24 Hours? How about 1330 Hours have passed and no end to the Russian/Ukraine war! Trump Con?

[Mac1958]

Can anyone believe what Trump says and promises?

With someone like this, there's just no way to know if he's lying, or if he is self-delusional and really believes his own hyperbole.

He's so desperate to pump himself up in the eyes of others, that he essentially does it to himself. He may buy what he's selling.

 

[Correll]

Are you trying to say that what someone promises and guarantees that it will get done in a certain period of time and it does not happen, has no importance and should be ignored?

Yes. Words are just words. What counts is intent and actions. Trump is making a good faith effort at peace. That is what I expected.

I didn't want him to really try to get it done in 24 hours. That would have required him to make calls before being in office. That would have been wrong.

That saying something like what Trump said falsely "For the benefit of winning the election" has no importance?

Correct. Trump's exaggerated words, that everyone knew was very unlikely, and likely very exaggerated, was of on importance.

I didn't pay it much mind at the time. Did you?

That lies and/or excessive statements are permitted?

Lies and excessive statements are and have been for all of my life, part of the political process.



I ask you again, which are you hoping for?


More war so you can score political points at the cost of thousands of lives,


or peace even if it means that Trump gets a win?

 

[krichton]

The offer of a ceasefire is on the table. He bullied zelenski into agreeing. The weapons are flowing to put pressure on Putin.

Trump has done his part. Now, Putin has to come to terms with his losing and cut a face saving deal.

Ok, so what you're saying now is, we're entirely back to square one and nothing has been accomplished, other than giving Putin opportunities to seize back terrority in kursk while the US put a freeze on intelligence and weapons. Awesome. Putin thanks his asset in America for the help. In the meantime, Trump looks like a complete fool.

 

[Correll]

Ok, so what you're saying now is, we're entirely back to square one and nothing has been accomplished, other than giving Putin opportunities to seize back terrority in kursk while the US put a freeze on intelligence and weapons. Awesome. Putin thanks his asset in America for the help. In the meantime, Trump looks like a complete fool.

Square one is what you wanted.

So, why you bitching?

 

[Luckyone]

Yes. Words are just words. What counts is intent and actions. Trump is making a good faith effort at peace. That is what I expected.

I didn't want him to really try to get it done in 24 hours. That would have required him to make calls before being in office. That would have been wrong.




Correct. Trump's exaggerated words, that everyone knew was very unlikely, and likely very exaggerated, was of on importance.

I didn't pay it much mind at the time. Did you?





Lies and excessive statements are and have been for all of my life, part of the political process.



I ask you again, which are you hoping for?


More war so you can score political points at the cost of thousands of lives,


or peace even if it means that Trump gets a win?

So after reading all your explanations, why were you criticizing the left for doing/using the same thing? Would that be hypocrisy?

 

[krichton]

Yes. Words are just words. What counts is intent and actions. Trump is making a good faith effort at peace. That is what I expected.

I didn't want him to really try to get it done in 24 hours. That would have required him to make calls before being in office. That would have been wrong.




Correct. Trump's exaggerated words, that everyone knew was very unlikely, and likely very exaggerated, was of on importance.

I didn't pay it much mind at the time. Did you?





Lies and excessive statements are and have been for all of my life, part of the political process.



I ask you again, which are you hoping for?


More war so you can score political points at the cost of thousands of lives,


or peace even if it means that Trump gets a win?

Why can't you simply admit he lied for votes?

Trump is trying to make good on his promise so he can pump himself up more. No other reason. But now he just looks like a complete fool because everyone and their mother knew there was no way that Putin would accept any concessions. Only he did because he was under some weird impression that Putin liked him enough to want to concede, LMAOOOOOOOO.

 

[Correll]

So after reading all your explanations, why were you criticizing the left for doing/using the same thing? Would that be hypocrisy?

What criticism of the left are you talking about?

 

[krichton]

Square one is what you wanted.

So, why you bitching?

Someone is mad their dear leader couldn't keep his promises and now looks like a fool. lol

 

[Luckyone]

What criticism of the left are you talking about?

You guys call the left liars, manipulators and using that to get their way, don't you?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

More uttern nonsense.

Clinton was right.
Trump is Putin's puppet.

So is his cult.

Hegseth orders suspension of Pentagon's offensive ...​

AP News
https://apnews.com › article › cyber-command-russia-p...
Mar 3, 2025 — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has paused offensive cyberoperations against Russia by US Cyber Command, rolling back some efforts contend with a key adversary even as national security experts call for the U.S. to expand those capabilities.

 

[Nostra]

Here it is clear as a bell



Trump repeatedly said that he could end the Russian/Ukrainian war in 24 hours.

Now and after 1304 hours of failure, he says this:


Can anyone believe what Trump says and promises?

OP is a complete idiot.

 

[Mac1958]

but, but, but Trump said he could get this all done in 24 hours and it's 1330 hours and no deal. How could Trump PROMISE that and FAIL? Isn't he the best of the best. I mean, he says he knows more than anyone and that "he can do it alone! Why isn't what he said happening?

And on top of that, the word "peace", as pushed by Trump, could mean different things.

Putin could take over all of Ukraine and put the clamps down, and there would be "peace". It's "peaceful" in North Korea.

It's like the "Make America Great Again" slogan. Oh, what do they mean by "great"? Chaos?

They have their own dictionary, their own definitions. So "peace" is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Correll]

Why can't you simply admit he lied for votes?

Becasue I don't think he really intended that claim to be taken literally.

I didn't take it that way. I know of no one that claims to have taken it literally.

Did you take it literally?

Trump is trying to make good on his promise so he can pump himself up more. No other reason.

That's dumb. You aren't a mind reader. His stated motive of wanting to see an end to the dying is completely valid adn believable.

But now he just looks like a complete fool because everyone and their mother knew there was no way that Putin would accept any concessions

It is actually completely foolish to think that Putin would NOT accept concessions.

it shows a child like ignorance of history and how wars happen.

And that child, is one of the dumber children.

. Only he did because he was under some weird impression that Putin liked him enough to want to concede, LMAOOOOOOOO.

It has nothing to do with "liking him", it has to do with the fact that the war is a meatgrinder and russia is bleeding to death.

 

[Correll]

Someone is mad their dear leader couldn't keep his promises and now looks like a fool. lol

I'm not sure what gave you that idea.

i am fine with the way things are going. I think that putin will come to terms in relatively short order.

 

[Correll]

Clinton was right.
Trump is Putin's puppet.

So is his cult.

Hegseth orders suspension of Pentagon's offensive ...​

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AP News
https://apnews.com › article › cyber-command-russia-p...
Mar 3, 2025 — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has paused offensive cyberoperations against Russia by US Cyber Command, rolling back some efforts contend with a key adversary even as national security experts call for the U.S. to expand those capabilities.

You're spouting complete nonsense.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You're spouting complete nonsense.

THAT would be the orange liar.
And you make excuses, just like your dear leader.

 

[Contumacious]

Here it is clear as a bell



Trump repeatedly said that he could end the Russian/Ukrainian war in 24 hours.

Now and after 1304 hours of failure, he says this:


Can anyone believe what Trump says and promises?

Renown Schizophrenic UNLuckyone aka Lakota ,who believes that the Cackle Queen is a demigod, has failed or refused to

calculate

1- the time 15,000,000 illegals have remained in our country

2- how long will it ttake the Socialist Demon Eats to abandon their Green New Hoax

3- how long will it take the Socialist Demon Rats to abandon their Marxist Platform

 

[Correll]

THAT would be the orange liar.
And you make excuses, just like your dear leader.

I've made no excuses. I want peace. Harris wanted endless war.


Trump is trying, so I'm good with that. The ball is in putin's court at this point.

 

[CowboyTed]

GROW UP you fucking BABY. Trump is at least making progress in ending this retarded war that Biden ENABLED.

Not really...

Trump is just putting in an unstable peace which Russia will break if we are going on form.

Russia stays, sanctions stay too...

 

[blackhawk]