2025 Deficit comes in at 1.97 Trillion. This Is Way Out of Hand

Businesses can't do that--they are paying tariffs.
You clamed we the people pay the tariffs not businesses.

The Tariffs are againt the goods that get made on China. You lnow, stuff we used to make in the USA.

The democrats and rinos literally disnantked are factories and shipped the equipment to china.

We want those jobs back to payback the debt democrats and rinos createf
 
There is no plan that I am aware of (that is a real plan).

We are totally screwed when it comes to the deficit, given that we are now paying so much in interest.

The projections for the debt make me want to jump off a cliff (of course I'll be taking Dante and other left wing idiots with me 😈

If it were up to me.

1. Raise medicare tax to match spending.
2. Means test the rich with regards to S.S. benefits
3. Stop COLA on SS until it is balanced out.

That would be year one.
1. Raising taxes is a death knell for politicians.
2. They pay into SS based on their income. They should at least get back what they put in, and then where are you? Back at square one. Why do you want to punish success? Why not just raise the income tax to 100% for anyone making $100,000 a year?
3. You want people like me to starve because we can't keep up with inflation? Very nice of you.
 
You clamed we the people pay the tariffs not businesses.
The costs are passed on. However only rarely does any business sell 100% of it's inventory so tariffs are paid on items that never sell (probably because the price was raised in many cases).
The Tariffs are againt the goods that get made on China. You lnow, stuff we used to make in the USA.

The democrats and rinos literally disnantked are factories and shipped the equipment to china.

We want those jobs back to payback the debt democrats and rinos createf
Try again, in English.
 
ID is facing an unconstitutional debt this year and Brad Little has instructed ALL departments except education to cut their budgets by 3%. It is said that it will satisfy the deficit. If we did that on a federal level, it would be a start. DOGE was a move in the right direction but more needs to be done. Positive moves toward reducing the debt may result from these companies that are returning to the US and new businesses that are locating here will definitely help with more taxpayers as well.
While I would hope that this would help.....we've got a huge problem.

GWB, the biggest jerkwad of a president ever, started the ball rolling and the 2008 collapse and COVID pulled a lot of resources we didn't have so we borrowed.

Now we are paying 1 trillion + in interest. 1 Trillion....OMGosh.

It's bad. Really bad.

1.97 trillion in fiscal 2025.

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1. Raising taxes is a death knell for politicians.
In theory. It might be interesting to see one of them actually start to show a little panic with regards to this and suggest we need to raise taxes. You do know that the democrats will have no problem and if the trust fund is headed for insolvency, it means a benefit cut. If you thought a tax hike was bad.......

2. They pay into SS based on their income. They should at least get back what they put in, and then where are you? Back at square one. Why do you want to punish success? Why not just raise the income tax to 100% for anyone making $100,000 a year?
They pay to the cap. What they get back isn't the issue. They don't need it. Believe me, I hate the idea. But something has to give. We've made to many promises thanks to FDR and LBJ. Punish success? I am afraid you don't understand that they would not miss this at all. My mother, a travel agent, had a client who said he used his S.S. to pay for his green fees. He was very wealthy. Either he starts giving up more or people start getting less. It's pretty simple. That does not mean we won't be seeing the payroll taxes go up either.

100,000 a year isn't a lot of money. And no, I don't want to raise federal income tax by that much. But we have obligated ourselves to those on S.S. and for decades to come. Something has to give.

3. You want people like me to starve because we can't keep up with inflation? Very nice of you.
No, I don't want you to starve. i suspect that COLA reductions would be regressive in nature. That or we simply take the wealthy off of the S.S. rolls. I know it sounds harsh and un-American. But this problem has been out there for years and NOBODY has taken it seriously. Don't forget that S.S. operates within the total federal budget which can't keep borrowing like it currently is.
 
Well.....this is great news.

The 2025 deficit was 1.97 trillion. Total revenue was 4.69 trillion which means our deficit was 42% of total revenue and 29.5% of total spending.

I don't have an actual figure, but you can count on 1 trillion of spending on debt servicing alone. 1 FREAKING TRILLION.

In 2024 the deficit was 1.83 trillion.

AND NOBODY CARES (in government).

This is beyond reprehensible.


Total debt is 37.3 trillion. We'll be over 40 before Trump leaves.

We are selling our kids down the river.
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Under the Joey B regime from January 2021 to January 2025, he approved approximately $4.7 trillion in new ten-year debt, with significant contributions from various legislative actions. The debt increased by about $2.1 trillion each year due to the American Rescue Plan and other major spending initiatives.
 
so are we a bankrupt nation?
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Yes. People hated history class, but it was actually very useful. America was at war with the money trust since its inception up until the creation of the Federal Reserve. He who controls the money controls the nation. Today America is essentially a debt slave to the money trust. The most important thing a government must do is properly manage the money supply and America outsourced it to the very people who should never be involved with its management, the money trust. Unfortunately there is no easy way out of this problem. And it's not just America, countries all over the world are seriously in debt. But to who? People were led to believe that we owe that money to ourselves so this is not a problem. The truth is, we owe the debt to the money trust.
 
There is no plan that I am aware of (that is a real plan).
The BBB was a good start. It cut $1.5T off Biden's last budget. Now the democrats want to put it back.
We'll see how that shakes out.
We are totally screwed when it comes to the deficit, given that we are now paying so much in interest.
The projections for the debt make me want to jump off a cliff (of course I'll be taking Dante and other left wing idiots with me 😈
If it were up to me.

1. Raise Medicare tax to match spending.
2. Means test the rich with regards to S.S. benefits
All you remove the cap, raising the retirement ages would help too.
3. Stop COLA on SS until it is balanced out.
All you need is to remove the cap.
That would be year one.
You also need to look at cutting Welfare, Medicaid, and Defense. We spend more on defense than the next 10 militaries combined.
We need a new law to require a balanced budget, so that tariff revenue can start paying off the debt.
As the Fed lowers interest rates 1%, that would lower that $1T in interest by about $$300b.
 
1. Raising taxes is a death knell for politicians.
Trump is okay taking the top rate from 37% to 40%.
2. They pay into SS based on their income. They should at least get back what they put in, and then where are you? Back at square one. Why do you want to punish success? Why not just raise the income tax to 100% for anyone making $100,000 a year?
Raising the cap is not unfair to the wealthy. Neither is means testing SS, if they have adequate income in retirement. Raising the retirement ages helps, since people are living longer. Also, eliminate the capital gains tax break, income is income.
3. You want people like me to starve because we can't keep up with inflation? Very nice of you.
Agreed, COLAs need to stay. Welfare and Medicaid need to be cut.
 
You obviously don't understand the relationship between tariffs and creating jobs.
The federal government was once funded partly by tariffs and there was no federal income tax. As we examine all the problems in America today stemming from globalization, we avoided tariffs from the beginning and allowed the economy to be hollowed out for cheap imports. In retrospect, the tariffs today are actually long overdue and probably not going to be able to fix the damage of the last 30 some years.
 
Well.....this is great news.

The 2025 deficit was 1.97 trillion. Total revenue was 4.69 trillion which means our deficit was 42% of total revenue and 29.5% of total spending.

I don't have an actual figure, but you can count on 1 trillion of spending on debt servicing alone. 1 FREAKING TRILLION.

In 2024 the deficit was 1.83 trillion.

AND NOBODY CARES (in government).

This is beyond reprehensible.


Total debt is 37.3 trillion. We'll be over 40 before Trump leaves.

We are selling our kids down the river.
It was, truly, a Big Beautiful Bill. Indefinite debt.
 
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As long as those in power have money and own real estate, they do not care.

The global elite want a ruling class and serfdom.

Clinton and Gingrich worked together for a balanced budget.

These days, the left would call Clinton a NAZI.
 
Well.....this is great news.

The 2025 deficit was 1.97 trillion. Total revenue was 4.69 trillion which means our deficit was 42% of total revenue and 29.5% of total spending.

I don't have an actual figure, but you can count on 1 trillion of spending on debt servicing alone. 1 FREAKING TRILLION.

In 2024 the deficit was 1.83 trillion.

AND NOBODY CARES (in government).

This is beyond reprehensible.


Total debt is 37.3 trillion. We'll be over 40 before Trump leaves.

We are selling our kids down the river.
 

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