50% Of Americans Are Parasites AND They VOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rdean]

50% Of Americans Are Parasites AND They VOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans are still Americans. You can't stop them from voting.

 

[Contumacious]

sure...except for the amendments you don't like.

but how will you support it when you don't know how it's interpreted?

and still waiting for a credible link to prove the assertion in the O/P.

HUH?

The 16th was never ratified

and the 17th

It was the election of U.S. senators by the state legislatures that benefited the "whole nation" by placing an important restraint on the powers of the central government. The whole purpose of the Constitution, Madison wrote in Federalist #10, was to restrain "the violence of faction," and this was best achieved by limiting the powers of the central state in this and numerous other ways.

 

[PixieStix]

The Poll Tax must be restored or this nation is going down as a lead balloon.In essence the voting booth is DIRECTLY connected to our ATM's'.


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The way it was originally set up -at the federal level anyways- was that only landowners got to vote for federal office holders and the Senate was made up of appointees of the state legislatures.

If you wanted a say in the political world, you had to have some -dare I say- "skin in the game".

Since the overturning of that provision and the 17th Amendment, the federal gubmint has pretty much operated as tripartite mob rule.

Exactly

 

[HUGGY]

50% Of Americans Are Parasites AND They VOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans are still Americans. You can't stop them from voting.

Neo cons aren't ...yes we can....seek them out...file change of address for them

Pop holes in thier tires on election day.

 

[Contumacious]

The Poll Tax must be restored or this nation is going down as a lead balloon.In essence the voting booth is DIRECTLY connected to our ATM's'.


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How very Thatcher-esque of you. Anything to disenfranchise the poor, right?

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[Oddball]

Parasites, indeed...


Estimated value of assets the IRS believes to be held in offshore tax havens, countries with nominal taxes and minimal reporting requirements: $5 trillion

Number of countries that aggressively market themselves as tax havens: at least 40

Percent of the biggest U.S. corporations that utilize tax havens: 80

Number of U.S. companies that maintain post office boxes in one 5-story building in the Cayman Islands, a notorious tax haven: over 18,000

Number of tax havens used by Charlotte, N.C.-based Bank of America: 115

Number of Bank of America tax havens in the Cayman Islands: 59

Estimated annual cost of offshore tax havens to U.S. taxpayers: $100 billion

Number of people working in Iraq for Houston-based KBR who were listed as employees of two shell companies that exist only as computer files in a Cayman Islands office: 21,000

Under the arrangement, which KBR admits it created to avoid payroll taxes, amount in unemployment assistance those employees are entitled to collect should they lose their jobs: $0

Proportion of U.S. corporations that paid no income taxes between 1998 and 2005, due largely to the use of offshore tax havens and other tax dodges: 2/3

Estimated amount of money that would be generated for the Treasury if the Stop Tax Haven Abuse Act were approved by Congress: $100 billion

http://www.uspirg.org/uploads/1J/pX/1JpX8jvsPAW7OKjq4p5diQ/USP-taxshellgamefinal-updateFall09.pdf

Top Iraq contractor skirts US taxes offshore - The Boston Globe

Institute for Policy Studies: Reports

So, some people are better than others at fending off the parasites.

Your point is?

BTW...Big time libs, like the Kennedys and Rockefellers, use offshore tax havens, too.

 

[Contumacious]

What happens every year during tax season? Companies that do tax returns tell people you can get your refund here!!! Most people don't make enough to owe a ton in taxes. And the rich hide their money so they don't have to pay.

So honestly what are people complaining about again? That you might not get a refund of the money that you owe the government to provide you roads to get to work, for your kids to get an education. I mean this is socialism people. No education for America, its socialism!!!

Although a case can be made that roads can be privately financed and managed , the issues in this thread are DC's determination to transfer wealth, get itself involved in the economy and health care.


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[Contumacious]

The Premise

The authority of the federal government to collect its income tax depends upon the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, which was allegedly ratified in 1913. After a year of extensive research, Bill Benson discovered that the 16th Amendment was not ratified by the required 3/4 of the states, but nevertheless Secretary of State Philander Knox fraudulently announced ratification


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I, Contumacious Freeman , do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.


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So I guess "defend the constitution" means defend those articles that you believe in and accept bizarre conspiracy theories so you don't have to defend the articles you don't.

Mr. Bill Benson used to work for the Illinois Department Of Revenue - all the documents have been VERIFIED by the Secretary Of State of each of the states. But his material constitutes a bizarre conspiracy theory because ........


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[Ringel05]

Angry 50% Of Americans Are Parasites AND They VOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The proposed tax increases that the White House and Congress are proposing will probably pass. According to the Washington, D.C.-based Tax Foundation, during 2006, roughly 43.4 million tax returns, representing 91 million individuals, had no federal tax liability. That's out of a total of 136 million federal tax returns. Adding to this figure are 15 million households and individuals who file no tax return at all. Roughly 121 million Americans -- or 41 percent of the U.S. population -- are completely outside the federal income tax system

How about posting a complete breakdown (demographics) of these numbers to derive the actual percentage of those who don't but should pay(under the current tax laws). I'm willing to bet it'll be less then half the 41% you listed.

 

[HUGGY]

The Poll Tax must be restored or this nation is going down as a lead balloon.In essence the voting booth is DIRECTLY connected to our ATM's'.


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How very Thatcher-esque of you. Anything to disenfranchise the poor, right?

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Looks like the line at MacDonalds. What troup of pathetic pasty white ignorant fat *****. The good news is they will all have heart trouble and diabetes. I can wait em out.

 

[Contumacious]

I wonder what percentage of these supposed 43% of non-tax payers consistently vote republican?

Why is that relevant?

Parasites are found in BOTH parties.

Although the Republican parasites tend to be more like KBR, Halliburton, AIG, .......


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[Toro]

Mr. Bill Benson used to work for the Illinois Department Of Revenue - all the documents have been VERIFIED by the Secretary Of State of each of the states. But his material constitutes a bizarre conspiracy theory because ........


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Because the courts said so.

This rumor has been on the Internet for quite some time, especially in conspiracy circles. The whole thing can be largely attributed to William J. Benson and his 1985 book "The Law That Never Was", where he claims that the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified. In December of 2007 Benson's "Defense Reliance Package" containing his argument that it was never ratified was offered for sale on the Internet. A federal court ruled it to be a "fraud perpetrated by Benson [that had] caused needless confusion and a waste of the customers' and the IRS' time and resources."[52] Also stated by the court "Benson has failed to point to evidence that would create a genuinely disputed fact regarding whether the Sixteenth Amendment was properly ratified or whether United States Citizens are legally obligated to pay federal taxes."[53]

In all actuality, it was ratified by 36 states, and one more a little later on. This is more than enough for the 3/4ths majority required to ratify the amendment[54]. That is, there were 48 states and 37 of them is equal to just over 77%, more than the 75% required to be ratified.

Zeitgeist, the movie Debunked - Part Three - Zeitgeist Exposed - Conspiracy Science - Conspiracies and Myths Refuted, Debunked, and Explained

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I wonder what percentage of these supposed 43% of non-tax payers consistently vote republican?

Why is that relevant?

Parasites are found in BOTH parties.

Although the Republican parasites are more like KBR, Halliburton, AIG, .......


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I'm just curious as to how many people have been brainwashed into thinking that Democrats are going to raise their taxes, so they vote republican, even though they have no tax liability....

 

[Contumacious]

Contumacious, we are all waiting for your evidence, not just your assertions.

May I suggest a trick...........OPEN YOUR ******* EYES.......


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[Contumacious]

"The proposed tax increases that the White House and Congress are proposing will probably pass. According to the Washington, D.C.-based Tax Foundation, during 2006, roughly 43.4 million tax returns, representing 91 million individuals, had no federal tax liability. That's out of a total of 136 million federal tax returns. Adding to this figure are 15 million households and individuals who file no tax return at all. Roughly 121 million Americans -- or 41 percent of the U.S. population -- are completely outside the federal income tax system. These people represent a natural constituency for big-spending politicians. Since they have no federal income tax obligation, what do they care about higher taxes or tax cuts?"

Don't you CON$ ever get tired of lying?????

According to the CBO publication "Effective Fed Tax Rates pg 18 Table 2: in 2006 the bottom 40% had a 6.3% Federal Tax Liability.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/57xx/doc5746/08-13-EffectiveFedTaxRates.pdf

Obviously you are not debating Williams' lies exposed by the CBO numbers, which is precisely why Williams gave no link to HIS phony numbers,

Number of Americans Paying Zero Federal Income Tax Grows to 43.4 Million.

Just re-posting the same unsourced tax foundation lie does not change the fact that the CBO numbers belie your CON$ervative claims.

Each Quintile represents about 22 million tax returns and according to my linked CBO report: the lowest Quintile paid 1.1% and the second Quintile paid 5.2% in Fed tax liabilities so the claim that 43.4 million tax returns had "NO Fed tax liabilities" is obviously a lie and that explains why your source does not link to any supporting data.

You have to copy and paste the whole link through to the .pdf part to download the pdf, USMB butchered the link.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/57xx/doc5746/08-13-EffectiveFedTaxRates.pdf

Identify by page and paragraph in your CBO the location where I can find data specifically contradicting Prof Williams' assertions

 

[Contumacious]

oh please! you are making too much sense!

If you check Table 2 of their OWN tax foundation link you see that the top states for the HIGHEST non-tax paying filers are mostly the Commie Red States.
Number of Americans Paying Zero Federal Income Tax Grows to 43.4 Million.

Want to know the funny thing about your 43 million ... anyone earning less than the "poverty" level in their city of residence pays no income tax. So you are all for taxing the poor, glad you finally admitted that.

When the 1st income tax was ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL the SCOTUS stated that we are all Americans so the tax rates should be uniformed not graduated.


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[Contumacious]

[If you want the lower classes to pay more Federal Taxes, work toward finding a way to get them paid more money..

Not gonna happen, would be prudent .

The welfare state needs the poor as a pretext to make incursions into the economy.


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[Contumacious]

Parasites, indeed...


Estimated value of assets the IRS believes to be held in offshore tax havens, countries with nominal taxes and minimal reporting requirements: $5 trillion

We have a criminal government hence Americans --the Producers ---must protect their property they best way they can.


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[Contumacious]

The Poll Tax must be restored or this nation is going down as a lead balloon.In essence the voting booth is DIRECTLY connected to our ATM's'.


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Thanks for playing You are an idiot.

No, thank you for being a **** tard.


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[Contumacious]

How very Thatcher-esque of you. Anything to disenfranchise the poor, right?

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Looks like the line at MacDonalds. What troup of pathetic pasty white ignorant fat *****. The good news is they will all have heart trouble and diabetes. I can wait em out.

Don't worry about it they have health insurance.

You don't.


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