25 times Trump was soft on Russia

[Papageorgio]

You people are just plain dumb, Bush, Biden, Trump and now Biden is soft on Russia and no one wants to deal with them. Not sure why Democrats and Republicans like Putin, but I know lots of money is behind the answer.

 

[toobfreak]

Don't you get it freak ? Trump was doing Putins job Making a mess out of NATO

NATO is a mess all by itself. Just another joke of a money hole for the USA to drop money in where everyone benefits except us, who drop in 95% of all the money there!

And as far as Putin is concerned, Trump never did him no good at all, if anyone has been sucking Putin's dick for ages, it has been the democrats from the Bidens (Hunter and Joe), to Obumma and Hillary. Remember just 10 years ago, it was Obumma who laughed when Romney said Russia was the country we had to look out for!

 

[eddiew37]

You people are just plain dumb, Bush, Biden, Trump and now Biden is soft on Russia and no one wants to deal with them. Not sure why Democrats and Republicans like Putin, but I know lots of money is behind the answer.

Americans have more money to spend and more money in their banks than ever before

 

[eddiew37]

NATO is a mess all by itself. Just another joke of a money hole for the USA to drop money in where everyone benefits except us, who drop in 95% of all the money there!

And as far as Putin is concerned, Trump never did him no good at all, if anyone has been sucking Putin's dick for ages, it has been the democrats from the Bidens (Hunter and Joe), to Obumma and Hillary. Remember just 10 years ago, it was Obumma who laughed when Romney said Russia was the country we had to look out for!

Yeah Romney was right and republicans bash him And Putin didn't attack Ukraine under Trump because the moron Trump was dismantling NATO doing Putins job

 

[Papageorgio]

Americans have more money to spend and more money in their banks than ever before

With inflation we need more money to spend and we lost 2.4% of our spending power in 2021 and it will be much worse this year. We have more to spend because we have been printing lots of money and that money buys less than it did last year and the year before and so on.

 

[toobfreak]

Yeah Romney was right and republicans bash him

Just because Romney was right about one thing, he was still an a-hole regardless.

And Putin didn't attack Ukraine under Trump because the moron Trump was dismantling NATO doing Putins job

Trump dismantled nothing. Name me one country Trump removed from NATO? Yeah, I thought so. Trump was actually trying to FIX NATO. Putin didn't invade Ukraine because Trump got Pootie on the phone one day and read him the riot act complete with expletives if he dared do what he is doing now. No one was willing to call Trump's bluff. Face facts: Putin (and next China, N. Korea and Iran) are free to do what they want now with Vegetable in the WH.

 

[Rigby5]

25 times Trump was soft on Russia​

Analysis by Marshall Cohen, CNN
Updated 10:29 AM ET, Sun November 17, 2019

(CNN)President Donald Trump has an Achilles' heel when it comes to Russia.
Over the years, he's made no secret that he has a soft spot for the country and its authoritarian leader, President Vladimir Putin. Trump has proved that he is willing to reject widely held US foreign policy views and align himself with the Kremlin on everything from Russian interference in US elections to the war in Syria.
Trump's ties to Russians were so concerning that the FBI believed there was good reason to investigate potential collusion between his 2016 campaign and the Kremlin. Counterintelligence investigators also examined whether Trump himself was somehow a Russian asset. (Special counsel Robert Mueller did not establish a criminal conspiracy of collusion.)
In Trump's eyes, these allegations are proof of a conspiracy against him by Democratic lawmakers and other "deep state" enemies in the US government. He bombastically declared last year, "There's never been a president as tough on Russia as I have been."
But that claim is simply false, based on Trump's actions over the last few years. Here's a full breakdown of 25 occasions when Trump was soft on Russia or gave Putin a boost.

Russia's President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump talk during a bilateral meeting at the G20 leaders summit in Osaka, Japan, June 28, 2019.

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin​

While he was a private citizen, during his 2016 campaign and throughout his presidency, Trump has showered Putin with praise. He said Putin was "so nice," he called Putin a "strong leader" and said Putin has done "a really great job outsmarting our country." Trump also claimed he'd "get along very well" with Putin. Few, if any, Western leaders have echoed these comments.

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign​

Trump raised eyebrows in spring 2016 when he hired GOP operative Paul Manafort to run his presidential campaign. Manafort spent a decade working for pro-Russian politicians and parties in Ukraine and cultivated close relationships with Putin-friendly oligarchs. Manafort is currently in prison for, among other things, evading taxes on the $60 million he made from his Ukraine consulting.

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea​

Trump said Putin did "an amazing job of taking the mantle" when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. During the presidential campaign, Trump broke with US policy and suggested he was OK if Russia kept the Ukrainian territory. He repeated a Kremlin talking point, saying, "The people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were."

Trump's team softened the GOP platform on Ukraine​

Ahead of the 2016 Republican National Convention, Trump campaign aides blocked language from the party platform that called for the US government to send lethal weapons to Ukraine for its war against Russian proxies. Mueller investigated this for potential collusion but determined the change was not made "at the behest" of Russia. (The Trump administration ultimately gave lethal arms and anti-tank weapons to the Ukrainian military.)

Trump made light of Russian hacking​

Throughout the 2016 campaign, Trump cast doubt on the US government assessment that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee and Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman. At a news conference in July 2016, he even asked Russia to hack more, saying, "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,"

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016​

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department and the Senate Intelligence Committee all confirmed that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump. But Trump has repeatedly rejected this view, and publicly sided with Putin at the Helsinki summit in 2018, saying he accepted Putin's denials.

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions​

After the election, the Trump transition team asked Russia not to retaliate against new US sanctions imposed by then-President Barack Obama. The sanctions were meant to punish Russia for interfering in the election, but then-Trump aide Michael Flynn asked the Russian ambassador not to escalate the situation so they could have a good relationship once Trump took over.

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions​

Days before his inauguration, Trump told The Wall Street Journal that he was open to lifting sanctions on Russia. He said: "If you get along and if Russia is really helping us, why would anybody have sanctions if somebody's doing some really great things?" Putin has tried for years to persuade the US and European countries to end crippling sanctions on Russia's economy.

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer​

Bucking other US leaders, Trump has dismissed credible allegations that Putin uses violence against his opponents. Trump said in 2015, "I think it would be despicable if that took place, but I haven't seen any evidence that he killed anybody, in terms of reporters." Asked again in February 2017, Trump deflected, saying, "There are a lot of killers. Do you think our country is so innocent?"

Trump mulled giving spy compounds to Russia​

The Washington Post reported in May 2017 that the Trump administration considered returning two diplomatic compounds to Russia. The Obama administration expelled Russian diplomats and seized the compounds in New York and Maryland after the 2016 election, claiming they were used for "intelligence" purposes. The compounds were never returned to Russia.

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence​

President Trump with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office
In a shocking move during the early months of his presidency, Trump shared highly classified intelligence with two senior Russian officials during an Oval Office meeting in May 2017. The intelligence, which was about ISIS, was sensitive enough that it could have exposed a vulnerable source. The unplanned disclosure by Trump rattled even many of his Republican allies.

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions​

Lawmakers passed a bipartisan bill in July 2017 imposing new sanctions against Russia, even though Trump administration officials reportedly tried to water down the language. Trump reluctantly signed the bill, but said the new law contained "clearly unconstitutional provisions." Trump had little choice in the matter because the bill had passed with veto-proof majorities. (The Treasury Department followed up with several rounds of hard-hitting sanctions.)

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats​

Trump thanked Putin for expelling hundreds of US diplomats from Russia in August 2017, saying, "I want to thank him because we're trying to cut down our payroll." Putin kicked out the officials to retaliate for US sanctions. Trump's view conflicted with the State Department, which said the mass expulsion was "uncalled for." (Trump later said he was being sarcastic.)

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies​

Trump has repeatedly attacked NATO, aligning himself with Putin, who wants to weaken the alliance. Trump said NATO was "obsolete," rattling European leaders. At his first NATO summit, Trump scolded other countries for not spending enough on defense and declined to commit to NATO's mutual defense pledge. (Trump later said he supported the mutual defense provision.)

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska​

In January 2019, the Trump administration lifted sanctions on three Russian companies tied to Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch with close ties to Putin. The Treasury Department had sanctioned Deripaska and the companies over his support for Russian interference in the 2016 election. In a bipartisan rebuke, 11 Senate Republicans supported a Democratic resolution calling for the sanctions to remain.

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election​

Ignoring the advice of several top national security aides, Trump congratulated Putin on his March 2018 reelection victory. Putin got 77% of the vote, but Western observers declared that the election "lacked genuine competition" and took place in an "overly controlled legal and political environment." Trump's critics said he had given the election legitimacy it did not deserve.

Trump defended USSR invasion of Afghanistan​

During a January 2019 Cabinet meeting, Trump defended the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan. He said the Soviet Union "was right" to invade in 1979 because "terrorists were going into Russia." The comments puzzled many observers, who noted that the Soviets invaded to bolster a communist government and the US had backed Afghan militants who fought the Soviets.

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe​

Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban and President Donald Trump in the Oval Office on May 13, 2019.
On several occasions, Trump has praised controversial far-right European leaders who have been shunned by most US officials because of their close ties to Putin. Trump met at the White House with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, a top Kremlin ally. He praised the campaign of French politician Marine Le Pen, whose party previously got millions from a Russian bank.

Trump didn't publicly condemn Russian attack​

According to congressional testimony, Trump declined to publicly condemn a Russian attack against Ukrainian military vessels in November 2018, even though the State Department prepared a statement for him. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo criticized Russia's "dangerous escalation." The White House didn't say anything, but Trump canceled a meeting with Putin.

Trump wanted to let Russia back in the G7​

Breaking with American allies, Trump repeatedly called for Russia to be invited back into the Group of Seven. Russia was suspended from the working group of leading industrial nations in 2014 after Putin annexed Crimea. At this year's G7 summit in France, Trump pressed the other leaders to include Russia next year. They balked at the request, which would have been a huge benefit to Putin without any concessions.

Trump's Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost​

Trump announced in October 2019 that US troops were withdrawing from northern Syria. The abrupt move cleared the way for Turkey to conquer territories previously controlled by the US and allied Kurdish militias. It also gave Russia a golden opportunity to expand its influence and swiftly take over abandoned US outposts and checkpoints. Trump's move was a boon for Putin.

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS​

After announcing the Syria withdrawal, Trump repeated Kremlin talking points about ISIS. He said, "Russia hates ISIS as much as the United States does" and that they are equal partners in the fight. But Trump's comments don't reflect the reality on the ground: Since intervening in Syria in 2015, the Russian military has focused its airstrikes on anti-government rebels, not ISIS.

President Donald Trump and Russia's President Vladimir Putin attend a joint press conference after a meeting at the Presidential Palace in Helsinki, on July 16, 2018. Full credit: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine​

Over the past two months, Trump has said many false things about Ukraine that align with Russian disinformation about the country. This includes claims of uncontrollable corruption, improper ties between Ukrainian officials and the Obama administration, and allegations that Ukraine meddled in US elections. This helps Putin's goal of destabilizing US-Ukraine relations.

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine​

As the impeachment inquiry has revealed, Trump personally froze $391 million in US military and security assistance for Ukraine in mid-2019. US diplomats said Ukraine desperately needed the help for its war against Russian proxies. Previously, the Trump administration had slow-walked sales of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine because of concerns it would upset Russia, according to a State Department official.

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil​

Trump said last week that he is thinking about visiting Russia, at Putin's invitation, to attend a military parade next year. The US government has repeatedly called out Russia's aggressive moves around the world, so a visit from a sitting US president would be highly unusual. Obama made the last visit in 2013, when relations were warmer, before Russia invaded Ukraine.

What is stupid about this is that Putin is the best and most important ally we have ever had.
Russia has never been imperialist, colonial, or even greedy.
They help countries for free all the time, like China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Syria. etc.
The US has NEVER done any good like Russia has, and instead has always murdered, lied, and stolen, for greed.
So we should be supporting Putin instead of Biden or Trump.
I think we should be voting for Putin for president of the US.
Maybe then the US government would stop lying, cheating, murdering, etc.

And by the way, Russia did not "invade" the Ukraine.
Russia is trying to stop the racist, fascist Azov Battalion from murdering more ethnic Russians who should never have been absorbed by the Ukraine by force.
Half of the Ukraine is Russian and does not belong in the Ukraine.
And the Ukraine government in Kyiv, totally sold out to the US, and represents no one.

 

[Stann]

What is stupid about this is that Putin is the best and most important ally we have ever had.
Russia has never been imperialist, colonial, or even greedy.
They help countries for free all the time, like China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Syria. etc.
The US has NEVER done any good like Russia has, and instead has always murdered, lied, and stolen, for greed.
So we should be supporting Putin instead of Biden or Trump.
I think we should be voting for Putin for president of the US.
Maybe then the US government would stop lying, cheating, murdering, etc.

And by the way, Russia did not "invade" the Ukraine.
Russia is trying to stop the racist, fascist Azov Battalion from murdering more ethnic Russians who should never have been absorbed by the Ukraine by force.
Half of the Ukraine is Russian and does not belong in the Ukraine.
And the Ukraine government in Kyiv, totally sold out to the US, and represents no one.

Wow this is really unbelievable I mean that unbelievable that you can believe all this. Total lies, you must be a Russian plant and or you should move to Russia if you believe all that crap. You don't have one ounce of americanism in you.

 

[Rigby5]

Americans have more money to spend and more money in their banks than ever before

Not true.
Not only is the minimum wage still $7.50, but our effective income and buying power has been continually declining since the 1940s.

And the reason for it is simple.
The minority wealthy elite have been using the national debt to get more wealthy.
We are forced to buy their weapons, oil, utilities, services, etc. while they double medical costs, tuition, fuel, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

Wow this is really unbelievable I mean that unbelievable that you can believe all this. Total lies, you must be a Russian plant and or you should move to Russia if you believe all that crap. You don't have one ounce of americanism in you.

Tell me an instance where Russia lied and massacred innocent people like we did over Iraq WMD?
Russia controlled Warsaw Pact nations, but only because they wanted stronger borders, after seeing what Hitler did in WWII.
Russia then has always been defensive.
It is the US that is offensive, with troops and bases all over the world.
Look at the foreign governments we attacked or tried to destroy?
China, Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Honduras, Chili, Iran (1953), Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc.
In contrast, Russia harmed no one.
The facts are that Russia is actually the good guys, and the US military is the bad guys.

 

[Stann]

Tell me an instance where Russia lied and massacred innocent people like we did over Iraq WMD?
Russia controlled Warsaw Pact nations, but only because they wanted stronger borders, after seeing what Hitler did in WWII.
Russia then has always been defensive.
It is the US that is offensive, with troops and bases all over the world.
Look at the foreign governments we attacked or tried to destroy?
China, Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Honduras, Chili, Iran (1953), Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc.
In contrast, Russia harmed no one.
The facts are that Russia is actually the good guys, and the US military is the bad guys.

I say it again you are not an American I'm not even going to talk to you and your points don't make sense either. Putin is an xkgb murdering thug, no one in the world in their right mind respects or likes him. And you have the call to suggest he run for president United States. You have to be a foreigner because you don't know only citizens can run for the presidency.

 

[Rigby5]

I say it again you are not an American I'm not even going to talk to you and your points don't make sense either. Putin is an xkgb murdering thug, no one in the world in their right mind respects or likes him. And you have the call to suggest he run for president United States. You have to be a foreigner because you don't know only citizens can run for the presidency.

The US had the murdering thugs, like the CIA that lied about Saddam, the FBI that knew all about bin Laden's plot to train pilots, etc.
Everyone knows that the federal War on Drugs, federal gun control, etc., are totally and completely illegal.

The citizenship requirement for US president is meaningless because the wealthy corrupt wealthy elite are not necessarily just US citizens any more, but control multi national corporations. That makes the citizenship requirement obsolete and easily cast aside, along with other archaic confusions. The wealthy elite in the US sold out to China over 30 years ago. Our only choice now is whether we want to align with China or Russia, and I prefer Russia. China is way more greedy and ambitious.

 

[Stann]

The US had the murdering thugs, like the CIA that lied about Saddam, the FBI that knew all about bin Laden's plot to train pilots, etc.
Everyone knows that the federal War on Drugs, federal gun control, etc., are totally and completely illegal.

The citizenship requirement for US president is meaningless because the wealthy corrupt wealthy elite are not necessarily just US citizens any more, but control multi national corporations. That makes the citizenship requirement obsolete and easily cast aside, along with other archaic confusions. The wealthy elite in the US sold out to China over 30 years ago. Our only choice now is whether we want to align with China or Russia, and I prefer Russia. China is way more greedy and ambitious.

All the corruption you're talking about is what destroyed the Soviet Union. You must be a Russian. No American would talk like this or even think like this it's insane.

 

[rightwinger]

Tell me an instance where Russia lied and massacred innocent people like we did over Iraq WMD?

Ukraine

 

[Aldo Raine]

Tell me an instance where Russia lied and massacred innocent people like we did over Iraq WMD?
Russia controlled Warsaw Pact nations, but only because they wanted stronger borders, after seeing what Hitler did in WWII.
Russia then has always been defensive.
It is the US that is offensive, with troops and bases all over the world.
Look at the foreign governments we attacked or tried to destroy?
China, Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Honduras, Chili, Iran (1953), Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc.
In contrast, Russia harmed no one.
The facts are that Russia is actually the good guys, and the US military is the bad guys.

Afghanistan

 

[Stann]

Ukraine

You are talking to a crazy person.

 

[gipper]

Afghanistan

Oh! Didn’t you hear? The USSR no longer exists. It peacefully dissolved it’s empire. You’re only 30 years behind the times.

 

[jc456]

Tell me an instance where Russia lied and massacred innocent people like we did over Iraq WMD?
Russia controlled Warsaw Pact nations, but only because they wanted stronger borders, after seeing what Hitler did in WWII.
Russia then has always been defensive.
It is the US that is offensive, with troops and bases all over the world.
Look at the foreign governments we attacked or tried to destroy?
China, Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Honduras, Chili, Iran (1953), Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc.
In contrast, Russia harmed no one.
The facts are that Russia is actually the good guys, and the US military is the bad guys.

Now there’s a point I had never considered, how is what Putin doing differently than Bush did in 2002? Demofks explain

 

[rightwinger]

Now there’s a point I had never considered, how is what Putin doing differently than Bush did in 2002? Demofks explain

Putin is capturing territory and keeping it

 

[eddiew37]

Not true.
Not only is the minimum wage still $7.50, but our effective income and buying power has been continually declining since the 1940s.

And the reason for it is simple.
The minority wealthy elite have been using the national debt to get more wealthy.
We are forced to buy their weapons, oil, utilities, services, etc. while they double medical costs, tuition, fuel, etc.

Rigby I want to thank you for your contribution