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I watched the videoI don't live in fantasy Island where the police can shit emt's immediately, and aid comes from lightning bolts from their asses................I see no intent of doing harm here.........Aid was rendered........medical personnel were called.The other police officer pointed to the one stopping at first and called it in on the radio for medical attention...........You guys HYPE EVERYTHING.That was a small push and the guy tripped .............the pavement caused the damage...........
Was not an intentional take down........incidental only.
We had a guy in the engine room who knocked knocked cold.......hit a steal deck with the back of his head falling down.......and didn't know his own name for hours..........was an asshole though............got what he deserved on that one..........not related to this old guy in the Op
Small push to a 75 year-old... and even if you want to die on the hill of that argument, they are REQUIRED to provide first aid to a citizen in medical distress.
Calling it in is NOT providing 1st aid... the guy was pooling blood coming out of his ears. Jesus. If that was your grandfather or father you sure as fuck wouldn't be so simple. No one stopped to check his pulse or to see if he was still breathing. The one officer that started to was immediately pulled away and did not try to contest.
And yet here you are hyping the dang thing.........My parents or grandparents, god rest their souls, wouldn't have been trying to impede the police from stopping riots........So your comparison is BS
I'm going to cue you in on a very poorly kept secret... Police officers are given 1st aid training, and in a lot of states if a person is trained in 1st aid and there is a medical emergency, they are legally obligated to provide it. Calling an EMT over the radio is NOT providing 1st aid, it is merely a step in doing so. You might want to educate yourself a bit before responding so you don't make yourself look foolish.
If you watch the video, an EMT was already there within seconds of the call being made. Conscience disregard of the facts is a libtard tactic. Are you sure you want to go there?
Sure do.............but you are always an ass........fitting symbol of the DNCAh, so you just assumed.Implied by your words.....................BAN THEM from being hired...........LOLWho said I hate the military?Typical HATE THE MILITARY BS from the left........expected and normalPart of the problem right now is to many ex military in the police. It's a totally different mind set, different training, different responses. There really isn't much overlap in skill sets. I personally think there should be limits or even outright bans on ex military hiring.One of the reasons I would like to see more former soldiers in positions of policing is I think they understand how to risk assess and use an appropriate response to the situation.
Show me where it says that in my post.
You know what they say about assuming, right?
Now apply that to the FBI dirtbags who are guilty as sin...........dirty cops.......Police cannot do their jobs without the goodwill of the public. When the public does not trust the police in their midst, the police become the enemy.
I saw the video.This is why you don't want to attend riots......look at it as an informational video...a public service video on how not to get injured....So, all 70 year olds can't be threatening? How stupid are you?No threat from a 70 year oldThere were protesters rushing into the area...they had to confront them.....It was one cop and I'm sure he didn't think the guy would trip on that concrete ball...the other cop got on his phone and called an ambulance...and then the cops had to attend to the rioters rushing towards them....at least that's what I saw on the video...They are wrong
The two cops were out of line
They walked right past him without bothering to see if he was hurt.
He was shoved and fell backwards
75 year old, all by himself, walking up to four burly cops in their 20s.
I can see why they were in fear
Sure do.............but you are always an ass........fitting symbol of the DNCAh, so you just assumed.Implied by your words.....................BAN THEM from being hired...........LOLWho said I hate the military?Typical HATE THE MILITARY BS from the left........expected and normalPart of the problem right now is to many ex military in the police. It's a totally different mind set, different training, different responses. There really isn't much overlap in skill sets. I personally think there should be limits or even outright bans on ex military hiring.One of the reasons I would like to see more former soldiers in positions of policing is I think they understand how to risk assess and use an appropriate response to the situation.
Show me where it says that in my post.
You know what they say about assuming, right?
No idea what you are babbling aboutNow apply that to the FBI dirtbags who are guilty as sin...........dirty cops.......Police cannot do their jobs without the goodwill of the public. When the public does not trust the police in their midst, the police become the enemy.
Oh........they were on your side protecting your criminals............so sorry.......that would fuck up your Narrative.
Well.....they should just ban all cops there.............city is better off without them.........lower the budget too............I saw the video.This is why you don't want to attend riots......look at it as an informational video...a public service video on how not to get injured....So, all 70 year olds can't be threatening? How stupid are you?No threat from a 70 year oldThere were protesters rushing into the area...they had to confront them.....It was one cop and I'm sure he didn't think the guy would trip on that concrete ball...the other cop got on his phone and called an ambulance...and then the cops had to attend to the rioters rushing towards them....at least that's what I saw on the video...They are wrong
The two cops were out of line
They walked right past him without bothering to see if he was hurt.
He was shoved and fell backwards
75 year old, all by himself, walking up to four burly cops in their 20s.
I can see why they were in fear
I saw a protest and not a riot. I saw an old man walking up to cops all by himself and speaking to them.
I saw cops shove him to the sidewalk and walk right past him as his head gushed blood on the sidewalk.
Sure do.............but you are always an ass........fitting symbol of the DNCAh, so you just assumed.Implied by your words.....................BAN THEM from being hired...........LOLWho said I hate the military?Typical HATE THE MILITARY BS from the left........expected and normalPart of the problem right now is to many ex military in the police. It's a totally different mind set, different training, different responses. There really isn't much overlap in skill sets. I personally think there should be limits or even outright bans on ex military hiring.One of the reasons I would like to see more former soldiers in positions of policing is I think they understand how to risk assess and use an appropriate response to the situation.
Show me where it says that in my post.
You know what they say about assuming, right?
It took you all day to come up with that weak assed comeback?
Go away and try again.
Of course you don't..........that would screw up your narrative.......No idea what you are babbling aboutNow apply that to the FBI dirtbags who are guilty as sin...........dirty cops.......Police cannot do their jobs without the goodwill of the public. When the public does not trust the police in their midst, the police become the enemy.
Oh........they were on your side protecting your criminals............so sorry.......that would fuck up your Narrative.
So, all 70 year olds can't be threatening? How stupid are you?No threat from a 70 year oldThere were protesters rushing into the area...they had to confront them.....It was one cop and I'm sure he didn't think the guy would trip on that concrete ball...the other cop got on his phone and called an ambulance...and then the cops had to attend to the rioters rushing towards them....at least that's what I saw on the video...They are wrong
The two cops were out of line
They walked right past him without bothering to see if he was hurt.
He was shoved and fell backwards
75 year old, all by himself, walking up to four burly cops in their 20s.
I can see why they were in fear
Sure do.............but you are always an ass........fitting symbol of the DNCAh, so you just assumed.Implied by your words.....................BAN THEM from being hired...........LOLWho said I hate the military?Typical HATE THE MILITARY BS from the left........expected and normalPart of the problem right now is to many ex military in the police. It's a totally different mind set, different training, different responses. There really isn't much overlap in skill sets. I personally think there should be limits or even outright bans on ex military hiring.One of the reasons I would like to see more former soldiers in positions of policing is I think they understand how to risk assess and use an appropriate response to the situation.
Show me where it says that in my post.
You know what they say about assuming, right?
It took you all day to come up with that weak assed comeback?
Go away and try again.
LOL
You must think people live here like you........LOL
I watched the videoI don't live in fantasy Island where the police can shit emt's immediately, and aid comes from lightning bolts from their asses................I see no intent of doing harm here.........Aid was rendered........medical personnel were called.The other police officer pointed to the one stopping at first and called it in on the radio for medical attention...........You guys HYPE EVERYTHING.That was a small push and the guy tripped .............the pavement caused the damage...........
Was not an intentional take down........incidental only.
We had a guy in the engine room who knocked knocked cold.......hit a steal deck with the back of his head falling down.......and didn't know his own name for hours..........was an asshole though............got what he deserved on that one..........not related to this old guy in the Op
Small push to a 75 year-old... and even if you want to die on the hill of that argument, they are REQUIRED to provide first aid to a citizen in medical distress.
Calling it in is NOT providing 1st aid... the guy was pooling blood coming out of his ears. Jesus. If that was your grandfather or father you sure as fuck wouldn't be so simple. No one stopped to check his pulse or to see if he was still breathing. The one officer that started to was immediately pulled away and did not try to contest.
And yet here you are hyping the dang thing.........My parents or grandparents, god rest their souls, wouldn't have been trying to impede the police from stopping riots........So your comparison is BS
I'm going to cue you in on a very poorly kept secret... Police officers are given 1st aid training, and in a lot of states if a person is trained in 1st aid and there is a medical emergency, they are legally obligated to provide it. Calling an EMT over the radio is NOT providing 1st aid, it is merely a step in doing so. You might want to educate yourself a bit before responding so you don't make yourself look foolish.
If you watch the video, an EMT was already there within seconds of the call being made. Conscience disregard of the facts is a libtard tactic. Are you sure you want to go there?
I saw four cops walk by an elderly man with his head gushing blood, including the cop who shoved him to the ground.
Lack of compassion in a society protesting cops who don’t seem to give a shit.
Sure do.............but you are always an ass........fitting symbol of the DNCAh, so you just assumed.Implied by your words.....................BAN THEM from being hired...........LOLWho said I hate the military?Typical HATE THE MILITARY BS from the left........expected and normalPart of the problem right now is to many ex military in the police. It's a totally different mind set, different training, different responses. There really isn't much overlap in skill sets. I personally think there should be limits or even outright bans on ex military hiring.One of the reasons I would like to see more former soldiers in positions of policing is I think they understand how to risk assess and use an appropriate response to the situation.
Show me where it says that in my post.
You know what they say about assuming, right?
It took you all day to come up with that weak assed comeback?
Go away and try again.
LOL
You must think people live here like you........LOL
I'm fully aware most of you conservative types do not live as well as I do.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
Sure do.............but you are always an ass........fitting symbol of the DNCAh, so you just assumed.Implied by your words.....................BAN THEM from being hired...........LOLWho said I hate the military?Typical HATE THE MILITARY BS from the left........expected and normalPart of the problem right now is to many ex military in the police. It's a totally different mind set, different training, different responses. There really isn't much overlap in skill sets. I personally think there should be limits or even outright bans on ex military hiring.One of the reasons I would like to see more former soldiers in positions of policing is I think they understand how to risk assess and use an appropriate response to the situation.
Show me where it says that in my post.
You know what they say about assuming, right?
It took you all day to come up with that weak assed comeback?
Go away and try again.
LOL
You must think people live here like you........LOL
I'm fully aware most of you conservative types do not live as well as I do.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
Oh ........so you have WHITE PRIVILEDGE..........You should immediately bow to the blacks and give them all your money then.........
Now........are you a LEGEND in your own mind........LOL
There was no riot. There was a handful of people on the sidewalk. No riot.This is why you don't want to attend riots......look at it as an informational video...a public service video on how not to get injured....So, all 70 year olds can't be threatening? How stupid are you?No threat from a 70 year oldThere were protesters rushing into the area...they had to confront them.....It was one cop and I'm sure he didn't think the guy would trip on that concrete ball...the other cop got on his phone and called an ambulance...and then the cops had to attend to the rioters rushing towards them....at least that's what I saw on the video...They are wrong
The two cops were out of line
They walked right past him without bothering to see if he was hurt.
He was shoved and fell backwards
75 year old, all by himself, walking up to four burly cops in their 20s.
I can see why they were in fear
Ummmm sorry but rushing towards cops in riot gear makes it a riot....not a peaceful protest......There was no riot. There was a handful of people on the sidewalk. No riot.
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.Ummmm sorry but rushing towards cops in riot gear makes it a riot....not a peaceful protest......There was no riot. There was a handful of people on the sidewalk. No riot.
Of course.....That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.Ummmm sorry but rushing towards cops in riot gear makes it a riot....not a peaceful protest......There was no riot. There was a handful of people on the sidewalk. No riot.
I think the mayor made a "politically correct" call on this one, and it was the wrong call. This well known activist in the community, regardless of his age, got in the cop's face while the cop was marching to clear the street. The other cop gave him a push out of the way. He didn't pepper spray him or taze him or smack him with his baton. I'm sorry the guy cracked his head on the sidewalk, but that happens sometimes when people fall. The cop directly behind them called an ambulance. Yes, it would have been a nice thing to do if one of them had stopped to see what he could do for the old guy 'til the medics arrived, but do the cops do that? I don't know. This wasn't patrolling the midway at the County Fair. They were apparently clearing a protest that had gotten out of hand.
It's the mayor who made the bad call because he has been meeting with protesters (a good thing) and trying to calm things down. Then an old guy gets hurt in the fray and it sounds good to call it police brutality. It's guff. The guy fell down and hurt his head. It's unfortunate but it wasn't intentional nor was it "undue" force. I don't blame the team for resigning. When you've doing your job and the boss undermines you, it's not worth risking your life for anymore.
If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.
"If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise."
What you obviously haven't seen in a while is your humanity. Be advised, you better go find it.
Police are there to serve and protect. Is there something overly complicated about "serve and protect"? They are entitled to using force insofar, and to the degree necessary, as required to protect goods higher than those they damage. Shoving the old fart within an inch of his life was disproportionate, brutal, and a textbook example of what is wrong with U.S. police. What is more, the unit then lied about the incident, which is even more of a telltale sign for what is wrong with policing. The two ghouls should be fired immediately, as should be those who lied about it, and they should be personally liable for all the costs emerging from their brutality. The unit that is refusing to do their assigned job should be given another chance resuming it, and otherwise also be dealt with like someone unwilling to do the job requested from him.
If you don't understand that (sadly, care4all also doesn't seem to care for all), there really is no way to help, unless, of course, you retrieve your misplaced humanity. You, and folks like you, who stand behind the police even when they are clearly in the wrong, are the support that enables the ghouls. They then sit on juries and fail to convict police murderers for reasons defying any and all efforts at understanding. That's bad enough. They are one of the main reasons why Floyd ended up dead, and for the outrage and the riots playing out on the streets right now. The outright Nazis on this thread, eager to have a police state, aren't even worth a mention.
I hate, really, hate smartphones. In many a way they are a symptom of what is wrong with this Me! Me! Me! Western world. There is just one redeeming quality about them: They serve to document police brutality, and police murders, in particular. From Scott, to Arbery, to Floyd to the old guy, and all too many before and since, police have a harder time to get away with their lies. That's undeniably, undoubtedly, unambiguously a good thing. All that's missing right now is folks finding their misplaced humanity and mete out punishment commensurate to the brutality meted out to perfectly non-threatening victims.
I'm touched that you care for my lost humanity. That must be why I've spent the last week arguing the BLM cause and the reason they're protesting--because I just have no compassion. I'd like to remind you, though, that cops are human too and they've got a tough job at any time. During riot detail, it's even harder. I don't know what they were doing except the news said they were "clearing the street." There must have been a reason for that. Could they have just walked around the guy? Would he have let them? What was he saying and how provoked was he? What did they say to him? We don't know. How would you propose they should have gotten the guy out of the way? Stopped for him until he decided to move?I think the mayor made a "politically correct" call on this one, and it was the wrong call. This well known activist in the community, regardless of his age, got in the cop's face while the cop was marching to clear the street. The other cop gave him a push out of the way. He didn't pepper spray him or taze him or smack him with his baton. I'm sorry the guy cracked his head on the sidewalk, but that happens sometimes when people fall. The cop directly behind them called an ambulance. Yes, it would have been a nice thing to do if one of them had stopped to see what he could do for the old guy 'til the medics arrived, but do the cops do that? I don't know. This wasn't patrolling the midway at the County Fair. They were apparently clearing a protest that had gotten out of hand.
It's the mayor who made the bad call because he has been meeting with protesters (a good thing) and trying to calm things down. Then an old guy gets hurt in the fray and it sounds good to call it police brutality. It's guff. The guy fell down and hurt his head. It's unfortunate but it wasn't intentional nor was it "undue" force. I don't blame the team for resigning. When you've doing your job and the boss undermines you, it's not worth risking your life for anymore.
If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise.
"If there's something I haven't seen that I should know, please advise."
What you obviously haven't seen in a while is your humanity. Be advised, you better go find it.
Police are there to serve and protect. Is there something overly complicated about "serve and protect"? They are entitled to using force insofar, and to the degree necessary, as required to protect goods higher than those they damage. Shoving the old fart within an inch of his life was disproportionate, brutal, and a textbook example of what is wrong with U.S. police. What is more, the unit then lied about the incident, which is even more of a telltale sign for what is wrong with policing. The two ghouls should be fired immediately, as should be those who lied about it, and they should be personally liable for all the costs emerging from their brutality. The unit that is refusing to do their assigned job should be given another chance resuming it, and otherwise also be dealt with like someone unwilling to do the job requested from him.
If you don't understand that (sadly, care4all also doesn't seem to care for all), there really is no way to help, unless, of course, you retrieve your misplaced humanity. You, and folks like you, who stand behind the police even when they are clearly in the wrong, are the support that enables the ghouls. They then sit on juries and fail to convict police murderers for reasons defying any and all efforts at understanding. That's bad enough. They are one of the main reasons why Floyd ended up dead, and for the outrage and the riots playing out on the streets right now. The outright Nazis on this thread, eager to have a police state, aren't even worth a mention.
I hate, really, hate smartphones. In many a way they are a symptom of what is wrong with this Me! Me! Me! Western world. There is just one redeeming quality about them: They serve to document police brutality, and police murders, in particular. From Scott, to Arbery, to Floyd to the old guy, and all too many before and since, police have a harder time to get away with their lies. That's undeniably, undoubtedly, unambiguously a good thing. All that's missing right now is folks finding their misplaced humanity and mete out punishment commensurate to the brutality meted out to perfectly non-threatening victims.
