4 day vs 5 day school week.

[SweetSue92]

Is being responsible for getting schoolchildren to school any less "CONSERVATIVE" than forcing them "even by law" to attend school in the first place?

I don't think children should be forced "by law" to attend school. In my state they are certainly not, and our homeschool laws are pretty lax. I believe parents can even "unschool" their children in most states, which is virtually no schooling at all.

You realize the general definition of conservative is favoring small, limited, local govt right?

 

[initforme]

I don't think children should be forced "by law" to attend school. In my state they are certainly not, and our homeschool laws are pretty lax. I believe parents can even "unschool" their children in most states, which is virtually no schooling at all.

You realize the general definition of conservative is favoring small, limited, local govt right?

And those that get zero education. They will be taken advantage of by american employers. This will lead to lower labor wages when labor wages should be climbing to where they belong.

 

[initforme]

And those that get zero education. They will be taken advantage of by american employers. This will lead to lower labor wages when labor wages should be climbing to where they belong.

Make it too hard to educate and raise kids and people will stop having families altogether. The rise of single adults will rise to unbelievable levels.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't think children should be forced "by law" to attend school. In my state they are certainly not, and our homeschool laws are pretty lax. I believe parents can even "unschool" their children in most states, which is virtually no schooling at all.

In your school attendance is required by law, be it public, private or home schools.

Age of Attendance The law in Michigan governing compulsory attendance requires a parent, legal guardian, or other person having control or charge of a child age six to sixteen to send the child to school during the entire school year, except under the limited circumstances specified in subsection (3) of section 380.1561. A child who was age eleven on or after December 1, 2009 or who was age eleven before that date and entered grade 6 in 2009 or later shall attend school from age six to eighteen. The exceptions include, but are not limited to, sending the child to a state-approved, nonpublic school or educating the child at home in an organized educational program. Although the compulsory school attendance law does not apply to children under the age of six, a child who is at least five years of age by December 1 of the school year and is a resident of a school district which provides kindergarten work is entitled to enroll in the kindergarten [MCL 380.1147].

 

[Unkotare]

I don't think children should be forced "by law" to attend school. ....

What state is that?

 

[fncceo]

What do you all think? Is this a good move or a bad one?

Just a little fun fact. Crime tends to increase on days when schools are not in session.

 

[Unkotare]

Just a little fun fact. Crime tends to increase on days when schools are not in session.

Now imagine if that were every day.

 

[fncceo]

Now imagine if that were every day.

Well, I would appreciate the overtime. The thing about juvenile offenders is ... not matter how many times they are arrested, they continue to be let out to continue offending the next day.

Job security.

 

[Redfish]

I'm not a lib. I voted for Trump twice. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of fellow conservatives when they hate govt services and public schools but want to force all the kids on school buses so their old hind ends aren't inconvenienced.

Really?

its not about inconvenience, its about common sense. sorry but you seem to be lacking that. I'm glad you aren't a lib. congrats on that.

 

[SweetSue92]

In your school attendance is required by law, be it public, private or home schools.

Age of Attendance The law in Michigan governing compulsory attendance requires a parent, legal guardian, or other person having control or charge of a child age six to sixteen to send the child to school during the entire school year, except under the limited circumstances specified in subsection (3) of section 380.1561. A child who was age eleven on or after December 1, 2009 or who was age eleven before that date and entered grade 6 in 2009 or later shall attend school from age six to eighteen. The exceptions include, but are not limited to, sending the child to a state-approved, nonpublic school or educating the child at home in an organized educational program. Although the compulsory school attendance law does not apply to children under the age of six, a child who is at least five years of age by December 1 of the school year and is a resident of a school district which provides kindergarten work is entitled to enroll in the kindergarten [MCL 380.1147].

Michigan is known to be one of the most lax states of all with homeschooling oversight.

Interesting that you seem to be so into forcing children into school, as a libertarian. Note: I'm not against it. But it's certainly not a libertarian stance, is it?

 

[SweetSue92]

its not about inconvenience, its about common sense. sorry but you seem to be lacking that. I'm glad you aren't a lib. congrats on that.

Common sense is something that inconveniences you. Right.

 

[psikeyhackr]

I think quality of books and curriculum is more important than number of days. I mostly ignored history and got straight C's with straight A's in math and sciences. Actually science fiction made science more interesting than science teachers.

But literary people select crappy SF books that don't contain any science. Try:

A Fall of Moondust by Arthur C Clarke

He wrote about infrared and Lagrange points and now we have the James Webb Space Telescope at the Earth-Sun L2 point doing infrared telescopy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Michigan is known to be one of the most lax states of all with homeschooling oversight.

Interesting that you seem to be so into forcing children into school, as a libertarian. Note: I'm not against it. But it's certainly not a libertarian stance, is it?

I am not supporting the forcing of children into school, I am saying that IF the Govt is going to do that, then they should provide transportation for those children forced into school.

I am fine with getting rid of compulsory education.

 

[Redfish]

Common sense is something that inconveniences you. Right.

No, common sense is using a free school bus rather than your personal car to get your kids to and from school. What is your issue with school buses?

 

[Redfish]

I am not supporting the forcing of children into school, I am saying that IF the Govt is going to do that, then they should provide transportation for those children forced into school.

I am fine with getting rid of compulsory education.

the teachers union has already stopped education of any kind, compulsory or voluntary, they no longer teach kids they indoctrinate them in left wing bullshit.

gator thinks this is fake news. if so, why are american kids behind the rest of the civilized world in math, science, and history? why are the chinese and japanese coming up with all the ground breaking discoveries? Our young are being taught about 57 genders and racial conflict instead of reading writing and math. The teachers union is aligned with the far left socialists that want to destroy our nation, and if we do nothing, they will.

 

[Unkotare]

I think quality of books and curriculum is more important than number of days. I mostly ignored history and got straight C's with straight A's in math and sciences. Actually science fiction made science more interesting than science teachers.

But literary people select crappy SF books that don't contain any science. Try:

A Fall of Moondust by Arthur C Clarke

He wrote about infrared and Lagrange points and now we have the James Webb Space Telescope at the Earth-Sun L2 point doing infrared telescopy.

Same post 10000000000000000000000000000 times.

 

[ClaireH]

There are only so many hours of quality instructional time that can be crammed into a single day. Additional hours of education the same day achieve diminishing returns. Perhaps because a child's attention span has its limits or simply because the child becomes tired.

Excellent point JM.
Average attention spans work out to be like this:

• 2 years old: four to six minutes
• 4 years old: eight to 12 minutes
• 6 years old: 12 to 18 minutes
• 8 years old: 16 to 24 minutes
• 10 years old: 20 to 30 minutes
• 12 years old: 24 to 36 minutes
• 14 years old: 28 to 42 minutes
• 16 years old: 32 to 48 minutes

Normal Attention Span Expectations By Age

"Pay attention!" "Focus!" "Just two more pages, then you can take a break." Virtually all parents have tried pleading with their kids to get them to buckle down and focus on something. Kids have short attention spans, after all. But when do you know if your child's inattention is an issue that...

www.brainbalancecenters.com

 

[ClaireH]

I will await counter evidence Unkotare, your laugh emote means nothing.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Excellent point JM.
Average attention spans work out to be like this:

• 2 years old: four to six minutes
• 4 years old: eight to 12 minutes
• 6 years old: 12 to 18 minutes
• 8 years old: 16 to 24 minutes
• 10 years old: 20 to 30 minutes
• 12 years old: 24 to 36 minutes
• 14 years old: 28 to 42 minutes
• 16 years old: 32 to 48 minutes

Normal Attention Span Expectations By Age

"Pay attention!" "Focus!" "Just two more pages, then you can take a break." Virtually all parents have tried pleading with their kids to get them to buckle down and focus on something. Kids have short attention spans, after all. But when do you know if your child's inattention is an issue that...

www.brainbalancecenters.com

But if your child's attention span is shorter than average, that's worth addressing

Isn't an average computed from lower and longer than Average. Does this mean there is something wrong with all of the 49% below the average.

 

[Unkotare]

Excellent point JM.
Average attention spans work out to be like this:

• 2 years old: four to six minutes
• 4 years old: eight to 12 minutes
• 6 years old: 12 to 18 minutes
• 8 years old: 16 to 24 minutes
• 10 years old: 20 to 30 minutes
• 12 years old: 24 to 36 minutes
• 14 years old: 28 to 42 minutes
• 16 years old: 32 to 48 minutes

Normal Attention Span Expectations By Age

"Pay attention!" "Focus!" "Just two more pages, then you can take a break." Virtually all parents have tried pleading with their kids to get them to buckle down and focus on something. Kids have short attention spans, after all. But when do you know if your child's inattention is an issue that...

www.brainbalancecenters.com

You gettin' a cut from that company?

Try teaching a room full of 30-40 16 year olds and see how far you get into that 48 minutes.