5 Common Myths about "The Settlements".

[montelatici]

I have two questions, maybe somebody can answer, about Samaria and Judea.


How did the Palestinians acquire those territories, and when did that happen?

In 1924 the Palestinians became the legal citizens of Palestine. This was according the rule of state succession (international law) and reiterated by the Treaty of Lausanne. This was followed up by the Palestinian Citizenship Order of 1925.

that would be false.

but thanks for playing.

study history, jew-hater

You are writing faslehoods. But thanks for providing proof of your ignorance.

Do some research before writing nonsense, Christian-hater.



31 December 1925

REPORT
BY HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
TO THE COUNCIL OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS
ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF
PALESTINE AND TRANSJORDAN
FOR THE YEAR
1925

3. Q. What measures have been taken to bring the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will safeguard the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion? What are the effects of these measures?

A. The Palestinian Citizenship Order in Council which was made in August, 1925, provides for the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by persons habitually resident in the country who were Ottoman subjects, and persons who were foreign subjects and take up permanent residence.

Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations (31 December 1925)

 

[P F Tinmore]

theliq, et al,

Yes, yes. Describe me however you will.

No wonder you are Confused,considering you have been living a LIE,you see Rocco,with respect,when aggressively challenged,you crumble....Your Israel was not built on sand.....BUT ON THE BLOODY BODIES OF INNOCENT PALESTINIAN,Men,Women,Children and Babies......Think about that for a few seconds,that's all it takes.As I say your Myopic Monologues are just Dire and Disgraceful...steven

(COMMENT)

This is a very practical case study. We have two entities.

• One a thriving and development nation that makes contributions to humanity an the international community.
• One a dysfunctional political formation in total disorder, disarray and ill repair; with a very creepy development (almost retrograde motion).

The both started in the, after the Armistice Agreements, in about the same condition. The Arabs went one way, the Israelis went another.

Which of the two tracks were more beneficial?
Why would the Arab Palestinians want to replace a thriving nation and government --- with an --- unproductive nation and failing government?

Is there a logical reason why the Arab Palestinian would rather live the way that they do rather than pitch-in and build a new nation? Now, it appears, that they have past the point of no return. And why, would the Arab Palestinian want to drag down a productive nation with it?

Which is the greater danger to society?

• The nation that promotes human development.
• The nation that does nothing but talk about how to contiue conflict, death and destruction.

Most Respectfully,
R

Oh jeeze, Rocco's usual slime the Palestinians thread.

Why don't the Palestinians build their nation? Stupid question.



Israeli assholes bomb or bulldoze Palestinian infrastructure.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, jillian, elektra, P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a cool fallacy. They make it appear that they addressed the debate, when in reality they did not.

I have two questions, maybe somebody can answer, about Samaria and Judea.


How did the Palestinians acquire those territories, and when did that happen?

In 1924 the Palestinians became the legal citizens of Palestine. This was according the rule of state succession (international law) and reiterated by the Treaty of Lausanne. This was followed up by the Palestinian Citizenship Order of 1925.

that would be false.
but thanks for playing.
study history, jew-hater

You are writing faslehoods. But thanks for providing proof of your ignorance.
Do some research before writing nonsense, Christian-hater.

31 December 1925

REPORT
BY HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
TO THE COUNCIL OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS
ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF
PALESTINE AND TRANSJORDAN
FOR THE YEAR
1925

3. Q. What measures have been taken to bring the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will safeguard the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion? What are the effects of these measures?

A. The Palestinian Citizenship Order in Council which was made in August, 1925, provides for the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by persons habitually resident in the country who were Ottoman subjects, and persons who were foreign subjects and take up permanent residence.

Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations (31 December 1925)

(COMMENT)

Becoming a citizen of the Government of Palestine (the territory to which the Mandate applied) has nothing whatsoever to do with state succession. The Treaty of Lausanne records the renouncement of Title and Rights to the Allied Powers. It provided for the elimination of "stateless people."

The International Law of Succession deals with topicwithin three main headings, as follows:

(a) Succession in respect of treaties;
(b) Succession in respect of rights and duties resulting from sources other than treaties;
(c) Succession in respect of membership of international organizations.
​

It should be understood that the expression or phrase "succession of States" should denote simply the fact of the replacement of one State by another, thus excluding all questions of rights and obligations as a legal incident of that change the reality. There is a relationship between the "succession" in respect to treaties and the general law of treaties. While it may not sit right with the Arab Palestinian that denounces any interpretative fact --- the reality is "the Vienna Convention should be taken as an essential framework of the law relating to succession of States in respect of treaties." You will find this quote on page 6, Yearbook of the International Law Commission, 1974, vol. n, Part .One Subsection C - Paragraph 19 Concept of Succession of States.

Of course, much of what we are discussing here happened before this line of wisdom, so it is important to know that the about the time of the 1967 Six Day War, the discussion was along these lines: International Law Commission on the work of its nineteenth session, 8 May -14 July 1967, Page 368, Chapter III, Section A. ORGANIZATION OF FUTURE WORK. Paragraph 1, Succession of States and Governments.

It has been my experience that Arab Palestinians pay little attention to laws and conventions that do not support their position. You will notice that the Permanent Court of Justice stays will away from this issue, and the Judicial System is now in a quandary.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, jillian, elektra, P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a cool fallacy. They make it appear that they addressed the debate, when in reality they did not.

I have two questions, maybe somebody can answer, about Samaria and Judea.


How did the Palestinians acquire those territories, and when did that happen?

In 1924 the Palestinians became the legal citizens of Palestine. This was according the rule of state succession (international law) and reiterated by the Treaty of Lausanne. This was followed up by the Palestinian Citizenship Order of 1925.

that would be false.
but thanks for playing.
study history, jew-hater

You are writing faslehoods. But thanks for providing proof of your ignorance.
Do some research before writing nonsense, Christian-hater.

31 December 1925

REPORT
BY HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
TO THE COUNCIL OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS
ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF
PALESTINE AND TRANSJORDAN
FOR THE YEAR
1925

3. Q. What measures have been taken to bring the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will safeguard the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion? What are the effects of these measures?

A. The Palestinian Citizenship Order in Council which was made in August, 1925, provides for the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by persons habitually resident in the country who were Ottoman subjects, and persons who were foreign subjects and take up permanent residence.

Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations (31 December 1925)

(COMMENT)

Becoming a citizen of the Government of Palestine (the territory to which the Mandate applied) has nothing whatsoever to do with state succession. The Treaty of Lausanne records the renouncement of Title and Rights to the Allied Powers. It provided for the elimination of "stateless people."

The International Law of Succession deals with topicwithin three main headings, as follows:

(a) Succession in respect of treaties;
(b) Succession in respect of rights and duties resulting from sources other than treaties;
(c) Succession in respect of membership of international organizations.
​

It should be understood that the expression or phrase "succession of States" should denote simply the fact of the replacement of one State by another, thus excluding all questions of rights and obligations as a legal incident of that change the reality. There is a relationship between the "succession" in respect to treaties and the general law of treaties. While it may not sit right with the Arab Palestinian that denounces any interpretative fact --- the reality is "the Vienna Convention should be taken as an essential framework of the law relating to succession of States in respect of treaties." You will find this quote on page 6, Yearbook of the International Law Commission, 1974, vol. n, Part .One Subsection C - Paragraph 19 Concept of Succession of States.

Of course, much of what we are discussing here happened before this line of wisdom, so it is important to know that the about the time of the 1967 Six Day War, the discussion was along these lines: International Law Commission on the work of its nineteenth session, 8 May -14 July 1967, Page 368, Chapter III, Section A. ORGANIZATION OF FUTURE WORK. Paragraph 1, Succession of States and Governments.

It has been my experience that Arab Palestinians pay little attention to laws and conventions that do not support their position. You will notice that the Permanent Court of Justice stays will away from this issue, and the Judicial System is now in a quandary.

Most Respectfully,
R

How can we make it any more clear to the rambling bullshitter?

31 December 1925

REPORT
BY HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
TO THE COUNCIL OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS
ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF
PALESTINE AND TRANSJORDAN
FOR THE YEAR
1925


The Palestinian Citizenship Order in Council which was made in August, 1925, provides for the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by persons habitually resident in the country who were Ottoman subjects, and persons who were foreign subjects and take up permanent residence.

Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations (31 December 1925)

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I do not disagree with the issue of citizenship.

montelatici, jillian, elektra, P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a cool fallacy. They make it appear that they addressed the debate, when in reality they did not.

I have two questions, maybe somebody can answer, about Samaria and Judea.


How did the Palestinians acquire those territories, and when did that happen?

In 1924 the Palestinians became the legal citizens of Palestine. This was according the rule of state succession (international law) and reiterated by the Treaty of Lausanne. This was followed up by the Palestinian Citizenship Order of 1925.

that would be false.
but thanks for playing.
study history, jew-hater

You are writing faslehoods. But thanks for providing proof of your ignorance.
Do some research before writing nonsense, Christian-hater.

31 December 1925

REPORT
BY HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
TO THE COUNCIL OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS
ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF
PALESTINE AND TRANSJORDAN
FOR THE YEAR
1925

3. Q. What measures have been taken to bring the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will safeguard the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion? What are the effects of these measures?

A. The Palestinian Citizenship Order in Council which was made in August, 1925, provides for the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by persons habitually resident in the country who were Ottoman subjects, and persons who were foreign subjects and take up permanent residence.

Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations (31 December 1925)

(COMMENT)

Becoming a citizen of the Government of Palestine (the territory to which the Mandate applied) has nothing whatsoever to do with state succession. The Treaty of Lausanne records the renouncement of Title and Rights to the Allied Powers. It provided for the elimination of "stateless people."

The International Law of Succession deals with topicwithin three main headings, as follows:

(a) Succession in respect of treaties;
(b) Succession in respect of rights and duties resulting from sources other than treaties;
(c) Succession in respect of membership of international organizations.
​

It should be understood that the expression or phrase "succession of States" should denote simply the fact of the replacement of one State by another, thus excluding all questions of rights and obligations as a legal incident of that change the reality. There is a relationship between the "succession" in respect to treaties and the general law of treaties. While it may not sit right with the Arab Palestinian that denounces any interpretative fact --- the reality is "the Vienna Convention should be taken as an essential framework of the law relating to succession of States in respect of treaties." You will find this quote on page 6, Yearbook of the International Law Commission, 1974, vol. n, Part .One Subsection C - Paragraph 19 Concept of Succession of States.

Of course, much of what we are discussing here happened before this line of wisdom, so it is important to know that the about the time of the 1967 Six Day War, the discussion was along these lines: International Law Commission on the work of its nineteenth session, 8 May -14 July 1967, Page 368, Chapter III, Section A. ORGANIZATION OF FUTURE WORK. Paragraph 1, Succession of States and Governments.

It has been my experience that Arab Palestinians pay little attention to laws and conventions that do not support their position. You will notice that the Permanent Court of Justice stays will away from this issue, and the Judicial System is now in a quandary.

Most Respectfully,
R

How can we make it any more clear to the rambling bullshitter?

31 December 1925

REPORT
BY HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
TO THE COUNCIL OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS
ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF
PALESTINE AND TRANSJORDAN
FOR THE YEAR
1925


The Palestinian Citizenship Order in Council which was made in August, 1925, provides for the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by persons habitually resident in the country who were Ottoman subjects, and persons who were foreign subjects and take up permanent residence.

Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations (31 December 1925)

(COMMENT)

The implementation of the Treaty (Nationality Article 30) or the Implementation of citizenship in any of the League or Mandate directives, does not change anything; certainly not the Citizenship for the Jewish Immigrant and certainly does not effect sovereignty.

So what is it you are driving at by answering a sovereignty issue with a nationality answer?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[theliq]

theliq, et al,

Yes, yes. Describe me however you will.

No wonder you are Confused,considering you have been living a LIE,you see Rocco,with respect,when aggressively challenged,you crumble....Your Israel was not built on sand.....BUT ON THE BLOODY BODIES OF INNOCENT PALESTINIAN,Men,Women,Children and Babies......Think about that for a few seconds,that's all it takes.As I say your Myopic Monologues are just Dire and Disgraceful...steven

(COMMENT)

This is a very practical case study. We have two entities.

• One a thriving and development nation that makes contributions to humanity an the international community.
• One a dysfunctional political formation in total disorder, disarray and ill repair; with a very creepy development (almost retrograde motion).

The both started in the, after the Armistice Agreements, in about the same condition. The Arabs went one way, the Israelis went another.

Which of the two tracks were more beneficial?
Why would the Arab Palestinians want to replace a thriving nation and government --- with an --- unproductive nation and failing government?

Is there a logical reason why the Arab Palestinian would rather live the way that they do rather than pitch-in and build a new nation? Now, it appears, that they have past the point of no return. And why, would the Arab Palestinian want to drag down a productive nation with it?

Which is the greater danger to society?

• The nation that promotes human development.
• The nation that does nothing but talk about how to contiue conflict, death and destruction.

Most Respectfully,
R

The IDIOCY of your post defies belief.....Israel has received Trillions of DOLLARS,the Palestinians virtually nothing....the Israelis have Slaughtered 15 times more Palestinians than the other way round,Denied the Palestinians any thing.

I have opened you up like a tin of Sardines cleverly.....and what have we found....A NARROW MINDED,MYOPIC individual who for too long gave us a Zionist Snow Job....More fool me.....That won't happen again...You are a proven Liar and deceitful to the worst degree...theliquidator speaker of the truth and fact...please stop replying to my posts because you are a Bore.

 

[theliq]

Israel is only able to exist through funding by the United States, Europe (mostly Germany) and financial contributions of world Jewry which represents about 10 billion USD alone per year, see: 26 Billion Bucks: The Jewish Charity Industry Uncovered).

Israel receives financial gifts annually roughly 5 times the GDP of Palestine. How can it not be successful.

It would be a lot more than 5 Times Monte,your exposae 26 Billion Bucks,would be the tip of the iceberg,Zionists are very cunning when dealing with money and not paying tax,they thrive in dubious low or no tax countries like the Caymans.....

 

[RoccoR]

theliq, et al,

Oh, for Heaven's sake.

theliq, et al,

Yes, yes. Describe me however you will.

No wonder you are Confused,considering you have been living a LIE,you see Rocco,with respect,when aggressively challenged,you crumble....Your Israel was not built on sand.....BUT ON THE BLOODY BODIES OF INNOCENT PALESTINIAN,Men,Women,Children and Babies......Think about that for a few seconds,that's all it takes.As I say your Myopic Monologues are just Dire and Disgraceful...steven

(COMMENT)

This is a very practical case study. We have two entities.

• One a thriving and development nation that makes contributions to humanity an the international community.
• One a dysfunctional political formation in total disorder, disarray and ill repair; with a very creepy development (almost retrograde motion).

The both started in the, after the Armistice Agreements, in about the same condition. The Arabs went one way, the Israelis went another.

Which of the two tracks were more beneficial?
Why would the Arab Palestinians want to replace a thriving nation and government --- with an --- unproductive nation and failing government?

Is there a logical reason why the Arab Palestinian would rather live the way that they do rather than pitch-in and build a new nation? Now, it appears, that they have past the point of no return. And why, would the Arab Palestinian want to drag down a productive nation with it?

Which is the greater danger to society?

• The nation that promotes human development.
• The nation that does nothing but talk about how to contiue conflict, death and destruction.

Most Respectfully,
R

The IDIOCY of your post defies belief.....Israel has received Trillions of DOLLARS,the Palestinians virtually nothing....the Israelis have Slaughtered 15 times more Palestinians than the other way round,Denied the Palestinians any thing.

I have opened you up like a tin of Sardines cleverly.....and what have we found....A NARROW MINDED,MYOPIC individual who for too long gave us a Zionist Snow Job....More fool me.....That won't happen again...You are a proven Liar and deceitful to the worst degree...theliquidator speaker of the truth and fact...please stop replying to my posts because you are a Bore.

(COMMENT)

To here you tell it, the entire world is against the US and Israel because we are anti-Radical Islamic Terrorism and opposed to the further expansion of the Jihadist, Deadly Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgent, Radicalized Islamist, and Asymmetric Fighters of Arab Palestine.

• Why is it then that the US is always giving donor dollars to the Ramallah Government (such that it is)?
• Why is it that Arab Palestinians cannot raise the same level of funding from the entire rest of the world?

No, I think it is time you examine the truth. You may call me all the names in the world, but the reality is staring you in the face.

At your wish, I will no longer engage you.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why is it then that the US is always giving donor dollars to the Ramallah Government (such that it is)?

For someone who pretends to be knowledgeable, you surely ask some stupid questions.

Palestinian Authority Budget 28% for Security Forces - Funded by US

Why is it that Arab Palestinians cannot raise the same level of funding from the entire rest of the world?

Because it doesn't go to help the Palestinians.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

 

[P F Tinmore]

we are anti-Radical Islamic Terrorism

Ooooo, terrorism

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I am talking about "Donor Dollars" and "not" --- part of the Oslo Accords, to pay for the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) recruitment and training programs for police forces with paramilitary capabilities (AKA: European style Gendarmes). The Security Assistance Program is an entirely separate funding stream.

Why is it then that the US is always giving donor dollars to the Ramallah Government (such that it is)?

For someone who pretends to be knowledgeable, you surely ask some stupid questions.

Palestinian Authority Budget 28% for Security Forces - Funded by US

Why is it that Arab Palestinians cannot raise the same level of funding from the entire rest of the world?

Because it doesn't go to help the Palestinians.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

No single government contributes more (as a donor nation) to the Arab Palestinians than the US; usually by a factor of three:.

Repaired Link Contribution data as of 31 December 2015. All Governments.
​

Additionally, there is another set of funding streams for the Arab Palestinians. List of additional donors financing participation of indigenous participants to the Working Group on Indigenous Populations and Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues... This does not include the Grant awards:
• Grant cycles for 2016-2017

If you examine the entire list of list of Government and EU Pledges to the UNRWA, you will find that the entire Arab League donated about one-third of the amount the US donated (based on 2015 numbers).

NOW, there is a reason that the entire resources of the Arab League does not match The Great Satan; not that I know why it is. But maybe the powerful angelic creature of the west is not so evil after all.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I am talking about "Donor Dollars" and "not" --- part of the Oslo Accords, to pay for the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) recruitment and training programs for police forces with paramilitary capabilities (AKA: European style Gendarmes). The Security Assistance Program is an entirely separate funding stream.

Why is it then that the US is always giving donor dollars to the Ramallah Government (such that it is)?

For someone who pretends to be knowledgeable, you surely ask some stupid questions.

Palestinian Authority Budget 28% for Security Forces - Funded by US

Why is it that Arab Palestinians cannot raise the same level of funding from the entire rest of the world?

Because it doesn't go to help the Palestinians.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

No single government contributes more (as a donor nation) to the Arab Palestinians than the US; usually by a factor of three:.

View attachment 110647
Repaired Link Contribution data as of 31 December 2015. All Governments.
​

Additionally, there is another set of funding streams for the Arab Palestinians. List of additional donors financing participation of indigenous participants to the Working Group on Indigenous Populations and Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues... This does not include the Grant awards:
• Grant cycles for 2016-2017

If you examine the entire list of list of Government and EU Pledges to the UNRWA, you will find that the entire Arab League donated about one-third of the amount the US donated (based on 2015 numbers).

NOW, there is a reason that the entire resources of the Arab League does not match The Great Satan; not that I know why it is. But maybe the powerful angelic creature of the west is not so evil after all.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but still nothing goes to economic development. Israel does not allow that.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Odd that you say that.

we are anti-Radical Islamic Terrorism

Ooooo, terrorism

(COMMENT)

Yes, funny you should mention that.

Arab League States Sign Treaty to Combat Terrorism
April 23, 1998| | JOHN DANISZEWSKI | Los Angeles TIMES STAFF WRITER

CAIRO — The 22 members of the Arab League committed themselves Wednesday to fighting terrorism, by signing an accord designed to ensure that their governments will not tolerate or give support to groups or individuals mounting terrorist attacks in other Arab countries.

"This treaty will allow Arab countries to shatter the networks of terrorism . . . especially the networks of funding and support," said Algerian Justice Minister Mohammed Adami, whose nation has been the worst-hit in the region by terrorist violence.

Egyptian Interior Minister Habib Adli, who said terrorism in the region "stops the wheels of growth and development," observed, "We are facing dangers that cannot be ignored."

The 42-point treaty, which will take effect one month after it has been formally ratified by at least seven of the signing nations, calls on Arab states to refrain from giving training, sanctuary or financial or military aid to groups that mount attacks against other Arab countries. It requires participants to exchange information about terrorist groups and to extradite suspects or individuals convicted in terrorist crimes.
​

Yes, I've looked at the perpetual violence endorsed and encouraged by the Arab Palestinian Leadership; and the general public that give that leadership legitimacy. "Terrorism" is just not strong enough to describe the heinous behaviors.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I am talking about "Donor Dollars" and "not" --- part of the Oslo Accords, to pay for the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) recruitment and training programs for police forces with paramilitary capabilities (AKA: European style Gendarmes). The Security Assistance Program is an entirely separate funding stream.

Why is it then that the US is always giving donor dollars to the Ramallah Government (such that it is)?

For someone who pretends to be knowledgeable, you surely ask some stupid questions.

Palestinian Authority Budget 28% for Security Forces - Funded by US

Why is it that Arab Palestinians cannot raise the same level of funding from the entire rest of the world?

Because it doesn't go to help the Palestinians.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

No single government contributes more (as a donor nation) to the Arab Palestinians than the US; usually by a factor of three:.

View attachment 110647
Repaired Link Contribution data as of 31 December 2015. All Governments.
​

Additionally, there is another set of funding streams for the Arab Palestinians. List of additional donors financing participation of indigenous participants to the Working Group on Indigenous Populations and Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues... This does not include the Grant awards:
• Grant cycles for 2016-2017

If you examine the entire list of list of Government and EU Pledges to the UNRWA, you will find that the entire Arab League donated about one-third of the amount the US donated (based on 2015 numbers).

NOW, there is a reason that the entire resources of the Arab League does not match The Great Satan; not that I know why it is. But maybe the powerful angelic creature of the west is not so evil after all.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but still nothing goes to economic development. Israel does not allow that.

calls on Arab states to refrain from giving training, sanctuary or financial or military aid to groups that mount attacks against other Arab countries.

So, What Arab countries are Palestinians attacking?

More irrelevance from Rocco.

 

[Shusha]

According to Arabs, terrorism isn't terrorism if its conducted against non-Arabs. Then its just "armed struggle".

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Arab Palestinian is always using the excuse that (say you say) : "nothing goes to economic development. Israel does not allow that."

That excuse only passes the smell test in Area "C" where Israel has full jurisdiction by agreement with the Palestinians.

Is it possible for you to give an example of one of there restrictions on infrastructure development in either Areas "A" or "B". (I'm not sure that you can!)

P F Tinmore, et al,

I am talking about "Donor Dollars" and "not" --- part of the Oslo Accords, to pay for the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) recruitment and training programs for police forces with paramilitary capabilities (AKA: European style Gendarmes). The Security Assistance Program is an entirely separate funding stream.

Why is it then that the US is always giving donor dollars to the Ramallah Government (such that it is)?

For someone who pretends to be knowledgeable, you surely ask some stupid questions.

Palestinian Authority Budget 28% for Security Forces - Funded by US

Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID) | ANERA | USAID

Why is it that Arab Palestinians cannot raise the same level of funding from the entire rest of the world?

Because it doesn't go to help the Palestinians.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

No single government contributes more (as a donor nation) to the Arab Palestinians than the US; usually by a factor of three:.

View attachment 110647
Repaired Link Contribution data as of 31 December 2015. All Governments.
​

Additionally, there is another set of funding streams for the Arab Palestinians. List of additional donors financing participation of indigenous participants to the Working Group on Indigenous Populations and Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues... This does not include the Grant awards:
• Grant cycles for 2016-2017

If you examine the entire list of list of Government and EU Pledges to the UNRWA, you will find that the entire Arab League donated about one-third of the amount the US donated (based on 2015 numbers).

NOW, there is a reason that the entire resources of the Arab League does not match The Great Satan; not that I know why it is. But maybe the powerful angelic creature of the west is not so evil after all.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but still nothing goes to economic development. Israel does not allow that.

calls on Arab states to refrain from giving training, sanctuary or financial or military aid to groups that mount attacks against other Arab countries.

So, What Arab countries are Palestinians attacking?

More irrelevance from Rocco.

(COMMENT)

In fact, with no trouble at all, I was able to find

Community-led Development and Infrastructure
Our current programming continues to build better lives for the Palestinian people. In the West Bank, we are implementing the Palestine Local Government and Infrastructure (LGI) program, a $100-million USAID-funded project. LGI is responding to community infrastructure needs in Palestine.

ANERA > Economic Development > Community Development > Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID)
Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID)
From 2013 to 2018, ANERA is implementing the USAID-funded Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID) to increase Palestinians’ access to water and sanitation.

• Enable approximately 60 Palestinian communities to have increased access to new and/or improved potable water supplies
• Enable more than 20 Palestinian communities to have access to improved sanitation systems
• With Palestinian Authority ministries and local community leaders, implement 50+ infrastructure projects in health, education, youth, and other sectors

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[fanger]

According to Arabs, terrorism isn't terrorism if its conducted against non-Arabs. Then its just "armed struggle".

According to israeli's, terrorism isn't terrorism if its conducted against Arabs. Then its just "Police operation".

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Arab Palestinian is always using the excuse that (say you say) : "nothing goes to economic development. Israel does not allow that."

That excuse only passes the smell test in Area "C" where Israel has full jurisdiction by agreement with the Palestinians.

Is it possible for you to give an example of one of there restrictions on infrastructure development in either Areas "A" or "B". (I'm not sure that you can!)

P F Tinmore, et al,

I am talking about "Donor Dollars" and "not" --- part of the Oslo Accords, to pay for the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) recruitment and training programs for police forces with paramilitary capabilities (AKA: European style Gendarmes). The Security Assistance Program is an entirely separate funding stream.

Why is it then that the US is always giving donor dollars to the Ramallah Government (such that it is)?

For someone who pretends to be knowledgeable, you surely ask some stupid questions.

Palestinian Authority Budget 28% for Security Forces - Funded by US

Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID) | ANERA | USAID

Why is it that Arab Palestinians cannot raise the same level of funding from the entire rest of the world?

Because it doesn't go to help the Palestinians.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

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No single government contributes more (as a donor nation) to the Arab Palestinians than the US; usually by a factor of three:.

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Repaired Link Contribution data as of 31 December 2015. All Governments.
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Additionally, there is another set of funding streams for the Arab Palestinians. List of additional donors financing participation of indigenous participants to the Working Group on Indigenous Populations and Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues... This does not include the Grant awards:
• Grant cycles for 2016-2017

If you examine the entire list of list of Government and EU Pledges to the UNRWA, you will find that the entire Arab League donated about one-third of the amount the US donated (based on 2015 numbers).

NOW, there is a reason that the entire resources of the Arab League does not match The Great Satan; not that I know why it is. But maybe the powerful angelic creature of the west is not so evil after all.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but still nothing goes to economic development. Israel does not allow that.

calls on Arab states to refrain from giving training, sanctuary or financial or military aid to groups that mount attacks against other Arab countries.

So, What Arab countries are Palestinians attacking?

More irrelevance from Rocco.

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In fact, with no trouble at all, I was able to find

Community-led Development and Infrastructure
Our current programming continues to build better lives for the Palestinian people. In the West Bank, we are implementing the Palestine Local Government and Infrastructure (LGI) program, a $100-million USAID-funded project. LGI is responding to community infrastructure needs in Palestine.

ANERA > Economic Development > Community Development > Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID)
Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID)
From 2013 to 2018, ANERA is implementing the USAID-funded Palestinian Community Infrastructure Development Program (PCID) to increase Palestinians’ access to water and sanitation.

• Enable approximately 60 Palestinian communities to have increased access to new and/or improved potable water supplies
• Enable more than 20 Palestinian communities to have access to improved sanitation systems
• With Palestinian Authority ministries and local community leaders, implement 50+ infrastructure projects in health, education, youth, and other sectors

Most Respectfully,
R

Where is the economic development?

 

[RoccoR]

"fanger, et al,

Yes, we hear that claim a lot in these discussions.

According to Arabs, terrorism isn't terrorism if its conducted against non-Arabs. Then its just "armed struggle".

According to israeli's, terrorism isn't terrorism if its conducted against Arabs. Then its just "Police operation".

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As in any matter of law and the enforcement of the law, you look at the claims one at a time. There is no blanket claim for either side; and each claim has distinct Elements of the Offense. What specific event are you attaching this Global Charge (terrorism)?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

"fanger, et al,

Yes, we hear that claim a lot in these discussions.

According to Arabs, terrorism isn't terrorism if its conducted against non-Arabs. Then its just "armed struggle".

According to israeli's, terrorism isn't terrorism if its conducted against Arabs. Then its just "Police operation".

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As in any matter of law and the enforcement of the law, you look at the claims one at a time. There is no blanket claim for either side; and each claim has distinct Elements of the Offense. What specific event are you attaching this Global Charge (terrorism)?

Most Respectfully,
R

The terrorism label is mostly third grade political name calling. It is a big part of Israel's propaganda campaign.