274 FBI agents sent to Capitol for J6, many later complained they were political ‘pawns'

That is not the job of the FBI. That should have been the job of the National Guard. (The FBI is not a peace-keeping force) The FBI was there for one reason only: to make things get out of hand.

Also, if they were really sent to help contain the crowd, why then were they in plain-clothes? They should have been in uniforms with FBI badges showing, to let people know they were the FBI. Both to make the crowd quiet down and to protect the agents as well. But they chose to go all underhanded and to deceive people.
That’s the complaint of the FBI, that it’s not their job. A rational complaint. They weren’t “in the crowd” and they weren’t there until the riot happened.

Trump doesn’t get this, and has been repeating lies. Or he has dementia.

The National Guard took hours and hours to get there. It’s still unclear why they took so long. Everyone blamed everyone else.
 
Post exactly what Wray said and we can discuss it.

You can’t use this article to support your delusional belief that the FBI caused the riot.
They apparently did nothing to slow it down or stop it, either. IOW, why were they there and why did the FBI lie about them being there?
 
They apparently did nothing to slow it down or stop it, either. IOW, why were they there and why did the FBI lie about them being there?
The FBI never lied about being there. They went there to try and help stop it.

Trump lied, but that doesn’t bother you. It’s totally expected.
 
Are you still pretending that there were NOT fbi agents in the mob?

The article only says that the FBI came to help the Capitol police in crowd control after the riot started. They weren’t “in the crowd”.
 
The article only says that the FBI came to help the Capitol police in crowd control after the riot started. They weren’t “in the crowd”.

You don't think that hte fbi had agents in the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers?
 
Trump meme
Putting up nonsensical memes is not debate.
1. Trump requested the NG on J3, before J6, and Nancy Pelosi told her direct report, (Irving) to deny the request.

2. Trump had beautiful women like Karen McDougal in love with him, he didn't need jail bait, duh.
Besides, if there were anything incriminating Biden would have released it.
Speaking of pedo Joe Biden, when he showered with Ashley, where did he wash her, and where did she wash him?

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The article only says that the FBI came to help the Capitol police in crowd control after the riot started. They weren’t “in the crowd”.
I don't think it's helpful to argue semantics like that. It doesn't matter whether the FBI was "in the crowd" to cause a riot, or whether they were only there to control the crowd. The important thing is, there was FBI presence (this is an undeniable fact), and the director of FBI lied about it. Through his teeth.
 
The FBI never lied about being there. They went there to try and help stop it.

Trump lied, but that doesn’t bother you. It’s totally expected.
And what did they do to "try and help stop it"? That's the question. You say they were there to stop it, so what did they do?
 
You don't think that hte fbi had agents in the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers?
They weren’t “agents”. They had confidential sources in these organizations. Not agents.
 
I don't think it's helpful to argue semantics like that. It doesn't matter whether the FBI was "in the crowd" to cause a riot, or whether they were only there to control the crowd. The important thing is, there was FBI presence (this is an undeniable fact), and the director of FBI lied about it. Through his teeth.
They didn't lie about their presence. You're making things up.

It matters very much what the FBI was there to do, as there's a huge difference between inciting a riot and helping defend from it. This isn't semantics.
 
And what did they do to "try and help stop it"? That's the question. You say they were there to stop it, so what did they do?
Not much. They weren't equipped to handle the situation and so mostly just stood around.
 
They weren’t “agents”. They had confidential sources in these organizations. Not agents.


Cool. YOur the first lefty that had the balls to admit that.

What were their orders?
 
The OP literally said "plain-clothe agents".

One of you is lying.
Read what I replied to, because you're missing context. Your accusation is wrong because you lack the context.

The other poster was asking about having FBI agents in the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys. They didn't.
 
Cool. YOur the first lefty that had the balls to admit that.

What were their orders?
We've known for a long time that they had sources in these organizations. I have no problem admitting that. It's been widely reported for years.

The problem is your side confuses sources with agents. The right wing power of conflation is how they bend reality for their delusional base.

Their orders were to report what they saw and heard.
 
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We've known for a long time that they had sources in these organizations. I have no problem admitting that. It's been widely reported for years.

The problem is your side confuses sources with agents. The right wing power of conflation is how they bend reality for their delusional base.

Their orders were to report what they saw and heard.

So, did the "sources" report on the "plans" to storm the capitol?
 
They didn't lie about their presence. You're making things up.
I tried to find exactly what Wray said, I didn't find much, I only found that he denied the FBI instigated the riot, which is different from denying that the FBI was there. So maybe you do have a point. Anyway I will drop this for now.


It matters very much what the FBI was there to do, as there's a huge difference between inciting a riot and helping defend from it. This isn't semantics.
If the FBI was truly there to contain the crowd, then why did they make the agents wear plain-clothes? This tells me they wanted to conceal their identity from the crowd, which is very sketchy.


The other poster was asking about having FBI agents in the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys. They didn't.
How are you so sure that they didn't? Are you a part of the FBI? I am an average citizen, and I certainly cannot say with absolute certainty that the FBI does nor doesn't have presence in certain groups. And I am sure you are an average citizen, too. So why do you act with such confidence?
We've known for a long time that they had sources in these organizations. I have no problem admitting that. It's been widely reported for years.

The problem is your side confuses sources with agents. The right wing power of conflation is how they bend reality for their delusional base.
Again, I don't think it helps to argue about technicality like, "those people are merely informants, they are technically not FBI agents". Maybe they truly aren't FBI agents, but they certainly draw a salary from the FBI, whom they work for and report to. In this sense, does it really matter that they technically aren't agents?
 

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