what you're really trying to say is for people like Pretti to not give federal officers no choice left but TO shoot a guy in self defense who just would not take any other resolution as an answer. It kind of spoils your plans if people end up getting shot and killed just so that you can stop the deportation of criminal illegals, and keep those drugs and human trafficking flowing across the border that these criminal 3rd world countries have literally based their existence on.

 

[kyzr]

Nope the thread is a LIE. Trump is punishing people who never committed a crime. Now you are the kind of idiot who will claim applying for asylum is a crime, its not. People want murderers or rapists punished or deported. The super vast majority of people dont want day laborers dragged off the job like an animal and caged.
Trumps policies are super unpopular. Have you looked at his approval ratings? They suck. That is why this general question is being twisted in an attempt to create the illusion of popularity... its because Trump is so deeply unpopular.

Translated: we need every illegal alien to make more democrat voters via "asylum".

Outcome: Trump (and JD) will deport as many illegals as they can before the 2030 census and the blue states lose EC votes and red states gain EC votes.

We'll see in November how voters evaluate democrat policies and republican policies, should be close.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Once again, the Democrat party opposes the American people. Why are they actively attacking law enforcement to keep murderers and child rapists in their neighborhoods?’’

Because they hate America.

 

[citygator]

Translated: we need every illegal alien to make more democrat voters via "asylum".

Outcome: Trump (and JD) will deport as many illegals as they can before the 2030 census and the blue states lose EC votes and red states gain EC votes.

We'll see in November how voters evaluate democrat policies and republican policies, should be close.

You have to be a citizen to vote genius. Your racist replacement theory is just so cliche.

Id be surprised if the midterms are close. Republicans are bracing for it not to be.

 

[protectionist]

You have to be a citizen to vote genius. Your racist replacement theory is just so cliche.

Id be surprised if the midterms are close. Republicans are bracing for it not to be.

Are you so stupid that you think you can snooker people into believing that what has been happening by the millions for 70 years, doesn't happen ? You guys are pathetic.

Maybe Biden brought 14 million illegal aliens into the country because he got tired of hearing English being spoken. Ya think ?


Not hard to see why the Democratic Party is ceasing to exist. Now the dum dums are fighting ICE in the streets, against the will of the people.

 

[protectionist]

Nope the thread is a LIE. Trump is punishing people who never committed a crime. Now you are the kind of idiot who will claim applying for asylum is a crime, its not. People want murderers or rapists punished or deported. The super vast majority of people dont want day laborers dragged off the job like an animal and caged.

Trumps policies are super unpopular. Have you looked at his approval ratings? They suck. That is why this general question is being twisted in an attempt to create the illusion of popularity... its because Trump is so deeply unpopular.

FALSE, FALSE, and more FALSE. The falsities are bouncing off the walls.

1. To seek asylum in the U.S., you must be physically present in the country. That means that person must have illegally crossed the border, violating US Code 8-1325, a CRIME (and a tort)
2. The majority of Americans want ALL illegal aliens removed.
3. Trump's policies are more popular than ever
4. Yeah, I've looked at the ratings. Now you look at them >>>

 

[protectionist]

Yet you’re the only one trying to indicate some difference between the two deaths. Neither death should have happened. The difference is that there are (and always will be) criminals among us. Thugs like the one who killed Pretti shouldn’t be give a badge...they should be given a life sentence.

The guy who killed Pretti did it according to standard police self-defense protocol, which has been taught in police academies all across America for 60 years. You don't know that protocol because you are a leftist liberal who all have one thing in common > cluelessness about guns & law enforcement.

Here's the education your teachers never gave you. When threatened by someone who you don't know if they possess a gun or not, the rule is if/when the hand(s) disappear from your view, SHOOT & shoot to kill.

Before you ignorantly try to dismiss this, note that the hands VISIBLE & EMPTY rule has been upheld in one court case after another >>
Examples:
Betty Shelby & Terrence Crutcher
Jeronimo Yanez & Philando Castille
Philip Brailsford & Daniel Shaver

 

[candycorn]

Easy question: they want absolute control now to dictate to the federal government which laws you can pick and chose to obey and ignore. Obey the ones that benefit an agenda set forth by Mexican cartels, and ignore the ones that just get in your way effectively making this a gang-led country not much different from any other central American country.


Got a picture of the bullet-hole? At least make up your minds so you can all agree on your lies. Others claim he was shot in the back. I think what you're really trying to say is for people like Pretti to not give federal officers no choice left but TO shoot a guy in self defense who just would not take any other resolution as an answer. It kind of spoils your plans if people end up getting shot and killed just so that you can stop the deportation of criminal illegals, and keep those drugs and human trafficking flowing across the border that these criminal 3rd world countries have literally based their existence on.

I get you dipshits mixed up...

Were you the moron who was telling us he was studying medicine at the age of 6?

 

[candycorn]

The guy who killed Pretti did it according to standard police self-defense protocol, which has been taught in police academies all across America for 60 years. You don't know that protocol because you are a leftist liberal who all have one thing in common > cluelessness about guns & law enforcement.

Here's the education your teachers never gave you. When threatened by someone who you don't know if they possess a gun or not, the rule is if/when the hand(s) disappear from your view, SHOOT & shoot to kill.

Before you ignorantly try to dismiss this, note that the hands VISIBLE & EMPTY rule has been upheld in one court case after another >>
Examples:
Betty Shelby & Terrence Crutcher
Jeronimo Yanez & Philando Castille
Philip Brailsford & Daniel Shaver

You know less about “standard police self-defense protocol” than you know about filing a lawsuit (something you threatened to do 2 years ago against me).