57 Buffalo cops resign from response team after officers suspended for shoving 75-year-old man to ground; DA investigating incident

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A 75 year old man standing by himself, does not need to be shoved to the ground.

They did not shove him to the ground

He was not following the orders of liberal democrat der fuhrer of Buffalo and the cops were pushing bim along

clearly he stumbled over bis own feet

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

A handcuffed man with four cops around him doesn’t need to have a knee blocking his breathing for nine minutes.

We all agree this was unnecessary no matter what sort of person Floyd was. This was wrong.

A 75 year old man standing by himself, does not need to be shoved to the ground.

Martin Gugino put himself in harm's way by walking straight into a contingent of Buffalo tactical officers
and getting in an officer's face, even touching his belt while haranguing him.
He's a well known local activist and he should accept the risks of provoking authorities which was his intent,
by the look of things.

Gugino clearly has the motor skills of a 75 year old man and he lost his own balance while simply back pedaling.

 

[OldLady]

I think the mayor made a "politically correct" call on this one, and it was the wrong call. This well known activist in the community, regardless of his age, got in the cop's face while the cop was marching to clear the street. The other cop gave him a push out of the way. He didn't pepper spray him or taze him or smack him with his baton. I'm sorry the guy cracked his head on the sidewalk, but that happens sometimes when people fall. The cop directly behind them called an ambulance. Yes, it would have been a nice thing to do if one of them had stopped to see what he could do for the old guy 'til the medics arrived, but do the cops do that? I don't know. This wasn't patrolling the midway at the County Fair. They were apparently clearing a protest that had gotten out of hand.

It's the mayor who made the bad call because he has been meeting with protesters (a good thing) and trying to calm things down. Then an old guy gets hurt in the fray and it sounds good to call it police brutality. It's guff. The guy fell down and hurt his head. It's unfortunate but it wasn't intentional nor was it "undue" force. I don't blame the team for resigning. When you've doing your job and the boss undermines you, it's not worth risking your life for anymore.

If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.

Wow! What happened to you? You made much reasoned sense.

 

[OldLady]

If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.

Wow! What happened to you? You made much reasoned sense.

I'm not who you guys keep pretending I am. When are you ever gonna figure that out?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.

Wow! What happened to you? You made much reasoned sense.

I'm not who you guys keep pretending I am. When are you ever gonna figure that out?

When your sensible posts continue and out number the senseless ones.

 

[OldLady]

If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.

Wow! What happened to you? You made much reasoned sense.

I'm not who you guys keep pretending I am. When are you ever gonna figure that out?

When your sensible posts continue and out number the senseless ones.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Andylusion]

They are wrong

The two cops were out of line

Nope, you are in the wrong. Not them.

I didn’t shove a 75 year old to the ground

You can be wrong about something, without shoving 75 year olds to the ground.

And just because you are 75, doesn't mean you can't be shoved to the ground, when you are acting stupid.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That was a small push and the guy tripped .............the pavement caused the damage...........

Was not an intentional take down........incidental only.

We had a guy in the engine room who knocked knocked cold.......hit a steal deck with the back of his head falling down.......and didn't know his own name for hours..........was an asshole though............got what he deserved on that one..........not related to this old guy in the Op

The cop caused it all, if he had not pushed him, it would not have happened.

Would you rather he bashed his head in with a baton? There was no way for that officer to have foreseen the old man stumble and fall, striking his head, none whatsoever!

There was no need to push the guy.

There was a need as the police line was advancing and he approached them. He got a slight shove and then staggered backward, falling and striking his head. That could have happened at Starbucks!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They are wrong

The two cops were out of line

Nope, you are in the wrong. Not them.

I didn’t shove a 75 year old to the ground

You can be wrong about something, without shoving 75 year olds to the ground.

And just because you are 75, doesn't mean you can't be shoved to the ground, when you are acting stupid.

Let's be clear, he was not "shoved to the ground" any more than saying he was hit over the head with a two-by-four!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He did trip on his own. Watch the video and see where he was pushed and how many steps he took backwards before falling.

The shoving resulted in him falling and hitting his head.

You fucking pathetic bootlicker

That shove could have knocked him into the path of a freight train, but it didn't! Dumbass! There was no way the cop could have foreseen him busting his brain cage on the sidewalk.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wow, did ANYONE expect this?! I will say, whatever side you are on the issue of the push that hurt that older gentleman, this response is that of people truly putting their money where their mouth is.


57 Buffalo cops resign from response team after officers suspended for shoving 75-year-old man to ground; DA investigating incident


All 57 officers of the Buffalo Police Emergency Response team resigned Friday afternoon in support of two police officers who were suspended without pay after shoving a 75-year-old man to the ground during a protest.

A police union representative told WKBW that the officers were following orders given to them by Deputy Police Commissioner Joe Gramaglia to clear the area and do not believe they were in the wrong.

While the members of the emergency response team resigned from their specific roles, they did not resign from the police department altogether and are still employed.

Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said in a statement his office "is aware of developments related to the world assignments of certain members of the Buffalo police force."

He added: "At this time, we can confirm that contingency plans are in place to maintain police services and ensure public safety within our community."

He was not shoved to the ground. He was shoved and stumbled over his own two feet before falling backwards, striking his head on the sidewalk.

Shoved and stumbled

Maybe that is why you don’t shove elderly people

That is why elderly people should not be attempting to break police lines!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That was a small push and the guy tripped .............the pavement caused the damage...........

Was not an intentional take down........incidental only.

We had a guy in the engine room who knocked knocked cold.......hit a steal deck with the back of his head falling down.......and didn't know his own name for hours..........was an asshole though............got what he deserved on that one..........not related to this old guy in the Op

Small push to a 75 year-old... and even if you want to die on the hill of that argument, they are REQUIRED to provide first aid to a citizen in medical distress.

The other police officer pointed to the one stopping at first and called it in on the radio for medical attention...........You guys HYPE EVERYTHING.

Calling it in is NOT providing 1st aid... the guy was pooling blood coming out of his ears. Jesus. If that was your grandfather or father you sure as fuck wouldn't be so simple. No one stopped to check his pulse or to see if he was still breathing. The one officer that started to was immediately pulled away and did not try to contest.

I don't live in fantasy Island where the police can shit emt's immediately, and aid comes from lightning bolts from their asses................I see no intent of doing harm here.........Aid was rendered........medical personnel were called.

And yet here you are hyping the dang thing.........My parents or grandparents, god rest their souls, wouldn't have been trying to impede the police from stopping riots........So your comparison is BS

I'm going to cue you in on a very poorly kept secret... Police officers are given 1st aid training, and in a lot of states if a person is trained in 1st aid and there is a medical emergency, they are legally obligated to provide it. Calling an EMT over the radio is NOT providing 1st aid, it is merely a step in doing so. You might want to educate yourself a bit before responding so you don't make yourself look foolish.

If you watch the video, an EMT was already there within seconds of the call being made. Conscience disregard of the facts is a libtard tactic. Are you sure you want to go there?

 

[Leo123]

They are wrong

The two cops were out of line

It was one cop and I'm sure he didn't think the guy would trip on that concrete ball...the other cop got on his phone and called an ambulance...and then the cops had to attend to the rioters rushing towards them....at least that's what I saw on the video...

They walked right past him without bothering to see if he was hurt.
He was shoved and fell backwards

There were protesters rushing into the area...they had to confront them.....

No threat from a 70 year old

So, all 70 year olds can't be threatening? How stupid are you?

 

[Jarlaxle]

So you’re saying the police were threatened by a 75 year old man?

He's just a copsucker.

 

[colfax_m]

He did trip on his own. Watch the video and see where he was pushed and how many steps he took backwards before falling.

The shoving resulted in him falling and hitting his head.

You fucking pathetic bootlicker

That shove could have knocked him into the path of a freight train, but it didn't! Dumbass! There was no way the cop could have foreseen him busting his brain cage on the sidewalk.

If the cop couldn’t have foreseen hurting his head as a possibility of shoving him, he’s an idiot.

 

[Olde Europe]

I think the mayor made a "politically correct" call on this one, and it was the wrong call. This well known activist in the community, regardless of his age, got in the cop's face while the cop was marching to clear the street. The other cop gave him a push out of the way. He didn't pepper spray him or taze him or smack him with his baton. I'm sorry the guy cracked his head on the sidewalk, but that happens sometimes when people fall. The cop directly behind them called an ambulance. Yes, it would have been a nice thing to do if one of them had stopped to see what he could do for the old guy 'til the medics arrived, but do the cops do that? I don't know. This wasn't patrolling the midway at the County Fair. They were apparently clearing a protest that had gotten out of hand.

It's the mayor who made the bad call because he has been meeting with protesters (a good thing) and trying to calm things down. Then an old guy gets hurt in the fray and it sounds good to call it police brutality. It's guff. The guy fell down and hurt his head. It's unfortunate but it wasn't intentional nor was it "undue" force. I don't blame the team for resigning. When you've doing your job and the boss undermines you, it's not worth risking your life for anymore.

If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.

"If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise."

What you obviously haven't seen in a while is your humanity. Be advised, you better go find it.

Police are there to serve and protect. Is there something overly complicated about "serve and protect"? They are entitled to using force insofar, and to the degree necessary, as required to protect goods higher than those they damage. Shoving the old fart within an inch of his life was disproportionate, brutal, and a textbook example of what is wrong with U.S. police. What is more, the unit then lied about the incident, which is even more of a telltale sign for what is wrong with policing. The two ghouls should be fired immediately, as should be those who lied about it, and they should be personally liable for all the costs emerging from their brutality. The unit that is refusing to do their assigned job should be given another chance resuming it, and otherwise also be dealt with like someone unwilling to do the job requested from him.

If you don't understand that (sadly, care4all also doesn't seem to care for all), there really is no way to help, unless, of course, you retrieve your misplaced humanity. You, and folks like you, who stand behind the police even when they are clearly in the wrong, are the support that enables the ghouls. They then sit on juries and fail to convict police murderers for reasons defying any and all efforts at understanding. That's bad enough. They are one of the main reasons why Floyd ended up dead, and for the outrage and the riots playing out on the streets right now. The outright Nazis on this thread, eager to have a police state, aren't even worth a mention.

I hate, really, hate smartphones. In many a way they are a symptom of what is wrong with this Me! Me! Me! Western world. There is just one redeeming quality about them: They serve to document police brutality, and police murders, in particular. From Scott, to Arbery, to Floyd to the old guy, and all too many before and since, police have a harder time to get away with their lies. That's undeniably, undoubtedly, unambiguously a good thing. All that's missing right now is folks finding their misplaced humanity and mete out punishment commensurate to the brutality meted out to perfectly non-threatening victims.

 

[rightwinger]

They are wrong

The two cops were out of line

It was one cop and I'm sure he didn't think the guy would trip on that concrete ball...the other cop got on his phone and called an ambulance...and then the cops had to attend to the rioters rushing towards them....at least that's what I saw on the video...

They walked right past him without bothering to see if he was hurt.
He was shoved and fell backwards

There were protesters rushing into the area...they had to confront them.....

No threat from a 70 year old

So, all 70 year olds can't be threatening? How stupid are you?

75 year old, all by himself, walking up to four burly cops in their 20s.

I can see why they were in fear

 

[rightwinger]

He did trip on his own. Watch the video and see where he was pushed and how many steps he took backwards before falling.

The shoving resulted in him falling and hitting his head.

You fucking pathetic bootlicker

That shove could have knocked him into the path of a freight train, but it didn't! Dumbass! There was no way the cop could have foreseen him busting his brain cage on the sidewalk.

If the cop couldn’t have foreseen hurting his head as a possibility of shoving him, he’s an idiot.

Old people fall down when shoved.

Cops don’t know this?

 

[Rambunctious]

They are wrong

The two cops were out of line

It was one cop and I'm sure he didn't think the guy would trip on that concrete ball...the other cop got on his phone and called an ambulance...and then the cops had to attend to the rioters rushing towards them....at least that's what I saw on the video...

They walked right past him without bothering to see if he was hurt.
He was shoved and fell backwards

There were protesters rushing into the area...they had to confront them.....

No threat from a 70 year old

So, all 70 year olds can't be threatening? How stupid are you?

75 year old, all by himself, walking up to four burly cops in their 20s.

I can see why they were in fear

This is why you don't want to attend riots......look at it as an informational video...a public service video on how not to get injured....