208 Republicans just voted to block immigrants who served in the US military from becoming Americans

[Thinker101]

Correction : Criminal, a person who's been convicted of a crime.

Get a fricken clue.
criminal.

 

[Stann]

All vaccines are mandated in the military, dope.

When I was in the Air Force I got put on an emergency deployment unit which had to go anywhere in the world within 24 hours. I got my shots for everything in the world. Eight shots in each arm for two or three days. I think there was about 40 all together. And these people are complaining about one shot. Totally ridiculous.

 

[Stann]

Get a fricken clue.
criminal.

Innocent until proven guilty. Or perhaps you never heard of that, get a fucken clue.

 

[blackhawk]

also in the bill

Among other things, the bill also

• redefines for immigration purposes the term conviction to exclude convictions that have been expunged or vacated,
• requires the Department of State to implement a strategy to advance reforms in Central America and address key factors contributing to migration from the region to the United States,
• requires the State Department to establish refugee processing centers in Central America,
• requires Customs and Border Patrol sectors and stations to have a certain number of employees with certain qualifications such as paramedic training,
• generally prohibits religious discrimination in granting or denying immigration benefits, and
• establishes grant programs for providing training and services to immigrants.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1177

As the late great Paul Harvey used to say now for the rest of the story.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

When I was in the Air Force I got put on an emergency deployment unit which had to go anywhere in the world within 24 hours. I got my shots for everything in the world. Eight shots in each arm for two or three days. I think there was about 40 all together. And these people are complaining about one shot. Totally ridiculous.

That’s my experience as well when Desert Shield kicked off. Went down a long line receiving doses in each arm. Some in the air guns and some needles. Felt like I got hit by a truck for several days. I was like 60 days from ETS then was involuntarily extended for a year.

 

[Stann]

As the late great Paul Harvey used to say now for the rest of the story.

Sounds like very good improvements.

 

[Stann]

That’s my experience as well when Desert Shield kicked off. Went down a long line receiving doses in each arm. Some in the air guns and some needles. Felt like I got hit by a truck for several days. I was like 60 days from ETS then was involuntarily extended for a year.

Mine were all air guns, delivering eight shots at a time. My arms are sore for days.

 

[Stann]

That’s my experience as well when Desert Shield kicked off. Went down a long line receiving doses in each arm. Some in the air guns and some needles. Felt like I got hit by a truck for several days. I was like 60 days from ETS then was involuntarily extended for a year.

Ironically for me, I never went anywhere. It was at the end of the Vietnam war and they were downsizing. I was offered an early out and took it.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Mine were all air guns, delivering eight shots at a time. My arms are sore for days.

Those air guns are brutal.

 

[JGalt]

All vaccines are mandated in the military, dope.

Try to keep up to snuff, jerkoff.

Federal judge temporarily halts Air Force’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate

 

[Stann]

Those air guns are brutal.

One guy in line fainted while he was getting the shots and it slit open his arm as he went down. I made sure I didn't even flinch after I saw that.

 

[Dragonlady]

Looks like another Democrat ploy to make Republicans look bad.
All we need is a bunch of people trying to join the military as a shortcut to citizenry.

Republicans are quite capable of making themselves look bad. They do it every time they vote against the American people's best interests.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Try to keep up to snuff, jerkoff.

Federal judge temporarily halts Air Force’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate

Doesn’t change what I posted.
It just say a judge halted what was mandated. All other vaccines are still mandated.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

One guy in line fainted while he was getting the shots and it slit open his arm as he went down. I made sure I didn't even flinch after I saw that.

Oof. There’s always a few who fall out.

 

[JGalt]

Doesn’t change what I posted.
It just say a judge halted what was mandated. All other vaccines are still mandated.

By "vaccine mandate" I was referring to the COVID vaccine.

 

[blackhawk]

Sounds like very good improvements.

Sounds like a lot of stuff I have heard before the Central America part wasn't that part of what the VP was suppossed to be working for the past two years as the border czar? Maybe this time will be different but I'm not holding out much hope for that.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Looks like another Democrat ploy to make Republicans look bad.
All we need is a bunch of people trying to join the military as a shortcut to citizenry.

If they serve why not?

It seem they are more willing to die for our nation than our natural born!

 

[ABikerSailor]

I'm guessing that quite a few posters on here who are bitching about "illegal immigrants" joining the US Military have never served, or even applied for enlistment. I know that when I joined back in 1982, there was a whole butt ton of paperwork that I had to fill out so that the military could properly vet me to make sure I was eligible. And, I heard about a couple of people being kicked out while in boot camp because they hadn't fully disclosed everything on their enlistment paperwork. So, know that if you are allowed to enlist in the military, you WILL be checked out a bit to make sure you're eligible to serve.

I also used to buy into the bullshit statement of "if you can't find a job, just go ahead and join the military". Up until I served a tour at a MEPS as the head person in charge of the Navy there, I used to think that was true. But, no, it's not. Out of ALL the 18-35 year old people in the US today, only about 30 percent of them are eligible for enlistment. Many are disqualified because of test scores (not high enough, and because of the current enlistment drought, test scores are being lowered to allow more people in), civil involvement (too many incidents), or physical problems (asthma, flat feet, etc.). Only about 1 percent of the US population actually decides to enlist and makes it through boot camp and serves.

If a person is here illegally, or has civil conviction problems, trust me, the military WILL find out before that person completes boot camp, and they will be given an ELS (Entry Level Separation). If a person is illegal, they will more than likely be deported, if they enlisted under false pretenses (not disclosing everything) there may be civil penalties to pay. But the person WILL be vetted to make sure they are suitable for service.

And.............if a person is able to qualify for enlistment and allowed to serve, as well as serves honorably for a specified amount of time, they can become US citizens. I served with a dude who was a teacher from Mexico who enlisted (and yes, he had a green card), served 6 years and became eligible to become a US citizen. Was the proudest day of his life, and all the guys in the shop went to his ceremony, because we knew how hard he'd worked for it. Me personally? After seeing that, I personally thought that if a person was able to enlist, serve a full enlistment (4 years), they should automatically be made a citizen if they came here from other countries. I know that there are a LOT of Philippine people in this country who became citizens via the military. If a person is willing to put their ass on the line for this country and can successfully serve for a full enlistment, why not? There are lots of natural born citizens in this county who would never consider enlistment, as they don't like the hours, the fact that they will deploy, and possibly go to a war zone. As well as some consider it "beneath" them or the pay isn't good enough.

If a person can pass all the screenings and is determined eligible, and completes a full enlistment honorably, they would be excellent citizens of this country, as they know what it means to sacrifice for this nation. Sadly, many citizens of this country have no idea what that actually means or entails.

Me? I did over 20 years. Initially, I enlisted because I wanted a job, to be able to travel, and for patriotism. After serving a couple of enlistments, decided that the job wasn't too bad, and really enjoyed most of the places that the Navy took me. Now that I'm retired? I like the pension and health care that I will receive for the rest of my life, as well as the cachet that goes along with being able to call myself a retired Sailor.

 

[Stann]

Sounds like a lot of stuff I have heard before the Central America part wasn't that part of what the VP was suppossed to be working for the past two years as the border czar? Maybe this time will be different but I'm not holding out much hope for that.

Immigration has been a problem for at least 20 years. Obviously what we had in place was not working. This sounds like many progressive steps to undo the crisis at the border. When trump was President he reduced legal immigration and basically shut down the immigration courts by not funding them. That made matters worse, creating a huge backlog in immigration and the numbers greatly increased at the border. He didn't propose any real solutions for the situation. At least now we have a president that's trying to deal with the situation.

 

[blackhawk]

Immigration has been a problem for at least 20 years. Obviously what we had in place was not working. This sounds like many progressive steps to undo the crisis at the border. When trump was President he reduced legal immigration and basically shut down the immigration courts by not funding them. That made matters worse, creating a huge backlog in immigration and the numbers greatly increased at the border. He didn't propose any real solutions for the situation. At least now we have a president that's trying to deal with the situation.

We have a President who has continually said the border is secure it’s pretty hard to deal with a problem when you won’t even acknowledged the problem exist.