depotoo
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Interesting newly revised numbers, with an apology during the Gruber hearing. Now, how many actually lost their healthcare? Wasn't the number in the first few months around 5 million? What is it now? A net gain of around 2 million? A number of 43-47 million without healthcare? How many billions spent that most are now seeing greatly increased out of pocket costs? And for what?
Am I happy for those with pre-existing conditions that now have coverage? Yes. Happy at the cost to others ? No. Do I know someone that couldn't afford premiums before because of lupus diagnosis? Yes. Was she excited at prospect of getting affordable coverage? Yes. Did that happen? No. She can't afford the premiums, just as she couldn't before. Did she sign up anyway? No. Is she willing to pay the fine? Yes. It is much more affordable.
And it is much more affordable to go to the doctor a couple of times a year, and pay for those visits herself, than to pay the premiums on top of out of pocket before the payment kicks in.
And Gruber? You really need to listen to the hearing once it is uploaded to c-span. Amazing how he promised to answer questions, yet told them to consult with his council, instead of answering their questions multiple times, even not answering prehearing documents truthfully.
Same goes for Tavenner, with her lack of transparency.
Am I happy for those with pre-existing conditions that now have coverage? Yes. Happy at the cost to others ? No. Do I know someone that couldn't afford premiums before because of lupus diagnosis? Yes. Was she excited at prospect of getting affordable coverage? Yes. Did that happen? No. She can't afford the premiums, just as she couldn't before. Did she sign up anyway? No. Is she willing to pay the fine? Yes. It is much more affordable.
And it is much more affordable to go to the doctor a couple of times a year, and pay for those visits herself, than to pay the premiums on top of out of pocket before the payment kicks in.
And Gruber? You really need to listen to the hearing once it is uploaded to c-span. Amazing how he promised to answer questions, yet told them to consult with his council, instead of answering their questions multiple times, even not answering prehearing documents truthfully.
Same goes for Tavenner, with her lack of transparency.